all right, done spamming the thread. gn and gl vigs

sun tzu

I hope redd is telling the truth and the wovles never kill him and just use him as a free extra nk

what happened to the wilverine wagon?

wilverine

Okay, so this is notably town. I've been looking at the wilv/xhad EoD since I was out for most of it and I think grant has some awesomely town foresight here. Examine the following:

This argument is **** for about a dozen reasons. When I reference "THAT POST" in the future know I am talking about this one.

What is leveling? I don't know the term.

A valid question. Notable reason that THAT POST was **** one. Xhad was voting wilv when he said it. This is prominent because scum loves to link themselves to people they know are going to flip town and he didn't have jack on the guy til EoD D1. It's a prominently trumped up read.

THAT POST reason two also fits well here. I don't do that whole "pick the scum in pairs/teams" thing. I don't know how it got so popular (prob scum driven) but it is a terrible way to scumhunt because it allows for shoddy clears.

Still don't know what leveling means. I'm interested in seeing it.

Not xhad/wilv together imo. Xhad is clearly trying to tie himself to wilv as I'm going to keep showing here. Now that sun flipped is WN town?

That thing I said about tying people together fits in well here. I'd love to hear the reasoning on this since you have WN linked into various people in the two above.

YUPP.

Reason three THAT POST is ****. I don't feel the need to really explain how terrible this is or how horribly it fits with THAT POST but I'm gonna while using an amusing metaphor.

If we can tie the tails of two cats together and drape them over a banister then what effectively will happen is due to the butterfly effect a man will die somewhere in French Polynesia. Now I know that doesn't make sense but follow me here. One of the cats belongs to Schrodinger. Also, I'd really like it if you killed it plz.

I know guys, groundbreaking stuff here.

Worse implies still town here, almost explicitly states it by the premise of this response.

I have not.

I'm on page 101 and have no clue how you currently didn't lynch Xhad. I'll keep reading up.

So. Redds dead tonight. We probably lynch darthe tomorrow.

If the games not over, what's next? Opinions on things anyone? I'd particularly like to hear from you redd

If you can make a good xhad case and convince me, I might white knight you. But right now the winning on you. You find a wolf or you die.

Leveling is him basically saying "I'm not a wolf because that would be stupid of me to do as a wolf"

The wim is on you*

lol, I only skimmed but it only took about five seconds to find horrible fail logic

saying "you were a strong townread yesterday but are worse now" does not in any way imply that I still think you're a townread. keep flailing.

because they decided to lynch scum instead.

Darthe is probably the lynch tomorrow

If the game isn't over gamer is a scum

WN is probably one shot vig if my logic is accurate

If after that it still isn't over and gamer proves to be a villager, wn might be an sk. But I find that unlikely because the only possible iterations of sk come with three wolves as well, and I'm fairly certain that isn't the case

feh, I can't believe I've been misreading that this whole time

all possible setups are 3-mafia at this point:

guaranteed roleblocker too

So its probably darthe/gamer and wn might be sk

fwiw, I think leveling would be if I said: "I wouldn't do that as a wolf because it would make me look like an obvious wolf." If we were talking about some play that is dumb as town, but smart as wolf if and only if I could get away with it, I'd understand the argument and certainly would have been less indignant about it.

In the case where wilv is town, it was more like "I wouldn't do that as a wolf because wtf is the point even." Zero people have ever answered that question even when asked point-blank when they were trying to lynch me for it.

How is this remotely a valid line of reasoning? Reason THAT POST sucks number four. Common scum tactic #73, claim something as defense and later use it as offfense. You said that for you to be wolf wilv had to be aka defensive linking, and now say that nearly your entire read on me/gamer is predicated on wilv being wolf, aka offensive linking. The two are entirely mutually exclusive arguments so long as you know your own alignment and thus can't be simultaneously argued.

^That alone is more reasoning for a lynch than I have seen about anyone currently alive in game.

And ****. Without Xhad I don't think this Sun Tzu lynch would have happened at all. That puts a huge damper on my read of him which is no bueno atm.

How did this come about? I, without any reasoning that I have seen on thread or in your reads, have popped up CONSTANTLY as a wolf read of yours in the past 2 dozen pages or so. It's like you suddenly took your read on me and arbitrarily reversed it.

Wut? I slept at night, woke up and had an impromptu visit from the GF (who isn't so happy that I have been online for the past half hour MQing instead of cuddling). Can't help that life happens.

Still hate this kind of thing but for like the third time I'll ask why?

Redd would be a terrible lynch and I've been saying that since D1. I'm mainly quoting this post to point out how good it looks on WN and that he has a good point about Xhad.

NO. NO NONONONO. Just stahp.

This is slightly good on WN. The timing is a bit off for it to get him incredible town cred (a bit early imo) but it's still not a risk I see scum taking much.

=/ post game we are going to have a talk about these. Also this post looks fake, mainly because you've taken three people and made every potential combo out of them. It's lazy lynch pushing.

Hmm. Don't see how anyone could doubt Red. Shouldn't have been necessary anyhow.

IMO you look okay during that EOD. I didn't see resisting a lynch in that instance as scummy, especially if this is a 2 scum game where they would likely need the cover once they realized their teammate was going down.

You may have it with this. I think you have them listed in order from town to scum too though to be fair I am a bit biased.

btw I was going to say I was still hoping for gamer/wilv for the epic "I told you so," but the wall of terrible logic/cherrypicks + vanishing is 100% scum play in my experience

This is base logic. How do we remotely tie in to this?

but then that last post is good so idk