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10-11-2021 , 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Creature
I'm not suggesting 'strategical' mislynch though
strategic mislunching is pupper's whole approach to D1
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10-11-2021 , 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Doctor Zeus
I thought the opposite.
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Originally Posted by Comrade_Pupper
pretty sure either Creature or Wiggles is a wolf

possibly both
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Originally Posted by Comrade_Pupper
same
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Originally Posted by Comrade_Pupper
this is such an out of pocket assessment of Creature's werewolf game that I struggle to believe that Wiggle can be a villager
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Originally Posted by Doctor Zeus
yah I'll King Wiggles
I think Bird is town from their posts, but feels like Doctor Zeus was waiting town to bite the bait to follow up the first quote.
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10-11-2021 , 09:21 PM
Wiggles
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10-11-2021 , 09:21 PM
im all out of cheap wine. i had to open an expensive bottle. wow it's delicous. taste like butter. im drunk
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10-11-2021 , 09:22 PM
wiggles
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10-11-2021 , 09:54 PM
Hi friends
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10-11-2021 , 09:55 PM
24/24 gives me enough time to read this all again and reform reads but that won’t happen until morning
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10-11-2021 , 09:59 PM
Have a hard time believing villagers found a wolf wiggles on page 1 but I mean maybe

This feels like a game where I am kept alive for not solving early and maybe become useful d4
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10-11-2021 , 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by fanmail
24/24 gives me enough time to read this all again and reform reads but that won’t happen until morning
but what reads do you have now? I have like 5 villagers fwiw.
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10-11-2021 , 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by fanmail
Have a hard time believing villagers found a wolf wiggles on page 1 but I mean maybe

This feels like a game where I am kept alive for not solving early and maybe become useful d4
wolves get found on page 1 every day?
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10-11-2021 , 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
but what reads do you have now? I have like 5 villagers fwiw.

I don’t know if I have that many yet
Feel pretty good about Bsball, you
Ir2m aaronk maybe v too
I want Pupper to be wolf but I am not quite there
Don’t trust dz or wiggles or creature or tess but not sure who to lunch yet
Everyone else null

You?
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10-11-2021 , 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
wolves get found on page 1 every day?

It happens sometimes, but it just feels a bit too easy is all
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10-11-2021 , 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by fanmail
I don’t know if I have that many yet
Feel pretty good about Bsball, you
Ir2m aaronk maybe v too
I want Pupper to be wolf but I am not quite there
Don’t trust dz or wiggles or creature or tess but not sure who to lunch yet
Everyone else null

You?
most of the people you don't trust I have as villagers and almost all of the people that you like I don't have as villagers

this is not a good omen
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10-11-2021 , 10:09 PM
my villagers being: pupper, tess, dz, creature, filthy
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10-11-2021 , 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
most of the people you don't trust I have as villagers and almost all of the people that you like I don't have as villagers

this is not a good omen

We’ll probably meet somewhere in the middle at some point
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10-11-2021 , 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
my villagers being: pupper, tess, dz, creature, filthy

Hmm that seems aggressive
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10-11-2021 , 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by fanmail
We’ll probably meet somewhere in the middle at some point
only if the village hasn't done bad to you before that can happen....I might not be able to stop them...they're pretty reckless.
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10-11-2021 , 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by fanmail
Hmm that seems aggressive
on Creature and Filthy sure but I like it....I feel pretty ok about the other three
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10-11-2021 , 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
only if the village hasn't done bad to you before that can happen....I might not be able to stop them...they're pretty reckless.

Yeah depends if village is interested in killing wolves or not
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10-11-2021 , 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
only if the village hasn't done bad to you before that can happen....I might not be able to stop them...they're pretty reckless.
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Originally Posted by fanmail
Yeah depends if village is interested in killing wolves or not
had to read ths like 5 times to understand it lol
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10-11-2021 , 11:01 PM
Votes from post 3 to post 270
Night in 13:59:58

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3 KingWiggles Doctor Zeus (33), Luckbox Inc (35), filthyvermin (9)
2 Doctor Zeus Creature (11), bsball8806 (16)
1 filthyvermin fanmail (30)
1 fanmail tessepia (33)
1 Creature Comrade_Pupper (48)
1 aaronk56 KingWiggles (23)
1 unvote aaronk56 (9)
3 not voting iraisetoomuch (13), Kawamii (0), Shad_ (3)
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10-11-2021 , 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by fanmail
I want Pupper to be wolf but I am not quite there
why would you want this?
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10-11-2021 , 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
my villagers being: pupper, tess, dz, creature, filthy
I was going to say I don't understand how you can claim tess is a "good wolf" but then claim you have read them villager part way through day 1

but of course that takes as a premise that you actually believe the stuff you say. Once I get out of that frame of reference I do understand
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10-11-2021 , 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Creature
I'm not suggesting 'strategical' mislynch though
It really isn't a difficult concept and I will chalk up the people who are deliberately misrepresenting what I am saying to willful ignorance.

Everyone starts at the game ~rand to be a wolf (to a village this would be a 3/12 or 25% chance). The longer the game goes the more solid reads get along with other information like peeks etc as. But by the end of d1 with no lunches, vote information, or outted peeks or night actions, people's reads aren't that solid--probably only slightly better than rand.

So let's say by the end of the day villager A's change of being a wolf is 27% and villager B's chance of being a wolf is 29%. If we knew nothing else about these players of course we lunch villager B.

But if we know that villager B is very valuable as a villager later in the game and villager A isn't then we have to factor this into the outcome of lunching these players.

It is not as simple as "who is more likely to be a wolf". We have to understand how mislunching these players (given there is still a 73% and 71% chance of it being a mislunch, respectively) affects the win probability for the village.

I am not saying "I think Creature is a villager and I want to mislunch him". I am saying you have a chance to be either a wolf or a villager and that if you are a villager your mislunch is not as bad for the villager win % than if fanmail is a villager and we mislunch him. So the chance than fanmail was a wolf compared to the just you are a wolf would have to be quite disparate for me to support a fanmail lunch.
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10-11-2021 , 11:14 PM
Last sentece correction:

So the chance than fanmail is a wolf compared to the chance you are a wolf would have to be quite disparate for me to support a fanmail lunch.
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