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04-30-2014 , 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Vagos
alright I guess

kinda starting to think you're a villager in the way you've pushed leo actually, like that explanation post you just made makes it seem like you're more concerned with CATCHING him than actually unpacking the nature of his posts - is that a fair assessment?
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Originally Posted by Vagos
yep, we're on the same page here
i actually got some of vagos posts confused with some by euro(i think) where he was talking about clearing you after your tom shot some more

and i also forgot that vagos advocated for you to be peeked

so i'm kinda over my tinfoil aorn
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04-30-2014 , 10:52 AM
outside of missle's lists being a little too complete, i thought his tone was relatively decent

he can never really leave the POE, but absent someone telling me he's outside of his meta or something i'm content to go after players that have done more objectively wolfy things

with my luck he's a major wolf PR and this will eventually be used to push me once he flips, but whatever
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04-30-2014 , 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by LeonardoDicaprio
i actually got some of vagos posts confused with some by euro(i think) where he was talking about clearing you after your tom shot some more

and i also forgot that vagos advocated for you to be peeked

so i'm kinda over my tinfoil aorn
i'd appreciate it if you could quote this

should probably reread the peek section of d1 at some point
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04-30-2014 , 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Montecore
outside of missle's lists being a little too complete, i thought his tone was relatively decent

he can never really leave the POE, but absent someone telling me he's outside of his meta or something i'm content to go after players that have done more objectively wolfy things

with my luck he's a major wolf PR and this will eventually be used to push me once he flips, but whatever
the list he made entering the thread yesterday was worse than the one telco made today by a wide margin
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04-30-2014 , 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Vagos
peek effen?
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Originally Posted by Vagos
ivers and effen both solid peeks afaict
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04-30-2014 , 10:53 AM
missle for now to see if he starts putting in a little work and not simply posting a large list.

i'm still having a hard time finding booker wolfy, even though he's specifically reached 10 posts both days according to domer. his d1 w/ tom is tough to be w/w
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04-30-2014 , 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Montecore
outside of missle's lists being a little too complete, i thought his tone was relatively decent

he can never really leave the POE, but absent someone telling me he's outside of his meta or something i'm content to go after players that have done more objectively wolfy things

with my luck he's a major wolf PR and this will eventually be used to push me once he flips, but whatever
wasn't really a large fan of his tone tbh.
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04-30-2014 , 10:57 AM
nks: I had a quick look at TehVader and there seems no reason for wolves to have killed him. So I'm assuming that wolves killed Gad and xkf, and village vigged TehVader and MFFNIke.

xkf gets killed, I suppose, because he's hard claiming a peek and playing effectively.

DWetzel's telcontar stuff is interesting. If telcontar is a villager it's possible that wolves may have seen his peek as well - especially after DWetz brings attention to telc's posts - and so might have had the same idea and not be sure that xkf wasn't providing seer cover. But they may not have made the same deductions, and/or took the chance of clearing up a possible seer and a decently clear village in one go. If telcontar is a wolf similar things apply. I don't see that we can get much information out of that. [I suppose at a stretch those who are fans of Euro's title claim spotting abilities might read that as it being fractionally less likely that he's a wolf. But that's pretty meh for me.]

I'm currently imagining that Gad was a spk because he was captaining - but I'm going to go and read some more to see if there's anything else. Gad's last words, fwiw (& obv to be taken with a pinch of salt given he was wrong about MFFNike)

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Originally Posted by Gadarene
If the villa vig is considering shooting tchaz, he should reconsider and rand between ianaww and Tom and others instead
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Originally Posted by Gadarene
And if Nike survives, don't let him skate

Make him give reads

Then probably kill him
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Originally Posted by Gadarene
Don't forget that Punker is clear plz
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Originally Posted by Gadarene
Still not sure about TheNothing but she gets villa points for zdye
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04-30-2014 , 10:58 AM
chartz - thanks for the updates yesterday domer

