i just brought the politics thread up to 4 stars!

Official POG 24 Debate Thread?

should probably go in politics, 24 is a primary authoritarian meme propogation venue

zomg just ate fish and chips. I feel like I am going to die. horrible food. bleh.

I had a delicious bbq'd chicken breast and sauteed swiss chard

I used to love fish and chips, but it's definitely on the list of food I don't miss

I've been so good lately and thought that would be a good fun refeed. I was wrong. I'm sticking with a pint of Cherry Garcia as my cheat meal from now on.

I had a Philly Cheese Steak sandwich tonight to compare it to the one I had in Philadelphia on Sunday and the one I had in Philly was 3 times better than the one I had tonight in Indianapolis.

So I guess its true, some things are better where they are suppose to be.

Val,

The verb 'echar'....

It seems to have about a hundred uses, all of them covered by different verbs

Used in Chile ever?

echar is soooo used in Chile, i know just 2 uses though.

Dustin,

Can you teach me spanish?

I know echar de menos means to miss someone

But the main definition seems to be to throw

But is that would you would actually use to mean to throw

Like, El pibe echó una piedra a la ventana

or would you use a different verb there like tirar or lanzar?

You should be asking Val

I can point you in the right directions for sure

If you really want to start, download Rosetta Stone (I can help with that), start doing that, also Pimsleur and probably the Michael Thomas stuff too (all found on the bay de argh matey)....and go through all that which if you work hard at should take like 6 months

Once you're at that point you could be listening to podcasts and watching dubbed tv shows and movies and understanding a lot, reading news articles and reading books-- thats basically where I am, but I still can't really speak Spanish

I want to learn from someone who went through the process. I don't really want to know all the 15 millino different variations of verbs like you do, I just want the basics.

I want to prepare for my time in texas someday.

well.......its different for me because it feels like I've been learning Spanish for most of my life-- and I have-- I think I had my first Spanish class when I was like 11-- which is ridiculous that i still can't speak it

not that there haven't been many years where I learned nothing of course....

but for starting with just no knowledge of the language whatsoever....I can't really speak to that-- although I can with German and say that its ****ing hard

But unless you're going to some all Mexican border town, you aren't going to need Spanish in Texas. I certainly never 'needed it' in Arizona.

But really-- the internet is a tremendous resource. Pimsleur and Rosetta Stone can definitely give you enough of a base to where you can attempt to actually speak with people. And I don't think there is any substitute for constant exposure.

my dream has always been to live in a mexico/ texas border town

This might be the best lede to a story I've ever written. Feel like sharing:

Williamsport High School senior Kaelii Stout would prefer you to believe she’s just like every other high school senior.
But Stout isn’t like every other high school senior. Very few high school seniors are state track and field champions.
“It was pretty amazing to know I could accomplish something so big with everything I’ve gone through,” Stout said.
Oh yeah, that other thing. That would be cystic fibrosis, a life-threatening disease that impairs normal respiratory and digestive functions. Stout was diagnosed with the condition in 1994 as an infant, and takes dozens of medications daily.
“A lot of people don’t realize what I go through on a day-to-day basis,” Stout said. “I just want to be like everybody else, do what they do and not let (my condition) stand in my way.”

Full story

entonces te ayudaré

(then I'll help you)

but seriously download rosetta stone and pimsleur and start doing those if you really want to learn. Rosetta Stone is for vocab and grammar and Pimsleur is for speaking/listening. There isn't a ton I could help you with that you can't learn on your own-- very little actually

Me eché en mi cama. ( i laid on my bed)
Me echaron de mi casa. ( I got kicked out of home)
Me eché el ramo. ( I failed a class)
Me eché el computador. ( I screwed up the computer)
Me eché una paja. ( I masturbated)

Those are the way its used on Chile, never heard of echar as throw.

yeah, echar is scary

those definitely help though, although some of those sentences make more sense for me than others

anyone here ever deep fry a turkey?