Same thing happened to me.
p.s.: Your post reminds me that "Andorra" by Max Frisch is an awesome piece of literature. I'll read it tomorrow

Wat?

haha

This. Learn Python.

Don't listen to this

curl + Python

+ easy to learn with good free resources. Make sure to go for Python 2.x though

clown, when are you gonna play ww again?

Monday, iirc.

this is good news for me and pog ifaik

Python's a religion, not a programming language.

Dustin - what you want isn't a simple "hey I'll learn to program and write this" thing, imo. Big project. Lots of time.

well, I could at least start by learning how to write something that can figure out my winrate and then move on from there with the more advanced stuff

if any pogger is interested - I'd be interesed in a simple programme that reads info from an email and extracts/sorts based on text. i expect it would be a very simple programme, but I don't know. I would also be needing noob advice on how to use such a programme.

(atm I revieve a list of every planning application that goes through my local council area by email, I want a programme that sifts these documents and translates them into letters I can send to people requesting an opportunity to tender for the job. I am currently doing this manually, each contract would be worth £250- £50,000. There are many criteria I use to select potential business)

I am unable to offer a fee, but would offer to give a % of profits earned from liasons resulting from their work.

pm me if anyone's interested in more info.

That's probably beyond the ability of a total beginner to plan and complete. You probably have to pay somebody to do it.

That's really not as much less work than you might think. Once you calculate rates for yourself, adding them for others isn't really much more work. It's writing the basic code for processing anybody's rates that counts.

This can be said about pretty much any programming language. And I think it doesn't apply to Python nearly as much as to other languages.
I've yet to meet a Python programmer that wasn't a "best tool for the job" kind of guy. Seriousely if I'd have to stereotype languages Python wouldn't even cross my mind.
Lisp, PHP or Cobol on the other hand...:P

so Chim, or anyone else who watches 24- what exactly does the CIP device do besides be an all-purpose magical terrorist weapon?

And with regards to the WW games. I'm cherry picking and just playing the best of the best.
The CYOA "franchise" is my personal favorite.

,..., Smalltalk, Scheme, and even (in this era especially) Fortran.

Hey, lay off FORTRAN. It's going to get me a Ph.D. someday.

I just got a Logitech Harmony One remote.. its incredible.

I have all my different rooms setup.. and can just hit "Watch DVD - bedroom" button and boom receiver on, tv on, dvd on (and playing), and all inputs correctly set.

It's so awesome.

I miss my Harmony remote. It crapped out last year, and I haven't got around to getting a new one

Yeah I just named a few. Scheme is a Lisp dialect though.
Smalltalk folks are actually pretty elitist from what I remember with their whole "see this is how OOP is supposed to work".
Fortran, well those are usually not even programmers. Because it's mainly used by math/physics folks they do sit a level above the Cobol users though :P
Oh and don't forget the company-war-of-ideology. C# (lol), Java (lol), Objective-C (lol).
Then there's stuff like Haskell which from my experience falls into the same "elitist" group as Smalltalk only with a very different language.
There's also folks that refuse to code in anything but C. They tend to be good programmers though.

The list goes on and on, prejudice is fun.

Are there really people that get all crazy about being cobol programmers? I assumed anybody still using that crap on a day-to-day basis just never bothered to learn anything after they graduated University (in 1976)

The below is just me commenting and in no way meant to influence the course of the conversation! Please talk about FORTRAN and Python and curls to your heart's content.

That said, the programming talk is making me nostalgic for the days of overshared toilet stories.

When my wife graduated in '92 and got her first job, her company still had and used some accounting programs that ran on COBOL.

I'm going to guess that would last all of one story before you're like, "More computer programming please!"

I had a great workout today 10 x 300 meters. The coach told me to start at 10-minute mile pace (1:50 per 300 meters) and bring it down. Well hell, at this point a 1:50 300 is sloooooooow. So by the third one I was already doing 1:35 splits. By the time I got to number 6, I was feeling it. But I kept cranking and my last three were 1:28, 1:26 and 1:16 (I went for it on the last one). Then I collapsed in a heap.

During the winter workouts, after a 10-minute cool-down walk (for me, everyone else jogs, they're all ridiculously fit) we do these "Reindeer Games" stretches and exercises. I freaking hate those things. We did some basketball-type drills with a low squat and lateral movement, and don't you know, I wind up tripping over my own damn feet and THUD! I was more embarrassed than hurt at the time (I was laughing my head off), but I got home and now my lower left leg is noticeably swollen and I had to take two Advil. Freaking figures.

for the superbowl, i made a bacon explosion. this was an experience i felt like i should share with POG. Warning: this is not for vegetarians or those who get squeamish about high fat foods.

Saturday: I go to the grocery store and grab 2 pounds of thick cut bacon and 2 of sausage. I went with a sweet italian sausage hoping that would cut against the overwhelming saltiness of this monster. There was another guy there grabbing the same thing. I asked him, "Bacon explosion?" he nodded and agreed. I think we shared a moment.

Sunday morning, time to start this monster.

First step is to take your bacon and lay out a nice lattice. The recipes say 5x5, but the bacon I had layed out at 6x6 so I went with it.



Next, you rub this with a bbq rub. I got a bit more here than I wanted, but there are like 5 other parts where you are supposed to add a bbq rub, so I just figured I'd cut back at one of those.



The next step is to lay down the sausage meat in a nice even layer going to all the edges.



I seem to have forgotten to take pictures of the next step. In this one you take all your remaining bacon and cook it to whatever consistency you like it. Then you crumble it all across the sausage. This should cover the whole thing. You then drizzle on your bbq sauce and add more of your bbq rub. I regret not having a picture, but such is life. You can see some cooked bacon at the back of the sausage picture.

After that, you start at an edge and roll up your sausage, but not the bacon lattice. Get as tight a roll as possible and squeeze out all air pockets. Once its done, seal up the seam and both ends to lock in all your bacon-y goodness.



Aftr this, you wrap your lattice around the sausage and place it on your baking tray with the seam on the underside. The wax paper here was because I was transporting this to another location for the superbowl. Also, you can add more bbq rub. I went pretty light.



Ideally you can put this into a smoker, which will give you some nice color. Lacking one, I had to cook mine in an oven. You want to cook it at 225 degrees, until the internal temperature is 165. This translates to about 1 hour per inch of thickness. It should come out looking like this:



When it comes out, take a pastry brush and paint it with a sugar based bbq sauce. You can use the same one as before but if its a vinegar based one it won't work here. It will create a nice, sweet glaze on your bacon explosion while you let it stand for a couple of minutes.



And it doesn't show up well in the last image, but if you got your rolling of the sausage right, you should get a nice swirl of crispy bacon through the middle as in this shot.



This beast pretty much put my entire superbowl party into a meat coma. It went from rowdy to dead in about 15 minutes after we started serving this. It is just as delicous as it looks and sounds.

In total it took about an hour of prep time and 2.5 hours of cook time.

I'm not sure my arteries can take eating another of these, but everyone has to try one at least once.

Reno - did you post that in OOT?

Pchippa would probably love it.