PlayerCharacterRoleWhenHowPost
BATMRickie FowlerColor PosterD1MK1209
HUstylezJeff MaggertSlank VigD1ITA (TN)1942
Insanity31Fred FunkSilent ITA ShooterN1Wolf Team2498
Suqata8Craig StadlerMasonN1Wolf Vig?2498
cmac5555Bobby JonesFull SeerN1Villa Vig?2498
vixticatorKevin StadlerMasonD2Character Vig?2932
VagosGreg NormanITA BoosterD2Event Vigs3259
mucksandgravsRory McIlroySpew Day VigD2Lots of ITAs4377
zdye724Erin NordgrenPR HunterD2Lots of ITAs4419
iversonianJack NicklausAngelD2ITAs4469
KruzeGreen JacketITA ProtectorD2Lots of ITAs4676
Top Tier TomSeve Ballasteros2-Life WolfD2Lynch4939
xkfJim NantzSummarizer (1-Peek)N2Wolf TK4945
mffnikeJeff OvertonVanillaN2 4945
TehVaderFuzzy ZoellerVanillaN2 4945
GadareneChris DiMarcoVanillaN2 4945


ITA Practice Session D1

ShooterTargetResult
VixticatorDuckburgMiss
TheNothingHUStylesDead Villa
XkfVagosMiss
EffenTop Tier TomPeeked Wolf
domer2klingbardMiss
LeonardomffnikeMiss
PunkerTelcontarMiss
Top Tier TomBookerMiss
Ashingtonzdyetoo late
VagosDuckburgtoo late
72offEurotrashtoo late
mutigersklingbardtoo late
zdyeAshingtontoo late

Vig shots Day2 (thanks kaze)
I put in order of Shot Taken

Claimed ShooterClaimed TargetTime shot claimedTime shot processedOrder shot claimedOrder shot taken
UnknownLeonardoDicapriounclaimed:24unclaimed1
punkerTheNothing:37:3162
XkfVagos:22:43 or :4323 or 4
wangpirateVagos:25:43 or :4333 or 4
duckburgVagos:30:4845
LeonardoDicapriozdye:21:0016
domer2Top Tier Tom (redirected/Gad):36:0257


ITA day 2

ShooterTargetResult 
wangpiratemucksandgravsmiss 
TTTiversonianmiss 
MFFNikezdye724miss 
Dwetzelmucksandgravsmiss 
mucksandgravsiversonianhit, shoulder 
metsandfinsfansmucksandgravsmiss 
Eurotrashmucksandgravsmiss 
CPHoyamucksandgravshit, wrist 
mutigers5591zdye724miss 
TheNothingzdye724miss 
zdye724iversonianhit, wrist 
Montecoremucksandgravsmiss 
72offmucksandgravshit, dead spew vig4377
Gadarenezdye724miss 
TehVadermucksandgravsalready dead 
domer2zdye724miss 
Telcontarmucksandgravsalready dead 
Xkfzdye724hit, dead pr hunter4419
Ashingtonzdye724already dead 
iversoniankruzehit, shoulder 
SILENTiversonianhit, dead village angel4469
LenCMFFNikehit, shoulder 
iamnotawerewolfKlingbardhit, shoulder 
Kaze13MFFNikemiss 
Klingbardkruzemiss 
LeonardoDiCapriokruzehit, wrist 
kruzeMFFNikemiss 
PunkerMFFNikeHit, wrist 
tchazMFFNikemiss 
Effenkruzehit, dead jacket4676
Booker WolfboxMFFNikemiss 


OTHER IMPORTANT INFORMATION:

Top Tier Tom was peeked wolf during practice ITA

Xkf claims a peek of dwetzel = villager
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04-30-2014 , 11:01 AM
Ok back to bed. Adios
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04-30-2014 , 11:01 AM
changed a few things

quick thoughts (in no particular order)

suspicious face:
effen
missle
wang
euro

not sure about
tchaz
72o
kling
lenc
telc
booker - moved him bc i had him "good" bc of tom's shot at him but tom flipping tough wolf changes that

feel decent about
domer
mutigers
ianaww
kaze
leo fine

fairly sure they are villagers
mets
duck
dwetz
punker
montecore
ashington




my "not sure about" section needs reading and scrutiny from me today bc i am waffling on too many people
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04-30-2014 , 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Duckburg
I'f I'm a seer I was role blocked last night.

