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o/ Just got in from a weekend in the dead zone of West Virginia an hour ago. I'll be around to catch up and do EoD at work for tomorrow but probably not posting tonight unless the kids fall asleep early.

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10-11-2021 , 07:09 PM

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Luckbox Inc

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Originally Posted by bsball8806

DZ is pretty villagery, tessa are you from MU/how many games do you play there? i'm inclined to think they're probably a villager too

Tess is from the streets, is a super good wolf but probably villaging here.

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10-11-2021 , 07:11 PM

#203

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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc

Tess is from the streets, is a super good wolf but probably villaging here.

whys that

and have you read fanmail yet

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10-11-2021 , 07:20 PM

#204

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Originally Posted by tessepia

whys that

and have you read fanmail yet

I've read fanmail but now need to reread him.

And why is because you seem "organic enough".

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10-11-2021 , 07:23 PM

#205

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Originally Posted by Comrade_Pupper

pretty sure either Creature or Wiggles is a wolf

possibly both

I've played in probably 30 games with Creature and none of them had less than 30 players. I might have to actually attempt to read him for the first time ever.

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10-11-2021 , 07:25 PM

#206

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Through 50ish posts I've got village vibes on Pupper and nothing else. Back later tonight maybe.

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10-11-2021 , 07:34 PM

#207

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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc

Tess is from the streets, is a super good wolf but probably villaging here.

iyo

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10-11-2021 , 07:38 PM

#208

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what is the reason for not lunching Creature?

the three reason I can think for not lunching someone d1 are:

1) they are villagery
2) they are a valuable villager later in the game
3) they are super easy to read after a few days

don’t think Creature is any of those things

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10-11-2021 , 07:40 PM

#209

tessepia

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Originally Posted by Comrade_Pupper

very nicely constructed to be intentionally obtuse and ignore that "reasons for exe'ing someone day 1" are a thing

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10-11-2021 , 07:41 PM

#210

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Originally Posted by Shad_

I've played in probably 30 games with Creature and none of them had less than 30 players. I might have to actually attempt to read him for the first time ever.

i modded a vanilla game where he was a wolf a bit back and he did the same complaining schtick he does in basically every game

doesn’t mean he is a wolf here, but it does indicate he is at least capable of replicating it as a wolf

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10-11-2021 , 07:43 PM

#211

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Originally Posted by tessepia

very nicely constructed

thanks

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10-11-2021 , 07:45 PM

#212

tessepia

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Originally Posted by Comrade_Pupper

I've seen him do the same

But I don't really pushing the guy doing nothing is the best course and don't know why you do either, over like, fanmail. Maybe even me if you really want

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10-11-2021 , 07:45 PM

#213

tessepia

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don't really think*

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10-11-2021 , 07:46 PM

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Votes from post 3 to post 213
Night in 17:14:42
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Votes	Lynch	Voters
2	Doctor Zeus	Creature (5), bsball8806 (15)
1	filthyvermin	fanmail (22)
1	fanmail	tessepia (31)
1	Creature	Comrade_Pupper (34)
1	KingWiggles	Doctor Zeus (33)
1	aaronk56	KingWiggles (23)
1	unvote	aaronk56 (9)
5	not voting	filthyvermin (0), iraisetoomuch (12), Kawamii (0), Luckbox Inc (21), Shad_ (3)

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10-11-2021 , 07:46 PM

#215

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Originally Posted by tessepia

But I don't really pushing the guy doing nothing is the best course and don't know why you do either,

because i play to win, not to pump my ego

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10-11-2021 , 07:48 PM

#216

tessepia

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Originally Posted by Comrade_Pupper

because i play to win, not to pump my ego

yeah, obviously that's what killing a completely rand read is for, winning

idk why I attempted anything. Suppose I just won't again

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10-11-2021 , 07:48 PM

#217

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Originally Posted by Comrade_Pupper

Creature is off limits on D1

Reasons for not lunching is that he is D1 lunch bait.

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10-11-2021 , 07:49 PM

#218

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Originally Posted by tessepia

yeah, obviously that's what killing a completely rand read is for, winning

idk why I attempted anything. Suppose I just won't again

obviously this is a straw man

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10-11-2021 , 07:50 PM

#219

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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc

Creature is off limits on D1

Reasons for not lunching is that he is D1 lunch bait.

this is a circular argument

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10-11-2021 , 07:51 PM

#220

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I once thought about making a ben shapiro alt to be annoying and point out random logic fallacies but I guess the idea's taken

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10-11-2021 , 07:51 PM

#221

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Originally Posted by Comrade_Pupper

this is a circular argument

not really

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10-11-2021 , 07:51 PM

#222

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Huh. I didn't know this was a 24/24.

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10-11-2021 , 07:52 PM

#223

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just to make it more concrete for some of our more obstinate friends:

mislunching fanmail is far more -EV for the the village than mislunching Creature

thus you have to have a much stronger read on fanmail than is possible d1 to make him the lunch

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10-11-2021 , 07:53 PM

#224

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Originally Posted by Comrade_Pupper

of course someone trying to pump their ego wouldn’t care about this at all. they just want to baldly post reads and be proven right

someone who is trying to win, however, should care about this