Primary Judge - rtspurs

Secondary Judges - Carl_Spackler, derwipok & SuqAta8

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Primary Judge – rtspurs

Here is where I mention all of the awesome apex predators you didn't pick...

To be honest, you guys got the top ones I think.

Some undrafted would have done well in certain aspects but would have fallen down in other areas (Megalodon, African wild dog, wolf, Arcticknight's old lady, jaguar, etc.)


I ranked these apex predators in 7 different areas. Then I combined the rankings to give a total score.


Here is the breakdown for each area:


Hunting success

How good are these guys at catching their prey?

Rank	Predator	Hunting success
1	Killer Whale	As successful as they want to be from what I can tell
2	Saltwater Crocodile	Couldn't find any data for this but they can survive up to 3 years without eating so they don't really care
3	Komodo Dragon	90% successful for smaller animals like deer and pigs, but much less successful killing larger prey like water buffalo.
4	Great White Shark	Somewhere between 40-80% depending who you believe
5	Peregrine Falcon	47% "perch to perch"
6	Lion	17-30% depending on whether alone or as a group
7	Golden Eagle	20%
8	Polar Bear	10%
9	Tiger	5-10% (Siberian tiger between 38-54%)
10	T-Rex	There is some debate if the T-Rex was even a true predator or more of a scavenger. It was not well equipped to catch fast and nimble prey.

Longevity

How long has this species been a successful predator?

Rank	Predator	Longevity
1	Great White Shark	At least 16 million years
2	Killer Whale	~10 million years ago diverged from other oceanic dolphins
3	Saltwater Crocodile	Species diverged between 6-12 million years ago
4	Peregrine Falcon	5-8 million years ago they diverged from other falcons
5	Golden Eagle	Can't find an estimate for golden eagles but eagle-like birds have been around at least 12 million years. I'm going to estimate golden eagles diverged 5 million years ago.
6	Komodo Dragon	4 million years ago diverged from other beasts
7	Lion	2.1 million years ago diverged from snow leopard
8	Tiger	1.8 million years
9	T-Rex	Probably lasted a couple of million years but is the only predator on this list with a definite end-date so has to rank low
10	Polar Bear	400,000 years ago diverged from brown bears

Pound for pound

Who would win in a fight?

Rank	Predator	Pound for pound
1	T-Rex	Could have weighed up to 14,000kg. Was by far the largest carnivore in its environment so was probably a real Billy Big Balls. Most powerful bite of any land animal ever.
2	Killer Whale	Can weigh up to 10,000kg! Beats up and eats sharks and whales for fun
3	Saltwater Crocodile	Can weigh up to 1500kg. Not a guy you want to have a fight with. Can hold its own against other apex predators in its territory, including sharks and big cats. Pretty lethargic though.
4	Great White Shark	Can weigh up to 1900kg but usually much less. Big sticks of muscle. Absolute units. Not to be trifled with. Except for orcas, they can do what they want.
5	Polar Bear	Can weigh up to 700kg. Very strong. Goes for seals, reindeer and even small whales so these guys don't **** around.
6	Tiger	Can weigh up to 388kg. Can destroy animals bigger than itself, but doesn't want the hassle if a big boy fights back.
7	Lion	Can weigh up to 250kg. Goes for bigass prey often, kills zebras, buffalo, wildebeest, giraffes, and even elephants and hippos on occasion. Kills other predators like leopards, cheetahs and hyenas to weed out the competition
8	Komodo Dragon	Can weigh more than 100kg. Takes on prey larger than itself with its immense stength and toxic venom but doesn't have much competition in the wild. Does have reinforced armoured scales, kinda like chainmail, which would be good in a fight.
9	Golden Eagle	Weighing roughly 4kg, uses a combination of speed and power to hunt. Although less agile, would beat a peregrine falcon in a fight as he his almost as fast and much more powerful. Many reports of the golden eagle being killed by big cats, bears, other eagles, wolverines, etc. as it competes with other carnivores.
10	Peregrine Falcon	Can weigh up to 1.5kg but usually much less. Only hunts small birds or rodents. Its all about speed and agility with this predator. With a top recorded speed of 389kph, which is pretty badass, it is the fastest animal around.

