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Originally Posted by CPHoya
Time keeps getting away from me for family stuff. I'm not inclined to ban either of you even though you both totally deserve it, and know that, and posted that way ON PURPOSE as a rhetorical tool to further express your madness at each other. Which is annoying because now I'm pretty much giving you a pass about breaking forum rules on purpose. I'm within my rights to do all sorts of ban / infraction / whatever.
BATM: I don't care about your games, really. What I do care about is you actively recruiting people into a WW game that was, by even a charitable interpretation, broken and dumb. I also have a large problem with you modding the game in a way that made you an active participant in the game, influencing decisions and outcomes beyond the available information.
If you want to run games with that much interference or "AIDS," you need to advertise them as a BATM game that is not actually WW. It just shares elements.
As a WW game, that game was broken and a waste of time for anyone who really was looking for a WW game. The fact that you recruited people - you sent me the PM as well - to play WW in that thread is evidence that you knew you were tricking people and trolling them. The reaction is not surprising to me, because after the first day I would've been pissed too.
I'm reminded of a vanilla game that office dog ran where the role PMs were so incompetent that no one knew they were a wolf, and chaos ensued. This is a lot like that.
You modded very badly and should acknowledge that, which you have in your way sort of done.
In the future, don't run abysmal games and call them werewolf and waste everyone's time. If you ever do, you'll be banned from modding.
With regard to your posts in this thread, you continually insist on making unacceptable personal attacks in a routine, grating, arrogant and immature manner. And then you whine about other people being mean to you. I don't care who said what first, you cannot do that. I know you know this, because I communicate this to you via PM on a regular basis, and you still do it.
Instead of banning you, I will shortly be hitting you with a significant infraction. It will last a year. You will fix this or you will again be infracted, and that will almost certainly be a significant ban.
DWETZEL: I understand your frustration. I do NOT understand the magnitude of it. At some point you must have realized you had blown up, probably around the part where you started bringing up his child. That's bad, dude. No matter how ****ty his game, you don't know him or his family and that's cruel.
I've politely asked you tone this part of your repertoire down, and I'm sure you mostly try. But your comments in here are beyond the pale, on purpose, and you know that.
I can easily imagine myself getting furious and saying awful stuff too, and I acknowledge that me working on this spat is pretty questionable given my history in the "try hard / game integrity" camp vs. the "lol / you're too serious" camp. But I think you knew what you were doing and knew I had, because I can relate, tried to extend you a lot of rope.
You too are going to get a significant infraction. I anticipate this barely mattering to you, because you'll control yourself. But if you don't, it'll be your decision.
BOTH OF YOU: I like having both of you here. I don't want either of you gone, at all.
I also do not appreciate you trying to force me to take action against each other. I expect you to help maintain this community, and that's gonna mean tolerating each other's existence in it.
I think you both went scorched earth and tried to be martyrs. I'm taking that away from you by not banning you.
The infractions last a year. I hope you won't get yourselves banned by forgetting or ignoring that you've been unmistakably warned that your posting cannot be openly hostile in the way this thread became.
It should be noted that I've agreed with Dwetz most of the time...that said...
In 7th grade, I took an SAT test without preparing for it at all, it was spur-of-the-moment, I knew about it about an hour ahead of time and didn't do any research or anything. I scored higher on it than the average person using it to apply for college in my area. An IQ test has shown me to be in the 99.9th percentile for IQ. This is the highest result the test I was given reaches; anything further and they'd consider it to be within the margin of error for that test.
My mother's boyfriend of 15 years is an aerospace engineer who graduated Virginia Tech. At the age of 15, I understood physics better than him, and I owe very little of it to him, as he would rarely give me a decent explanation of anything, just tell me that my ideas were wrong and become aggravated with me for not quite understanding thermodynamics. He's not particularly successful as an engineer, but I've met lots of other engineers who aren't as good as me at physics, so I'm guessing that's not just a result of him being bad at it. I'm also pretty good at engineering. I don't have a degree, and other than physics I don't have a better understanding of any aspect of engineering than any actual engineer, but I have lots of ingenuity for inventing new things. For example, I independently invented regenerative brakes before finding out what they were, and I was only seven or eight years old when I started inventing wireless electricity solutions (my first idea being to use a powerful infrared laser to transmit energy; admittedly not the best plan).
