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03-09-2023 , 05:20 PM
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I see. Imo village peeks are +EV and wolf peeks should be avoided
I realize the seer is going to peek wolves but just on % a village peek has a higher chance of being accurate.
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03-09-2023 , 05:24 PM
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Eh more I think about it no peeks could work too. Works better if everyone is on board though
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03-09-2023 , 05:34 PM
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I see. Imo village peeks are +EV and wolf peeks should be avoided
Sure but even then, non seer villagers would leave incorrect peeks ~25% of the time in a 13er on d1. Which means 2-3 villagers will get eliminated from seer contention on d1 on average, and much more by d2
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03-09-2023 , 05:40 PM
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Yeah I hear you..something to think about more for sure
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03-09-2023 , 06:22 PM
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Has either strat ever been run with longevity on here, as far as you're aware? (or other WW places you're aware of)?
And yeah, makes total sense to me.

How good the players on the given site are at identifying seer tone/play by other factors and hiding or replicating it on the other side being the big variable. (Not swinging it away from optimal strategy). And peek selection. And differences in field sizes.
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03-09-2023 , 06:34 PM
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Has either strat ever been run with longevity on here, as far as you're aware? (or other WW places you're aware of)?
And yeah, makes total sense to me.

How good the players on the given site are at identifying seer tone/play by other factors and hiding or replicating it on the other side being the big variable. (Not swinging it away from optimal strategy). And peek selection. And differences in field sizes.
laying seer cover as a vanilla villager has always been a thing on this site as long as I have been playing (roughly since 2009).

That being said, I never lay seer cover and I never leave peeks as the seer and it seem to have worked great. However I have a weird meta where I never get lunched and never get NKed so that may be why.
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03-09-2023 , 06:36 PM
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With how popular WW/Mafia has been, there's gotta be solid work on that question. Might dive in tomorrow


I like what it says about the difficulties of getting everyone to agree on anything and the creativity/fun/factor. Way for the best this way.

There's probably a term for sth becoming that big a part of gameplay, even though it shouldn't even exist by GTO.
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03-09-2023 , 06:47 PM
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****. ^ Officially away from posting on forums for an eternity, I guess.
Chaos Kass deserves to exist, though.
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03-10-2023 , 04:44 AM
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I think turbos are different for sure.

But over on MU dependign on size you can effectitively create a good POE via SHCs and protect seer best by everyone picking peeks

It has benefit of:
- preventing good social-seer hunting
- preventing confusion
- clearing portions of the game

The number of autos you can create this way is really high. The stats on MU where this strat is dominant is a 60% town win rate
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