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12-08-2008 , 04:02 PM
What hurts more? Being turned down as a man, or a woman?

I say being turned down as a woman, but that is just me.

Maybe because men are thought to be less picky, or are suppose to be generally more attracted to females as a whole....but I guess this is ridiculous.

I suppose that men go for mainly "looks" so its a yes/no decision right away, whereas women look for the "whole package" and are more responsive once we get to know you......
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12-08-2008 , 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by clowntable
How is "shier" not an odd word
lol, ah what a clown
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12-08-2008 , 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by OrangeRake
I suppose that men go for mainly "looks" so its a yes/no decision right away, whereas women look for the "whole package" and are more responsive once we get to know you......
This is the dumbest,most unfair, and most untrue post I have ever seen in my life.
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12-08-2008 , 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark_K
Way to shatter Buckies dreams. I already envision him putting your Christmas gift back in it's Walmart bag.... A tear in his eye, a heart crushed.

HAHAHHAHAHAHA

HAHAHAHAHHAA

HAHAHAA

sorry...but this was pure gold.
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12-08-2008 , 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by OrangeRake
What hurts more? Being turned down as a man, or a woman?

I say being turned down as a woman, but that is just me.

Maybe because men are thought to be less picky, or are suppose to be generally more attracted to females as a whole....but I guess this is ridiculous.

I suppose that men go for mainly "looks" so its a yes/no decision right away, whereas women look for the "whole package" and are more responsive once we get to know you......
This depends a lot on what you were turned down for. Some quick action, meh I think men just move on.
Something serious, meh sucks for both :P
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12-08-2008 , 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by PyramidScheme
This is the dumbest,most unfair, and most untrue post I have ever seen in my life.
OK then clearly it's true.....my guy friends are the most shallow and unfair men on the planet.

No wonder I have little to no self esteem. You should hear the crap they say about women, dating, women's bodies, ect.
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12-08-2008 , 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by VoraciousReader
Let me put it this way. I have received many more messages asking me out via pm at 2p2 than you claim to have asked out women over the internet entirely.
ok, I have to know... are you counting me as one of them? lol
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12-08-2008 , 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by OrangeRake
What hurts more? Being turned down as a man, or a woman?

I say being turned down as a woman, but that is just me.

Maybe because men are thought to be less picky, or are suppose to be generally more attracted to females as a whole....but I guess this is ridiculous.

I suppose that men go for mainly "looks" so its a yes/no decision right away, whereas women look for the "whole package" and are more responsive once we get to know you......

Well, aside from the fact it would take someone with a complex medical history to answer this, I would think that each gender will answer in their own favor.
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12-08-2008 , 04:06 PM
So i guess athletes with D averages got more dates than me in high school because they were the whole package?
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12-08-2008 , 04:06 PM
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I suppose that men go for mainly "looks" so its a yes/no decision right away, whereas women look for the "whole package" and are more responsive once we get to know you
Knew it!
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12-08-2008 , 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by soah
ok, I have to know... are you counting me as one of them? lol
wat? oh, because of the "let's meet" thing? hahahaha no.
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12-08-2008 , 04:09 PM
My room mate is 26, 5'8, but has a good career, condo, ect.

He ONLY likes girls that look like models, who are 22 or younger, who weigh under 120 lbs, who have perfect bodies, are cute, fun, ect.

Therefore, I feel like an ogre and a beast (not to mention a grandmother).

My other friend is 25, makes CANS, and again, dates like 10 women at once.

Likes unreasonably attractive women, who are super intelligent, and never ever ever wants to get serious.

Clearly, both have turned me down.

Anyway, maybe I need new friends?
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12-08-2008 , 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by PyramidScheme
So i guess athletes with D averages got more dates than me in high school because they were the whole package?
In high school, guys are drawn to looks, girls are drawn to status. I thought everybody knew this?
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12-08-2008 , 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by OrangeRake
OK then clearly it's true.....my guy friends are the most shallow and unfair men on the planet.

No wonder I have little to no self esteem. You should hear the crap they say about women, dating, women's bodies, ect.
Then why are they your friends. At leats shallow men are honest about being shallow. Every god damn woman with a horrible/attractive boyfriend/husband say theyre with them because they love them/ theyre really nice inside, christ give me a break, i know this is an unpopular opinion but women are way way more shallow then men from my experience.
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12-08-2008 , 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by OrangeRake
What hurts more? Being turned down as a man, or a woman?

I say being turned down as a woman, but that is just me.

Maybe because men are thought to be less picky, or are suppose to be generally more attracted to females as a whole....but I guess this is ridiculous.