I have independently thought of basically every branch of philosophy I've come across. Every question of existentialism which I've seen discussed in books or anywhere else, the thoughts haven't been new to me. Philosophy has pretty much gotten trivial for me; I considered taking a philosophy course in college just to see how easy it was. I didn't.
Psychology, I actually understand better than people with degrees. Unlike engineering, there's no aspect of psychology which I don't have a very good understanding of. I can debunk many of even Sigmund Freud's theories.
I'm a good enough writer that I'm writing a book and so far everybody who's read any of it has said it was really good and plausible to expect to have published. And that's not just, like, me and family members, that counts strangers on the Internet. I've heard zero negative appraisal of it so far; people have critiqued it, but not insulted it.
I don't know if that will suffice as evidence that I'm intelligent. But as a man of intelligence I agree with BATM. The following are some examples of my morals and ethical code.
I believe firmly that everybody deserves a future. If we were to capture Hitler at the end of WWII, I would be against executing him. In fact, if we had any way of rehabilitating him and knowing that he wasn't just faking it, I'd even support the concept of letting him go free. This is essentially because I think that whoever you are in the present is a separate entity from who you were in the past and who you are in the future, and while your present self should take responsibility for your past self's actions, it shouldn't be punished for them simply for the sake of punishment, especially if the present self regrets the actions of the past self and feels genuine guilt about them.
I don't believe in judgement of people based on their personal choices as long as those personal choices aren't harming others. I don't have any issue with any type of sexuality whatsoever (short of physically acting out necrophilia, pedophilia, or other acts which have a harmful affect on others - but I don't care what a person's fantasies consist of, as long as they recognize the difference between reality and fiction and can separate them). I don't have any issue with anybody over what type of music they listen to, or clothes they wear, etc. I know that's not really an impressive moral, but it's unfortunately rare; a great many people, especially those my age, are judgmental about these things. I love everyone, even people I hate. I wish my worst enemies good fortune and happiness. Monkey Banana is a vile, piece of **** human being, deserving of zero respect, but I wish for him to change for the better and live the best life possible. I wish this for everyone.
I'm pretty much a pacifist. I've taken a broken nose without fighting back or seeking retribution, because the guy stopped punching after that. The only time I'll fight back is if 1) the person attacking me shows no signs of stopping and 2) if I don't attack, I'll come out worse than the other person will if I do. In other words, if fighting someone is going to end up being more harmful to them than just letting them go will be to me, I don't fight back. I've therefore never had a reason to fight back against anyone in anything serious, because my ability to take pain has so far made it so that I'm never in a situation where I'll be worse off after a fight. If I'm not going to get any hospitalizing injuries, I really don't care.
The only exception is if someone is going after my life. Even then, I'll do the minimum amount of harm to them that I possibly can in protecting myself. If someone points a gun at me and I can get out of it without harming them, I'd prefer to do that over killing them. I consider myself a feminist. I don't believe in enforced or uniform gender roles; they may happen naturally, but they should never be coerced into happening unnaturally. As in, the societal pressure for gender roles should really go, even if it'll turn out that the majority of relationships continue operating the same way of their own accord. I treat women with the same outlook I treat men, and never participate in the old Twoplustwo "women are crazy" circlejerk, because there are multiple women out there and each have different personalities just like there are multiple men out there and each with different personalities. I don't think you do much of anything except scare off the awesome women out there by going on and on about the ones who aren't awesome.
That doesn't mean I look for places to victimize women, I just don't believe it's fair to make generalizations such as the one about women acting like everything's OK when it's really not (and that's a particularly harsh example, because all humans do that). I'm kind of tired of citing these examples and I'm guessing you're getting tired of reading them, if you've even made it this far. In closing, the people who know me in real life all respect me, as do a great many people in the werewolf community, where I spend most of my time and where I'm pretty known for being helpful around the community. A lot of people in my segment of the community are going through hard times, and I spend a lot of time giving advice and support to people there. Yesterday someone quoted a case of me doing this in a post asking everyone what their favorite motivational/inspirational quote was, and that comment was very popular in skype chat, so I guess other people agreed.
All that, and I think Dwetz's behavior in this thread was totally assholish. So what do you think, now that you know where I am coming from?