how about we stay on PVN

ok comments on the three primary wagons today

dannyKGB: at first i felt he was the best option so i did a reread of wolf danny from the ghostbusters game and i noticed that while the general posting frequency and length was similar he absolutely LOVED to talk about game mechanics while in this game danny is much more concerned with discussion on people. i hate the danny wagon and have a pretty big villa lean on him right now.

The_gf: the vast majority of her posts seem to be about her difficulties in posting here, the two reasonably good content posts i found from her

it's a little wishy-washy but not terribly damning, the post would be fine surrounded by a lot of other content posts helping out the villa

this time discussing game/lore mechanics responding to the case against drontier. this is another post that i feel can be ignored in the company of numerous other helpful posts (since this post itself is pretty helpful) but by itself it does feel wolfy since on the rare occasion she does post content she's discussing lore.

all in all, i don't love the wagon since in another game i played with her she was very utr and villa but i don't hate it either. i don't like the fact that of her two content posts one was wishy-washy and the other was game mechanics/lore, i also don't like the fact that she said on a few occasions that she couldn't post at the moment due to work or phone or whatever but that she would later but then didn't. it's a solid wagon but im still a little skeptical

pvn: from a tone perspective, how he handled both TEPM and drontier both suggest taking care of them now so we won't have to worry later. i've said so in previous games and i will always continue to say so, killing someone you think is a villa because you don't want to be faced with a difficult decision later is HORRIBLE AND WOLFY logic. it's subverted somewhat in dronts case because dront is almost always a vanilla villa or a power wolf and we wouldn't want to have to deal with his powers every night. he also talked more than i liked about game mechanics, especially when there wasn't any heat on him. as an aside, i think the way aries attacked him is also worth consideration. could easily be w/w

in any case, i hate the danny lynch now and into the foreseeable future so between gf and pvn i feel like gf has been the overall most wolfy but pvn had the most wolfiest logic in dealing with TEPM and dront. im going with PVN as logic like that deserves to be punished, especially since the wolves apparently wanted TEPM dead.

Quadstriker 5
VayaConDios 5
A.Ertbjerg 5
DanivbDH 4
TehVader 2
mrs. jonnyd 2
LuckayLuck 1
BitchiBee 1

Vaya has been a wolf every time I've played with him and he's been UTR.

Where's the fun in that?

Seriously though I don't think there's as much in what people have said about pvn as they think. The one game I've played with him he was lynched for similar reasons, things to do with being annoyed at people nit picking (in his opinion) completely pointless things and using them to justify votes. It seems as though he's been very similar this game and he was a villager that game ldo.

is he active in wolfchat as a wolf?

as of 2451

#	Player	votes for
4	Aaronk56's Son	legend42
0	AceofSpades	ZeTurd
0	Andrex Puppy
1	AriesRam	pvn
0	BombayBadboy
0	BrownEyedGirl	Thingyman
1	bsball8806	PointerToVoid
0	Cadaz	The_GF
0	Chips Ahoy	pvn
2	coordi	pvn
4	DannyKGB	The_GF
0	DiggertheDog	pvn
2	Drontier	ElliotR
0	drubell
1	ElliotR	pvn
0	essedarius	pvn
0	ewalsh420
0	FCBLComish	coordi
0	Felix the Cat	Drontier
1	G1982	Aaronk56's Son
0	globetrotter	The_GF
2	goofyballer	legend42
0	J.D.	DannyKGB
0	jonnyd	AriesRam
0	KeanuReaver
0	Kukraprout	The_GF
4	legend42
0	Luckbox Inc	legend42
0	Ludovic Banhammer	pvn
0	McAvoy
0	mflip	umaine89
0	Mr. Smaug	DannyKGB
0	mrs. Jonnyd
0	officedog
0	Old Man Willow
0	OnThInIcE911	pvn
1	PointerToVoid	The_GF
12	pvn
0	Pyromaniac	Aaronk56's Son
0	RiverFenix	The_GF
0	riverfish1	Aaronk56's Son
0	Scrubbo	goofyballer
0	semper fidelis	goofyballer
0	Sun Tzu
0	tabako
0	Tao1	Aaronk56's Son
0	TehVader
0	Telcontar
6	The_GF	pvn
0	theHuntContinues	Drontier
1	Thingyman	DannyKGB
0	TimeLady
1	umaine89	coordi
0	VayaConDios
0	vuroth	bsball8806
0	Willd	G1982
0	WinEvryRacex	pvn
0	xxaceshigh77xx	DannyKGB
0	XXsooted
0	Youngplayer9	pvn
1	ZeTurd	legend42
0	ZomgHax	pvn

Night in 58 minutes


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The post was made as TEPM was claiming, so I don't think it tells us anything re: PVN's alignment. I posted it as it was the first post on Drontier. I'm not saying he's a lock to be a wolf, but he's a good shout imo.

wtf is andrex puppy? has he posted at all?