Live for

How long are they terrorizing their neighbourhoods for?

Rank	Predator	Live for
1	Killer Whale	Similar to humans
2	Saltwater Crocodile	70 years and probably more
3	Great White Shark	70 years or more
4	Golden Eagle	46 years recorded in captivity, more than 32y recorded in the wild, but average lifespan would be much less.
5.5	Komodo Dragon	Up to 30 years
5.5	T-Rex	Up to 30 years
7	Polar Bear	Rarely past 25y
8	Lion	Average 10-15y wild, 20-25y captive.
9	Tiger	Average 10-15y wild, 16-20y captive, 26y longest recorded captive.
10	Peregrine Falcon	12 to 15 years

Badass rating

Subjective badass rating

Rank	Predator	Badass rating
1	T-Rex	99
2	Great White Shark	95
3	Saltwater Crocodile	92
4	Lion	90
5	Komodo Dragon	86
6	Tiger	85
7	Killer Whale	80
8	Golden Eagle	75
9	Peregrine Falcon	70
10	Polar Bear	60

Majestic rating

Subjective majestic rating

Rank	Predator	Majestic rating
1	Tiger	95
2	Lion	90
3	Killer Whale	85
4	Polar Bear	80
5	Peregrine Falcon	75
6	Golden Eagle	70
7	T-Rex	50
8	Saltwater Crocodile	45
9	Komodo Dragon	40
10	Great White Shark	30

Adaptability

How adaptable is this animal?

Rank	Predator	Adaptability
1	Killer Whale	Not as good on land or in the air as some of the others, but untouchable in the ocean! Easily the smartest animal picked, which means they use tactics and strategise their hunts.
2	Peregrine Falcon	Successful on every continent anywhere there is something high to dive off like mountains, valleys, cliffs and now skyscrapers.
3	Komodo Dragon	Short bursts of speed on land and can climb trees. Can sense dead meat many kilometres away with its tongue, which is pretty badass. Often tears the meat off a carcass with its mouth but can swallow a whole goat without chewing if necessary, which saves time if he has a hot date.
4	Tiger	Comfortable on land and in the water. Stalks prey and ambushes but apparently gives up easy when the going gets tough.
5	Saltwater Crocodile	Good swimmers. Like the tropical climate. Very fast in the water or attacking from the edge of the water but not up to much on land.
6	Great White Shark	Eats lots of stuff, sometimes stuff it can't even digest, so pretty stupid animal. Strikes from below and drags its prey down to the seabed. Flip him upside down and he's immobilized, which orcas have been witnessed doing.
7	Lion	Not a fan of the water. Can hunt alone or in groups. Stalks prey. Apparently give up easy if they are spotted by the prey so farmers sometimes paint eyes on the back of their cattle!
8	Polar Bear	They hunt where the ice meets the water, rarely catching seals on open land or in open water, so not very adaptable.
9	Golden Eagle	Likes cliffs and other high places but unlike the peregrine falcon, they struggle in human populated areas.
10	T-Rex	Had stupid little arms that constantly embarrassed him. Had feathers but couldn't fly. I'd say these guys fell over a lot. Also, they dead.

All that combined gives us total ranks.

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Secondary Judge – Carl_Spackler

If you enjoyed judging or picking in this category, you might like the Youtube channel TierZoo, in which the creator evaluates various animal “builds” as if they were character builds in a rpg. The cat tier list is a good place to start

These are all very cool animals and the differences between them are slight. Here is my attempt at a ranking.

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Secondary Judge – derwipok

Top undrafted: Megalodon, would have ranked it #2 probably. In general I’m surprised that there was only 1 extinct species drafted.

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Awesome write up, spurs.

Current Group A scores through 3 Categories:

Tilted by the electricity rankings. It is not an invention. "Harnessing" it is at least three inventions.