If I'm any other PR I found out that Tiger Woods is a JOAT or that there is a wolf in tchaz/mets


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Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan
tchaz

duck says either you or I is a wolf ...

thoughts?
That's not what duckburg says.

(fwiw) He's essentially clear as can be and he can go about his business however he likes.
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04-30-2014 , 11:02 AM
lol at "leo fine"

so much fear
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04-30-2014 , 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by tchaz




That's not what duckburg says.

(fwiw) He's essentially clear as can be and he can go about his business however he likes.
So ur not a scared?
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04-30-2014 , 11:05 AM
TN you're still skeptical about me even after the me vs. TTT event?
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04-30-2014 , 11:06 AM
Lets open the day with chartz



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As complete as I can keep up. Let me know if any mistakes.
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04-30-2014 , 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by DWetzel
tchaz,

that was one of those "votes to see what happens" kinda things. Never know if you'll get a rush on the second wagon that we can actually learn something from.
That's what I took it as (both last night and today).

But as I hadn't paid him any attention, when you voted him I went off and did a quick read. What do you make of the 'progression' of his lists? Is that wolfy work, as Ash maintains, in your view.

I've never played with him before and he claims (my words not his) to like to accumulate info and try to judge things rather than create interactions. If that's true it doesn't look particularly wolfy to me. There was criticism of him as if he'd arrived at his final list ex nihilo - but that seems to be somewhat off target.
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04-30-2014 , 11:07 AM
interesting @ punker's 2nd chart.

there's very few people who have targetted a wolf every chance they've had.
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04-30-2014 , 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan
So ur not a scared?
No. Why would I be?
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04-30-2014 , 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by wangpirate
TN you're still skeptical about me even after the me vs. TTT event?
for like the fifth time, yes

let's say, for instance, you ARE on a wolf team with an outed wolf

you get paired up with them in an event

you yourself are not outed in anyway

is there any way you LET THE OUTED WOLF WIN?

NO
NO you don't

so it means nothing
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04-30-2014 , 11:12 AM
oops, cphoya not dead lol
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04-30-2014 , 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Punker
Lets open the day with chartz



and



As complete as I can keep up. Let me know if any mistakes.
Wd with the charts but -more of these in jpg .. really?

Anyway: your d1 ITA seems weird. For example Hoya vig-shot villager BATM, whereas you have Hoya ITA-ing (presumably this is supposed to be the practice round?) a wolf-BATM. Similarly Kaze's d1 shot was a vig not an ita.
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04-30-2014 , 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Punker
Lets open the day with chartz



and



As complete as I can keep up. Let me know if any mistakes.
Uhh. . .

. . .

I didn't die by NK, there were only 4 NKs, and I'm having a hard time figuring out why that mistake would happen unless the answer is you tried to NK me and I got angeled
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04-30-2014 , 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by TheNothing
for like the fifth time, yes

let's say, for instance, you ARE on a wolf team with an outed wolf

you get paired up with them in an event

you yourself are not outed in anyway

is there any way you LET THE OUTED WOLF WIN?

NO
NO you don't

so it means nothing
well

it's not like there is any way to find out that he let him win

but we still dont even know if they would have been allowed to talk about it in wolf chat

it def makes more sense to let tom win if they are able to and are both wolves
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04-30-2014 , 11:14 AM
it's almost as if you knew I'd lost a life, knew I was attacked last night, and forgot to update the "Claimed Couples" part

it's also almost like you didn't actually check before posting because I'm not green in your vote / ITA history chart either
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