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05-25-2018 , 07:58 PM
A reminder of the picks:

Player3p board gamesYouth/YA authorsDocumentariesWays to killSporting Record90s TV showsVacation citiesSerial killersMarvel HeroesAncient CivsFast FoodAlcoholic drinksRock keyboardists
eyebooger----------Bill WatersonJesus CampBurning at the stakeTest avg of Donald BradmanSeinfeldBarcelonaPedro LópezStormMayaArby'sDark & StormyKeith Emerson
BorninabinCarcasonne----------A class dividedKnife in throatAshima Shiraishi climbing a 5.14d at 13 y/oPokemonVeniceJohn LynchBlack PantherSumerianMcDonaldsFruit LiqoursRichard Wright
rtspursTrivial pursuitRoald Dahl----------CrucifixionWayne Gretzky 2,857 total pointsFather TedParisJeffrey DahmerSpider-ManGreeksKFCIPARay Manzerac
filthyverminAxis and alliesJK RowlingThe Cove----------Kobe avoids jail for rapeBuffy x2Landaa GiraavaruObamaWolverineNez perceMother NatureChampagneBo Koster
xander biscuitsScrabbleRL StineNight and FogThrow them into a volcano----------Twin PeaksRomeThe Green River KillerCaptain MarvelAztecsTaco BellBeerRick Wakeman
True NorthAgricolaMark TwainOJ: Made In AmericaBury them aliveNolan Ryan strikes out 5,714 batters----------New YorkJack the RipperThorPersiaChick-fil-ATequilaTony Banks
JMurder3GloomhavenCS LewisI Am Not Your NegroKicked in balls by beautiful woman until they fall off a cliffCal Ripken's 2,632 games streakSimpsons----------Tsutomo MiyazakiDeadpoolRomeFive GuysRumDerek Sherinian
BiteMeFishPandemicShel SilversteinTim's VermeerStrangulationWilt scores 100Fresh PrincePhuket----------Professor XChinaIn-n-OutVodkaJordan Rudess
eleanor60Cards against humanityJohn GreenMan on WireIce StabbingEngland world cup final goals and hattrickFriendsMarrakechHarold Shipman----------OlmecChipotleSojuElton John
e_holleEmpire BuilderFranklin W DixonIn Search of the Trojan WarInduce suicideJoe DiMaggio's 56 game hitting streakThe X-FilesSaint-TropezZodiacHulk----------A&WWineJerry Lee Lewis
iraisetoomuchCatanTolkienHow to Survive a PlagueDrowningCy Young 511 winsSaturday Night LiveCancunLuis GaravitoCaptain AmericaKush----------WhiskeyDave Greenfield
D1iabol1calDominionAA MilneThe King of KongScaphismPhelps 23 Olympic goldsNewsRadioLondonTed BundyIron ManEgyptQdoba----------Jon Lord
CrimsonFoxArkham HorrorDr SeussRush: Beyond the Lighted StageDecapitationKareem Abdul Jabbar 38,387 pointsFrasierOrlandoEd GeinRocket RaccoonIndus ValleyWendy'sCider----------


How the scoring works:

The main judge's top rank gets 48, decreasing by 4 for each subsequent rank.

The four secondary judges' top rank gets 12, decreasing by 1 for each subsequent rank.


In-thread game: Predict the top 3 drafters in order.


Also in-thread game: Name the top 3 most polarising draft picks (ie one judge ranked it very high and another ranked it very low).


Anyone can play the above games, and comments/critique is open to all in every aspect of this thread, aside from the judges revealing their ranks prematurely.
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05-25-2018 , 08:01 PM
Zomg!!
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05-25-2018 , 08:04 PM
Hype
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05-25-2018 , 08:04 PM
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05-25-2018 , 08:07 PM
Polarising draft picks: whatever categories filthy is judging
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05-25-2018 , 08:08 PM
But at a guess, I'll say Seinfeld.
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05-25-2018 , 08:08 PM
London maybe
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05-25-2018 , 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by D1iabol1cal
Polarising draft picks: whatever categories filthy is judging
fyi

Player3-player board gamesWriters of youth/YA booksDocumentariesSatisfying ways to kill an enemySporting Record90s TV showsVacation citiesSerial killersMarvel Hero/HeroinesAncient CivilisationsFast Food ChainsAlcoholic drinksRock keyboardistsLeft to judge
eyebooger        0
Borninabin        0
rtspurs        0
filthyvermin        0
xander biscuits        0
True North        0
JMurder3        0
BiteMeFish        0
eleanor60        0
e_holle        0
iraisetoomuch        0
D1iabol1cal        0
CrimsonFox        Judge1
Left to judge0000000000001 
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05-25-2018 , 08:18 PM
Okay, seeing as D1iab is the only one to attempt the games, let's start with his category!

