If this guy was evading a perma-ban for months here, it's kinda crazy to reward that by revoking his perma-ban. Just on general 2p2 principles.

Free starrazz!?

I'm a pretty forgiving person in general. I can't stay mad at people for long. So if dice was a bad guy and is now reformed, I don't see the problem as I consider him to be a net positive for POG WW games. He's quirky and stubborn and he's tried to win in every game I've played with him in, which as I've said, is a lot.

You guys are spoiled as ****. You don't even know how good you have it. I had a game on another forum about two months ago where a wolf PM'd the wolf roster to a villager who then outed it in the thread (all on purpose) and ruined the game. The villager who was in on it was playing in the next game.

People giving up as a wolf or getting modkilled due to not posting? It happens. It's not a banworthy offense. Get over it.

Nofear, in all seriousness what is the value in brining that up?

Especially as that incident was not my fault.

I did my share of stuff where I was in the wrong, but that was not one of them.

I'm speaking from my perspective of him as thediceman, I have no knowledge of him as gazz and can't comment on it.

In general I'm against perma bans so my opinion likely won't be popular and YMMV.

Make him go through some kind of POG rehab where he apologizes to the people he's wronged or something, go full tard Disney resolution sequence if you have to

And then leave it up to the game mod's discretion

That's what I would do

- opinion of a tard 2014 spawn

Nah, starrazz is still around, but isn't Leo. Check your PMs.

looks like teddyyy has moved on to greener pastures

opinions are welcome tom

I mean, I was barely around for the stories and not even the actual offenses, but that's enough for me

without that background I'd completely totally agree with you

Pretty certain that any wolf games that I have conceded as thediceman has been discussed with my team mates before hand.

Wolf teams conceded is not against the rules is it?

Well to me this news is like hearing that Wilverine or mucksandgravs is a perma banned guy like McAvoy

It's just surprising to me given I've played many games with dice and he's never struck me as a troublemaker

probably because multiple people who are relatively new to POG asked what you did??

Cory and I were a wolf team with dice once and he fought really hard to turn it around after I got lynched so I don't even agree that he's a weak wolf or whatever

Probably not worth anything, but I was banned for a year and asked to come back. The ruling did not go in my favour.

A while after that I realised that there were people on here who would always say no to magic_gazz coming back.

My options were never to play werewolf on POG again or make a new account.

I am fully aware that I am in the wrong for making a new account but as you can already tell from this thread the fallout of magic_gazz has not stopped after over 2 years.

But that was not something I did wrong, so bringing it up is wrong.

I have nothing against him and wasn't in any of the games with incidents, but I really don't see how not banning him is even an option.

He circumvented a ban. That's not acceptable. When you get kicked out of somewhere, you don't get to just sneak back in and expect to stay if you didn't cause any trouble since sneaking back in.

If you want to come back, you respect your ban and then come back when the very forgiving POG mods tell you you can come back.

tl;dr I don't give a **** about his previous offenses. Ban him for at least a year for his ban circumvention shenanigans.

Thanks Tom

I can confirm that dice had a ****load of WIM that game as a wolf, though like Tom I don't know his history

****ing *******

?? who is star

don't you guys have like, probation periods or something?

just seems cruel to permanently ban someone

like if you're going to permaban someone ban BWG

this post right here

this is the exact reason why a re-perma is the only correct action here

"it was agreed that I should not be allowed back, so I said screw it I'm coming back anyway"

Someone did a similar thing here, they posted the whole wolf chat in the thread.

Unfortunately I upset a lot of people in my previous outing on here and apparently there are some people now who do not like my style of play.

I can see why this would be a popular opinion as well

I just don't believe in perma banning people unless they are like wildly offensive and actively trying to destroy the forum

I'm not a fan of "zero tolerance" laws and the like

I think people should be temped. Not perma banned.

Temp him for 3-6 months for the circumvent. Let him come back after that under the condition he doesn't make another alt. I think that's reasonable.