I suppose that men go for mainly "looks" so its a yes/no decision right away, whereas women look for the "whole package" and are more responsive once we get to know you......
Neither, imo. It's entirely personality dependent. Certain people take rejection harder than others. Women are probably more sensitive than men in this (as everything), but that might only be because the average man has more experience with rejection than the average woman.
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12-08-2008 , 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by VoraciousReader
In life, guys are drawn to looks, girls are drawn to status. I thought everybody knew this?

fyp.
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12-08-2008 , 04:12 PM
Any conversation about men/women being more/less anything than the other is totally ******ed, since it's entirely based on the individual, and everybody can come up with anecdotal evidence for either side.
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12-08-2008 , 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by PyramidScheme
Then why are they your friends. At leats shallow men are honest about being shallow. Every god damn woman with a horrible/attractive boyfriend/husband say theyre with them because they love them/ theyre really nice inside, christ give me a break, i know this is an unpopular opinion but women are way way more shallow then men from my experience.
See I when I say this, I really mean it.

I have never dated what most women refer to as good looking.
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12-08-2008 , 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by PyramidScheme
fyp.
ooops.
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12-08-2008 , 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by OrangeRake
My room mate is 26, 5'8, but has a good career, condo, ect.

He ONLY likes girls that look like models, who are 22 or younger, who weigh under 120 lbs, who have perfect bodies, are cute, fun, ect.

Therefore, I feel like an ogre and a beast (not to mention a grandmother).

My other friend is 25, makes CANS, and again, dates like 10 women at once.

Likes unreasonably attractive women, who are super intelligent, and never ever ever wants to get serious.

Clearly, both have turned me down.

Anyway, maybe I need new friends?

lol at these being the people you ask out, especially the first one. Who is the shallow one???
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12-08-2008 , 04:17 PM
Well I kinda fooled around with the second one the weekened I met him.....and he shot me down in the following weeks.

We are now part of the same "group" of friends....so I get to listen to their dating stories, and how they talk about the women they date, and who makes the cut and why.....it's quite disturbing to see what they refer to as "fat"....and how picky they actually are about a woman's body. No wonder I am soo freaking obsessed with the gym!

The other guy I never dated.....or never tried to date. He is just my room mate....but again, incredibly shallow when it comes to women. He gets screwed over left right and centre however, because attractive girls turn out to be huge bitches and I have to pick up the pieces.
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12-08-2008 , 04:19 PM
So ya, I would never ever want to date these men, but when that is all I listen to, I just start to assume that all men think/feel/talk this way about women, and therefore it makes me feel really unattractive and really self conscious about myself.

If you lived with a friend, who was constantly talking about men half your size being fat, or men younger then you as being too old, wouldn't it eventually start making you feel inadequate?
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12-08-2008 , 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by OrangeRake
So ya, I would never ever want to date these men, but when that is all I listen to, I just start to assume that all men think/feel/talk this way about women, and therefore it makes me feel really unattractive and really self conscious about myself.

If you lived with a friend, who was constantly talking about men half your size being fat, or men younger then you as being too old, wouldn't it eventually start making you feel inadequate?
Women at least THINK about other men in these terms, just in their minds. Men talk about it aloud in front of women because they are idiots, and we live in a socially male dominated society where its considered acceptable for men to think about women in these terms, therefor they dont fear saying it. For a woman to speak about a man like this especially in front of other men would be considered slutty/shallow/unladylike, which is why women dont do it.

IMO you should feel fortunate that men reveal their true colors so openly in front of you, that way you can weed out who youd never/shouldn't date fairly quickly.

You are an attractive young woman, who doesn't need to feel old or too fat. Yes eventually you will get old, but people who refuse to date close to their own age are childish, don't desrve youre time. If someone feels you are not attractive enough to date THEY are the *******, don't let it bother you, and try and actually concentrate on males with more broad interests, (they exist, women ignore them)
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12-08-2008 , 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by OrangeRake
I went on a shopping spree in Ann Arbor....
Are you local (to Ann Arbor) OR?
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12-08-2008 , 04:27 PM
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Well I kinda fooled around with the second one the weekened I met him.....and he shot me down in the following weeks.

We are now part of the same "group" of friends....so I get to listen to their dating stories, and how they talk about the women they date, and who makes the cut and why.....it's quite disturbing to see what they refer to as "fat"....and how picky they actually are about a woman's body. No wonder I am soo freaking obsessed with the gym!

The other guy I never dated.....or never tried to date. He is just my room mate....but again, incredibly shallow when it comes to women. He gets screwed over left right and centre however, because attractive girls turn out to be huge bitches and I have to pick up the pieces.
never believe anything men tell their friends. See questionaire point above

Also, it's like getting rejected in an interview, they say 'not enough experience', they mean 'didn't wow us enough, and umm, *makes up a reason*' - man says 'didn't put out/did put out/ not obviously dirty enough/obviously really dirty/boring/w-e' means 'didn't wow me, and um, ...'
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