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11-07-2020 , 03:41 PM
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1. Nf3 c5
2. g3 Nc6
3. Bg2 d5
4. d3 e5
5. e4 Nf6
6. Nbd2 Bd6
7. c3 0-0
8. 0-0 b5
9. exd5 Nxd5
10. c4 bxc4
11. dxc4 Nb6
12. Nxe5 Nxe5
13. Bxa8 Nxa8
14. Ne4 Be7
15. Qh5 Nc6
16. Nxc5 g6
17. Qd5 Qc7
18. Bf4 Qb6
19. Be3 Rd8
20. Ne6 Rxd5
21. Bxb6 Re5
22. Nd4 Nxd4
23. Bxd4 Re4
24. Rad1 Nc7
25. Rfe1 Rxe1+
26. Rxe1

Last edited by UncleDynamite; 11-07-2020 at 03:44 PM. Reason: Added a diagram
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11-07-2020 , 04:07 PM
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1. Nf3 c5
2. g3 Nc6
3. Bg2 d5
4. d3 e5
5. e4 Nf6
6. Nbd2 Bd6
7. c3 0-0
8. 0-0 b5
9. exd5 Nxd5
10. c4 bxc4
11. dxc4 Nb6
12. Nxe5 Nxe5
13. Bxa8 Nxa8
14. Ne4 Be7
15. Qh5 Nc6
16. Nxc5 g6
17. Qd5 Qc7
18. Bf4 Qb6
19. Be3 Rd8
20. Ne6 Rxd5
21. Bxb6 Re5
22. Nd4 Nxd4
23. Bxd4 Re4
24. Rad1 Nc7
25. Rfe1 Rxe1+
26. Rxe1 Bb4
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11-07-2020 , 04:11 PM
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1. Nf3 c5
2. g3 Nc6
3. Bg2 d5
4. d3 e5
5. e4 Nf6
6. Nbd2 Bd6
7. c3 0-0
8. 0-0 b5
9. exd5 Nxd5
10. c4 bxc4
11. dxc4 Nb6
12. Nxe5 Nxe5
13. Bxa8 Nxa8
14. Ne4 Be7
15. Qh5 Nc6
16. Nxc5 g6
17. Qd5 Qc7
18. Bf4 Qb6
19. Be3 Rd8
20. Ne6 Rxd5
21. Bxb6 Re5
22. Nd4 Nxd4
23. Bxd4 Re4
24. Rad1 Nc7
25. Rfe1 Rxe1+
26. Rxe1 Bb4
27. Re3
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11-08-2020 , 12:32 PM
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I resign
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11-08-2020 , 12:54 PM
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Quote:
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I resign
Uh... I didn’t expect that. Can’t you play ...a5 and try to hold on?

Anyway, defintely a horrible game from both of us. You definitely had a winning position at one point.
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11-08-2020 , 01:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by UncleDynamite
Uh... I didn’t expect that. Can’t you play ...a5 and try to hold on?

Anyway, defintely a horrible game from both of us. You definitely had a winning position at one point.
maybe a5 followed by Ne6 would have held on for a while since my bishop can control b8 from d6 and c7 (I assume Rb3 was coming due to my weak back rank and c8 bishop) but I can't really keep my a pawn for long and I don't have a way to deal with your queenside pawns

you're probably right that there were blunders on both sides and I'm especially curious what an engine would say about the position after 20. Ne6

in any case, gg
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11-08-2020 , 01:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sun Tzu
maybe a5 followed by Ne6 would have held on for a while since my bishop can control b8 from d6 and c7 (I assume Rb3 was coming due to my weak back rank and c8 bishop) but I can't really keep my a pawn for long and I don't have a way to deal with your queenside pawns

you're probably right that there were blunders on both sides and I'm especially curious what an engine would say about the position after 20. Ne6

in any case, gg
I checked. After 20. Ne6, black is winning (-3 is the evaluation) after 20. ...Rxd5 21. Bxb6 Rd7 bc I cannot save both Bishop and Knight. I should have just played 20. Nb3. My plan was actually to play 20. Nd7 but when we got there, I saw that you had 20. ... Qc7 and decided to complicate things, hoping you would go astray somewhere.

GG.

Edit: apparently you are right and you will end up losing the a-pawn anyway, but the engine says that while it’s much better for white, it’s not winning yet (+1.5). Of course, defending this as a human is not easy.
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11-08-2020 , 01:46 PM
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wow Rd7 wasn't even one of my candidates

I had looked at Bxe6 and fxe6 and decided that fxe6 was playable

I overlooked Nd4 in response to Re5 and had assumed you were losing a piece there

20...Rd7 is a hell of an engine move
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