Alcohawlic Dranks

This was noted as a trainwreck early; partly my fault for rushing the start of the game, partly D1iab's for picking such a vague category, and partly everyone else for making such terrible picks!
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05-25-2018 , 08:20 PM
Quote:
In-thread game: Predict the top 3 drafters in order.
D1iab
spurs
eb

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Also in-thread game: Name the top 3 most polarising draft picks (ie one judge ranked it very high and another ranked it very low).
Beer
Buried Alive
Dr. Seuss

I don't feel confident about any of these things, but don't feel like thinking about them.
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05-25-2018 , 08:21 PM
Polarizing: beer
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05-25-2018 , 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by rtspurs
Okay, seeing as D1iab is the only one to attempt the games, let's start with his category!

Alcohawlic Dranks

This was noted as a trainwreck early; partly my fault for rushing the start of the game, partly D1iab's for picking such a vague category, and partly everyone else for making such terrible picks!
Heh yep, was a real group effort!
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05-25-2018 , 08:22 PM
So where are the big points going in this category and what did our main judge have to say...

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Originally Posted by D1iabol1cal
So, this category turned out to be a bit of an abortion. I guess a good portion of the blame has to fall on me for picking a poorly thought out category, but I still did clarify what I was looking for in the game thread. I didn't think it would be this confusing for people. Also, there was a clue was in the title – it was “alcoholic drinks”, not “types of alcohol”. Anyway, let’s plough on.



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12. Soju – I’m not totally sure what this even is. I had to google it, and after reading the description, I’m pretty sure I’ve had it once and hated it. It’s pretty shocking to me that this is the highest selling spirit in the world. Lolkoreans, I guess.


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11. Vodka – Great for cocktails, but drinking it straight is just awful. All you had to do was chuck in a bit of OJ and that probably would’ve been good enough for a podium finish in this crowd.


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10. Champagne – The best thing I can say about this is that it’s pretty fun to pop the cork. I’m not baller enough to be sipping Dom with models on a yacht in the Caribbean, so maybe I’m missing out on its true greatness.


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9. Fruit Liqueur – Another one that is great in a ton of cocktails but sucks to drink straight. It’s just way too sweet for my liking – almost like drinking shots of undiluted cordial.


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8. Wine – At first I thought this would be a lock to finish dead last (barring a lolfilthy), but you guys somehow managed to find 4 more that were worse. I understand it’s historical significance, but that’s not really what I was looking for here. Still, I do actually drink wine on occasion, so I can at least tolerate it.


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7. Rum – Not a big fan tbh. Once again, it’s just too sweet for my tastes. But at least you can actually get drunk without having to drink too much of it, so it’s got that going for it.


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6. Tequila – Good party drink for sure, but it’s not something I would usually drink otherwise. If it’s on the menu, I won’t turn it down, but no way would it ever be my first choice. However, I have had lots of great nights drinking tequila, so that’s a big point in it’s favour.


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5. IPA – This is a case of being too clever for your own good. I drink beer more than anything else by a pretty wide margin, but I just don’t drink IPAs unless I’m offered. I am a simpleton when it comes to beer, and I have absolutely no reason to pay the exorbitant costs that they charge for this stuff.


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4. Cider – I have developed a bit of a taste for cider over the last couple of years or so. I don’t drink it that often, but I do get a hankering for it every now and then, and it goes down well.


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3. Whiskey – Finally, a spirit that I actually appreciate drinking straight. Whether it’s doing shots or just having a quiet one in front of the telly, it's nice and versatile. Also, if I ever decide to drink myself to death Leaving Las Vegas-style, this would be doing most of the legwork.


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2. Beer – I can’t help it if I like generic piss. I even drank enough of it to score myself a free VB vending machine! Just a great all-rounder that is good in all situations. It is the pizza of the alcohol world.