Could I have drafted "scientific thought" or "trial and error" and gotten credit for ~ everything in the world?

Primary Judge - filthyvermin

Secondary Judges - xander biscuits, D1iabol1cal & aaronk56

Primary Judge – filthyvermin

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some great actors imo . any of them would have been 4th. psh would have been 3rd

philip seymore hoffman
heath ledger
cate blanchet
denzel washington
john cazale
james earl jones
ralph fiennes
jimmy stewart
richard burton
michael Fassbender

Oh, look, D1iab is still winning.

Secondary Judge – xander biscuits

Here are some thoughts about the actors drafted in order of the draft table. Rankings table is below:

I’ve seen Sidney Poitier in exactly 2 movies and I don’t remember him in either of them. Not a good sign

Robert De Niro is such a great actor. He’s in the centre of incredible movies and he’s capable of playing a load of different character types convincingly. One of the all time greats.

Katharine Hepburn is good in every movie I’ve seen her in, but that’s only 3. Also because in each movie she wasn’t “the star” she was the co-star. She acted very well, but I can’t really separate how convincing she was from how well she worked with Humphrey Bogart/Cary Grant. Still a very solid actor and a definite stand out of her day.

Jack Nicholson is good and is in a bunch of good movies. He’s got a bit of range, but he’s mostly the same sort of guy (at least in the movies I’ve seen ). Very good actor but doesn’t seem like the greatest of picks seeing how deep this category was.

DDL is pretty much the GOAT actor. You believe that he is the person he is portraying. He doesn’t seem like he’s acting, just being. Enormous range and has the explosive power and extreme subtlety not to mention My Left Foot.

I know who Robert Guillaume is but I’ve not seen him star in anything and he doesn’t even do anything interesting/important in what I’ve seen him in. Sorry he’s not going to score particularly well.

Leonardo DiCaprio is a very good actor. I’ve seen him in a bunch of stuff which is good and he’s a lot of the reason that it was good. His performance in The Aviator was the only think I liked about the movie. When you question range you only have to think back to The Beach, Romeo + Juliet and What’s Eating Gilbert Grape to realise that he’s got it all.

Meryl Steep is an actor that I’ve only seen 6 movies from which seems criminal. However I’ve seen some great stuff with her in, including an outright starring role in Florence Foster Jenkins. I wasn’t in love with that movie but her performance was great. Her top performance has to be in the Deer Hunter though, playing the love interest of war veterans really convincingly. Mreyl Streep is a great actor and I should probably see more stuff with her in.

Marlon is a really elite actor. His best movie is The Godfather but if you want to see his best performance then I think you’ve got to look at A Streetcar Named Desire and On the Waterfront. I’ve not seen too much from him so I haven’t seen too much in terms of range unless you want to all the later shenanigans he got up to as range. The Godfather does show some range and I’ve convinced he’s got range only I’m yet to see it.

I’ve seen plenty of Tom Hanks and he’s great in everything but he seems to be always playing a nice guy. Apparently he’s a nice guy in real life too and does this make him the most high profile actor who can only play themselves? Some variations on the nice guy: Charlie Wilson’s War (Corrupt Politician who becomes a nice guy by the end), The Terminal (Foreign nice guy), Road to Perdition (Gangster, but a nice one), The Circle (Not your typical nice guy, but a forgettable supporting performance). Conclusion is that he’s a great actor but lacking in range.

Secondary Judge – D1iabol1cal

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Scores table for Actor/Actress:

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Going to grab some lunch. Might reveal another couple categories while I eat...

Happy to take requests on any categories I have all the rankings for.

Wow, DeNiro ended up being quite polarizing

i feel like printing press at #1 needs at least a brief writeup why

and to justify why i had eagle as #1, its the textbook example always used to describe biological magnification in ecosystems

oh and we still dont know if the t rex was ever actually an apex predator

edit: saw that spurs already included that- fantastic writeup spurs

Ya know, a supercomputer in your pocket, with access to every bit of information in the entire world, at your fingertips, somehow ranked as the worst invention of all.

Makes total sense