I'm not sure if I want to lynch the_gf anymore (it's more because of thingyman's post than because of her post)

new attempt at a G1982 wagon?

I will vote for Pyro, AKS, or I will go with OTI and vote PVN. I'm still digging and trying to decide.

While making the post, the wagons were more equal. And pvn is my least favored amongst the wagons I could go for, but I don't hate it, even though I would choose some others over him (see my post).

alright after reading gf's last post i don't like the wagon on her any more
i think she's being honest and it also explains why her content posts were about mechanics/lore and wishy-washy, she wants to be helpful but she doesn't have the time to really get solid reads

sticking with pvn and confident in it

Yeah I think so, I've only played together as wolves with him in the WW2 game. He had very little posts in few first days and focused more on power role hunting than posting in the thread.

so i read all of Legends posts and I still like lynching him

he has a few longer posts, but nothing is very villagery. But he also doesn't really seem to have any suspects. He talked about Smaug being a wolf but isn't trying to make any sort of case against him. He brought up Housenuts at the start of the game and I think he might have even been onto something, but then doesn't ever talk about him again.

and then there is the 'ugh' post

am I %100 certain that he is a wolf? no. in fact, I'm quite certain that I've misread Legend multiple times in turbos, but I want him dead

I voted pvn earlier, then changed it to DannyKGB who I wanna wagon more (a lot of people expressed interest in this, but then none actually followed me when I changed).

Now I will vote pvn because I prefer his lynch over The_GF, whom I defended in my earlier post.

Lemme put it this way:

Danny -> goofy -> pvn -> coordi

so you think he's a wolf here too then?

*********** MOD NOTE ***************

FYI

There are quite a few people that haven't posted in a while. Tomorrow I start taking action (By subbing out and mod-kills)

A.Ertbjerg and lsc1022 have expressed interest in subbing back in ( i like the idea of them creating new accounts to start posting from)

Keanu my take on the following post incriminates her further.

If GF read the books should be extremely likely to remember that Sauron left her alone if she can remember stuff like "Her Ladyship". So the entire premise of something not sitting well with her over time is complete bull because she'd remember that Sauron and Shelob left each other alone. It looks like a clear case where she fabricates a reason to say Drontier isn't signaling Shelob (which isn't even the case presented, it's that he is Shelob) so she can get some villa points with a dissenting opinion of Drontier is lynched. Note that she doesnt say anything about not lynching Drontier even though the issue has been sitting with her, she just says meh I dont think he's signaling Shelob.

WOLF WOLF WOLF WOLF WOLF WOLF

Yes, unless he comes out with a very good explanation, because obviously it could be real life issues that prevents him from posting and staying too active.

But now is not the time to even consider wagoning him, because he doesn't appear to be here and it's only 50 minutes before EOD.. I'm gonna focus on him along with few others that I think should be posting more tomorrow.

ok, I'm going to play poker and will check back before night hits

if pvn claims or something please vote for legend and if legend claims then vote for riverfish

I have no read on him whatsoever and he hasn't contributed. I wouldn't oppose his lynch, if that's what you're asking. However, pvn has been more active and is more likely to have spewed some villa/wolf in his posts in case he is actually a wolf, while we wouldn't get much out of a lucky guess on Scrubbo.

Results oriented? He claimed seer.

Actually I was working on a d1 wagon analysis and saw your name. I don't think we've looked closely enough at that. Now that we know both housenuts and TEPM are villagers, there should be some useful info.

I know I haven't been the best villager so far in this game, but I do work hard later (this feels awful to say because I said the exact same thing in my last game as wolf, but c'est la vie).

we need a strong 2nd wagon,
not the gf.

I never suspected that there actually was a case on legend
he could be a good lynch too

thoughts on semper? i havent reread him but does he have like 10 posts total?