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1. Dark & Stormy – Well, this came as a complete shock that somebody would take this. Not the first thing that would spring to most people's minds when they think of cocktails, but this is probably my favourite one. A bit weird because I am not a rum fan, but the ginger beer dilutes the sweetness of the rum just enough to get the flavour balance just right.

I can only assume I must’ve mentioned how much I liked these on this forum previously, otherwise this was an amazing soul read. And bonus points for being one of the few people to properly understand the category.
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05-25-2018 , 08:23 PM
Excited to see how well shots of rum do

ETA: not bad!
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05-25-2018 , 08:23 PM
Spurs
Diab
irtm
Top three
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05-25-2018 , 08:24 PM
Looks like eyebooger used some inside knowledge here
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05-25-2018 , 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by eyebooger
Name Selection EB Score IBD Score WN Score Median Total
akson White Russian 16 6 16 16 58
Booker Wolfbox Harvey Wallbanger 5 8 2 5 31
cbec Vodka Martini - Shaken, not stirred 11 13 3 11 62
D1iab Dark and Stormy 10 12 15 12 57
enty Jack&Coke 6 17 6 6 57
filthy kalua and cream 14 4 13 13 48
fnord_too tanq and tonic 15 10 4 10 47
ibavly sex on the beach 1 7 5 5 63
IBeSingin Sangria 7 11 10 10 33
iversonian irish coffee 4 3 14 4 50
Jabonator Rum & Coke 12 15 7 12 59
kcaw rum and coke 12 15 7 12 64
kioshk Bloody Mary 2 1 1 1 43
kokiri mojito 8 9 12 9 43
nichp Mudslide 17 5 11 11 51
plubius Paloma 3 14 9 9 49
Willi German Chocolate Cake 9 2 17 9 35
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05-25-2018 , 08:28 PM
And our secondary judges:

iraisetoomuch says:

I understand the criteria that Diab is going to use to judge this, and I’ll make that a part of it as well, but I’m going to go my own route a bit also.

1 Wine: Wine wins it all. If you’re willing to look, there’s a wine for everyone. From a deep flavorful Cab Franc to a light crisp Chard, you’ve got options. Pairs well with many types of food, socially acceptable, ages well, and can be easy drinking. The best part about wine is that most people can't tell the difference between expensive wine and cheap wine. Everyone is an expert if they want to be.

2
Beer: Beer has it all from a flavor standpoint. You want coffee? Chocolate? Peanut butter? No flavor? Whiskey flavored beer? Bacon flavored beer? It’s all there. Points for that. But beer is generally worse for your health than wine, and had a certain negative stigma with many. Points for variety, affordability, ease of access, overall volume.

3
Vodka: This is where I will disagree with Diab on how we are ranking these things. Vodka on it’s own is very blah. Neutral, marginal, and just generally ok. But when mixed soda, juices, and other liquor you can make some great drinks, that don’t offend the pallet too much. That’s what most people are looking for when they buy Vodka. This coupled with the fact that even cheap Vodka still tastes reasonable makes it a strong option.

4 Whiskey: Despite my personal love for Whiskey, I know it can be harsh to some people. I’m going to temper my personal love for Whiskey with the general consensus to lack of excellence and leave this at number 4.

5 Rum: Easy drinking, a variety of flavors from light to dark (ugh), cheap, expensive, and everything in between. Rum is good, and even better during the summer outside. It is the basis for many mixed drinks, and has great sales volume across the country and world.

6 IPAs: I love IPAs. Complex flavor, rich notes, but they are often strong and powerful. As far as general appeal, they fail pretty greatly. There is a strong ‘love “em or hate ‘em” mentality. As a result, they cannot ever top the list.

7
Tequila:
On it’s own, Tequila is pretty bad. Esp with lower quality tequilas. But when mixed into a Margerita, it gets significantly better. Add a touch of salt and you’re set for the pool. Loses points for actual taste, gains points for ease of drinking of summer time fun.

8 Cider: Cider is fine. I haven’t nothing against cider, and if I was given one for free, I’d drink it. But I will never order a cider, never seek it out, and would likely trade with someone to drink most anything else that is available.

