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07-20-2018 , 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan
well it was everybodys country at some point

but last controlled by englaND, given to the UN, and then the palestinians rejected the partition plan and never acknowledged any of it

and then lost land to israel in wars they started

shrug
Yeah dawg, this is called colonizing. What you just described is stealing.
07-20-2018 , 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Birdman10687
Because it is their home? Or they do not have the means or opportunity to relocate? Is your argument actually that because Muslims live in Israel, then Israel must not be anti-Palestinian?
Do you condemn the 15 arab countries that forced every single Jew to leave their home?
07-20-2018 , 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan
Do you condemn the 15 arab countries that forced every single Jew to leave their home?
Tell me what you are referring to.
07-20-2018 , 10:50 PM
Israel is no angel in all of it. They feel they were mistreated for so long that theyare entitled ti be unfair i get that

And when someone like yitzach rabin tries to find solutions onhow to coexist, he gets murdered. By a right wing jew.

Again my biggest issue is that the world focuses on israel and ignores the war crimes of the arabs in the region. Right nowpop alestinians are burning down forests in israel with kites from Gaza. But israels retaliation is the only condemnation in the un

Before 67 nobody was able to pray in the old city besides musl ilms

Now muslims Christians and jews all do

Israel controls Jerusalem, the dome of the rock sits on the exact site where the 1st and 2nd jewish temple were destroyed

And muslims pray freely there

The muslim quarter in old city is twice the size of the jewish quarter

And in that area of Jerusalem, everybody gets along

And it's awesome
07-20-2018 , 11:25 PM
On another note, this is scary

Nazis and anti-Semites slip through GOP primaries, causing headaches for party

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018...for-party.html
07-21-2018 , 12:12 AM
Is it even scarier that you see it as "slipping through" rather than "being ushered in by"?

The writing has been on the wall for the past two years.
07-21-2018 , 12:14 AM
Slighted - "massacres protesters"?
07-21-2018 , 12:20 AM
John Fitzgerald, whose campaign website offers $3,000 to anyone who can prove the "Holocaust narrative", received 24.8% of the vote in his California district's open primary...
07-21-2018 , 12:36 AM
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Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan
WOW an anti-zionist article from an anti-zionist newspaper.

im shocked
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Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan
07-21-2018 , 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by iamnotawerewolf
I posted about someone who was anti Zionist for years until he did the research of the jewish exodus from the arab nations
07-21-2018 , 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by iamnotawerewolf
John Fitzgerald, whose campaign website offers $3,000 to anyone who can prove the "Holocaust narrative", received 24.8% of the vote in his California district's open primary...
And remember when there were people (admittedly few, most agreed) that mocked me over the 14 words DHS headline?
07-21-2018 , 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan
Israel is no angel in all of it. They feel they were mistreated for so long that theyare entitled ti be unfair i get that

And when someone like yitzach rabin tries to find solutions onhow to coexist, he gets murdered. By a right wing jew.

Again my biggest issue is that the world focuses on israel and ignores the war crimes of the arabs in the region. Right nowpop alestinians are burning down forests in israel with kites from Gaza. But israels retaliation is the only condemnation in the un

Before 67 nobody was able to pray in the old city besides musl ilms

Now muslims Christians and jews all do

Israel controls Jerusalem, the dome of the rock sits on the exact site where the 1st and 2nd jewish temple were destroyed

And muslims pray freely there

The muslim quarter in old city is twice the size of the jewish quarter

And in that area of Jerusalem, everybody gets along

And it's awesome
Mets the biggest problem I feel you have in understanding Israel is that you treat the situation as being in a vacuum with no historical context. The reason Israeli actions are treated with more criticism (ignoring for a second that what Israel does to Palestinians is like 100x worse than what Palestinians do to Israel) is because Israel is a colonial project full of settlers. It was a common tactic during the Armenian genocide to use Armenian resistance as evidence that the Turks were justified in massacring them. You are doing the same thing here. Palestinians who are resisting being colonized by Europeans is not justification for further oppression. The land does not belong to Israel. If you choose to colonize a region no one is going to feel sorry for you if the people living there resist you. However, people are going to criticize the settlers for ethnic cleansing, apartheid, murder, etc.
07-21-2018 , 03:21 PM
The jews that are colonized were forced out of muslim countries but you refuse to consider that

The jews did not build settlementson Gaza or ther west bank until being attacked from people trying to take their land from 48 to 67

And I'm sure you will say it wasn't their land regardless of the 31 to 13 UN vote in 47. But it was

And if you want to get technical there is archeological evidence that it was their land up until the 7th century bce as well as several times later.

I am aware that the current palestenians are descendants of the ancient philistines and were there back them too

You seem to equate israel with the us colonization but freely live here and enjoy the fruits of the land, why is that?
07-22-2018 , 09:28 AM













Flabbergasted
07-22-2018 , 09:41 AM
Remember when it was said in the thread that any talks with NK were a good thing?
07-22-2018 , 01:29 PM
so were hillary and obama shocked that when they pushed the russia reset button that it didnt work?
07-22-2018 , 01:37 PM
if they dont keep their word we continue to sanction

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-n...-idUSKBN1KA2CO
07-22-2018 , 02:20 PM
I'd be far more concerned about Trump pissing off all of the US's traditional allies and trying to start an unbelievably stupid and self-destructive trade war tbh.

the fact that he's made no concrete progress with North Korea, like everyone else in the last 20 or so years, is about as positive a diplomatic result as you can hope for from him
07-22-2018 , 02:22 PM
obv anyone claiming that he has somehow solved the North Korea issue in a way that no other US president could through the onerous task of persuading North Korea to take part in a massive photo-op for the two countries' leaders is worth laughing at though
07-22-2018 , 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Bloobird
obv anyone claiming that he has somehow solved the North Korea issue in a way that no other US president could through the onerous task of persuading being persuaded by North Korea to take part in a massive photo-op for the two countries' leaders is worth laughing at though
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07-22-2018 , 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by kokiri
Flabbergasted
07-22-2018 , 07:26 PM
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Laura Rosenberger is director of the Alliance for Securing Democracy and a senior fellow at The German Marshall Fund of the United States (GMF). Before she joined GMF, she was a foreign policy advisor for Hillary for America, where she coordinated development of the campaign's national security policy, messaging, and strategy. Prior to that she served in a range of positions at the State Department...
lol
07-22-2018 , 07:27 PM
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The Alliance for Securing Democracy (ASD) is a bipartisan transatlantic national security advocacy group formed in July 2017 with the stated aim of countering efforts by Russia to undermine democratic institutions in the United States and Europe. The organization is chaired and run primarily by former senior United States intelligence and State Department officials.
sigh

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Glenn Greenwald wrote that the group represented an alliance between neoconservatives and establishment Democrats.
07-22-2018 , 07:29 PM
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The president of GMF is Karen Donfried, who joined in April 2014. Donfried was previously special assistant to President Barack Obama.
and it just keeps going

      
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