9 Champagne: As a drink it self, it’s pretty sweet (I know it varies), light, often a touch fruity, and very easy going. When mixed 1:1 with Vodka (it was a weird New Years, don’t ask) it can be one hell of a drink and will knock you on your ass promptly. But aside from ‘Special Occasions’ I have literally never bought Champagne and I probably never will. I believe that the only reason that the Champagne industry still survives is that it has become common place at special events because it’s cheap and easy to drink.

10 Soju: Soju loses points here mostly because just have never tried it. It sort of falls victim to obscurity, but I’m sure it might be a good drink. Seems like its essentially unregulated Vodka.

11 Fruit Liquors: Fruit liquors have their place in the world. On their own, they are far too sweet, and I would never sip on them, but they can be used to mix. If this was a ‘essential thing you might need in a bar’ this would rank higher but here it just falls short.

12 Dark and Stormy: No, just no. This drink is everything that I do not like about drinks. Ginger beer is terrible, dark rum is bleh, and lime should not go into a mixed drink. Do not even get me started.
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05-25-2018 , 08:29 PM
Oh, it was that 3-headed goat game! Forgot all about that.
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05-25-2018 , 08:33 PM
That's a first and last for Dark & Stormy from our first two judges:

PlayerAlcoholic drinksD1iabol1caliraisetoomucheyeboogerrtspursfilthyverminTotal
xander biscuitsBeer4411   55
eyeboogerDark & Stormy481   49
iraisetoomuchWhiskey409   49
CrimsonFoxCider365   41
rtspursIPA327   39
True NorthTequila286   34
JMurder3Rum248   32
e_holleWine2012   32
BorninabinFruit Liqours162   18
BiteMeFishVodka810   18
filthyverminChampagne124   16
eleanor60Soju43   7
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05-25-2018 , 08:35 PM
Next up to judge is eyebooger with a predictable top rank and a hot take:

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These picks were ****ing terrible.

12 – Soju
11 – Cider
10 – Champagne
9 – Vodka
8 – Rum
7 – Fruit liquors
6 – IPA
5 – Wine
4 – Whiskey
3 – Tequila
2 – Beer
1 – Dark N Stormy
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05-25-2018 , 08:35 PM
I'll go with "Dark & Stormy" for that polarizing draft pick game.
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05-25-2018 , 08:38 PM
I agree with rtspurs' ranks almost completely:

1IPAI'm just ranking these in the order I would most likely want them straight at any given time. IPA is my drink of choice.
2WhiskeyWhiskey is the only spirit I drink straight these days apart from rare occasions. I often have it with coke so maybe should rank it lower but the other picks are mostly terrible so it can go here.
3BeerBeer, beer, beer. I love beer. I love certain types of beer. Many types. Not the types most people do though unfortunately, so it suffers as a result.
4WinePick something more specific and this could jump to second. I enjoy a nice red at times. This pick suffers from including rubbish vinagery white wine I've had too many bad nights on.
5CiderI never drank cider until I lived in Australia, must have been the weather. It can be nice with ice while sitting in the sun. I don't live anywhere near the sun at the moment.
6Dark & StormyNever had it. Sounds nice though.
7ChampagneIf I wasn't a borderline alcoholic I would say we are going into the territory of drinks that I might refuse if offered. I've enjoyed this more being poured over my head after winning big matches than ever drinking it.
8Fruit LiqoursSure, this is easier to drink than what is below it as its probably only 20% alcohol.
9SojuI've had this in Asia, and I've had sake too. I can't differentiate between the two now. I remember they were both very drinkable when I was already drunk and rotten when I was sober.
10RumPick Captain Morgan and coke/fanta and this shoots right up the list. This ranks lowly as I don't really drink straight spirits anymore, and unfortunately I've tasted Bundaberg rum so ya, its pretty bad.
11VodkaVodka straight? Puh
12TequilaMy arch enemy. I had a litre of this when I was 20 and went to work the next morning where I was supposed to be training in a new employee. I spent the first 4 hours puking in the toilet and she had the worst first day ever trying to run a bookies shop on her own. Even the smell of the stuff makes me gag now.
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05-25-2018 , 08:41 PM
TIL spurs used to live in Australia.
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05-25-2018 , 08:42 PM
Gin is my arch nemesis. Got super sick off it as a teenager and haven't been able to drink it since.
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