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nvm, days are short and he seems to have vanished:

It's not just the way he wagoned you. It's the way he talked up your wagon, which was in the lead, while not voting only to jump on right when it looked like your lynch might happen. Given the daycycle I'd realistically lynch him just for that and consider you cleared (barring SK) if he flips scum.

As a bonus, most of his other posts are "reads" of the form "lol this guy is a wolf unless he's not lol"

I pulled the reasoning up cause grant's MQ was missing.

Re the bolded: How did it look like Hax was getting lynched there ?

The wilv vote comes like 8 and 1/2 hours before EOD. And I believe that puts Hax at like 3 votes ?

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07-11-2014 , 11:09 PM

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i have trouble seeing why the switch (or the "contradiction") is wolfy though, or at least, I wouldn't worry about it specifically unless and until wilv flips wolf

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07-11-2014 , 11:10 PM

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i read xhad's last minute quarrrr vote as a reaction to my wilv vote. is that not right?

I would not think so and regardless it doesn't matter.

He was advocating a wilv lynch during EOD. For him to jump ship and try and flip the wagons to 6-4 last second is fishy to say the least.

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07-11-2014 , 11:10 PM

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Why are you automatically acting as though we're lynching wilv today wn?

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07-11-2014 , 11:10 PM

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Oh right rustle is still a villager

That was a thing too

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07-11-2014 , 11:11 PM

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speaking of aids

votes don't even count right now

Oh noes :O

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07-11-2014 , 11:11 PM

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I'm not automatically acting as though we're lynching wilv. The phrase "unless and until" does not imply that we're lynching wilv.

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07-11-2014 , 11:12 PM

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Also kruze if that is your real name if I was a wolf why would I bring up the fact that it was probably v/v wagons, derail the easy coasted mislynch then hop on quarrr?

Answer: I wouldn't

+eV wolf play for me is bus my partner.

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07-11-2014 , 11:13 PM

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i have trouble seeing why the switch (or the "contradiction") is wolfy though, or at least, I wouldn't worry about it specifically unless and until wilv flips wolf

Again just to emphasize.

He wants wilv lynched ---> wagons 5-4 Quarr-Wilv ---> WN votes wilv to tie the wagons at 5 ----> Xhad votes Quarr at 9:01 which would make wagons 6-4 Quarr and save the person he wanted lynch.

You follow WN?

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07-11-2014 , 11:13 PM

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i read xhad's last minute quarrrr vote as a reaction to my wilv vote. is that not right?

I already quoted the post I was responding to

I'm pretty amazed that you guys think I would put more effort into a bus than anyone else would put into quarts lynch

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07-11-2014 , 11:13 PM

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I'm not automatically acting as though we're lynchi

ng wilv. The phrase "unless and until" does not imply that we're lynching wilv.

It implies that he is immediately your next target.

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07-11-2014 , 11:15 PM

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Lolol I pretty much singlehandedly made his wagon. You're the one who flung bs to stop it

It's not unheard of for wolves to open up the voting on another wolf early in the game/day, with the expectation that the wagon won't really take off. That way they can take credit for "I was on x from the very start!"

So accidentally starting a wagon doesn't count for much.

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07-11-2014 , 11:15 PM

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It implies that he is immediately your next target.

It's also not uncommon for a vig to resolve the competing wagon. Espicially at a flip when a villa is lunched.

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07-11-2014 , 11:16 PM

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I also forgot to mention but me and Darthe's mindmeld EOD was pretty fantastic

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07-11-2014 , 11:17 PM

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monstr: no, it absolutely does not. Neither as a matter of fact (I have no idea who I want to lynch), nor as a matter of logic or semantics. You're inferring it from thin air.

Gamer: I follow, it's just my experience that this stuff gets interpreted as "wolfy" every time but rarely is very correlated to people actually being a wolf, and I think he's villagery enough on like every other metric that I don't think it means much. I would upgrade it to maybe meaning something if wilv is a wolf, which is the only thing that "unless and until wilv flips wolf" actually means

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07-11-2014 , 11:17 PM

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Like why go to all that trouble for towncred only to chuck it away when my wilv vote makes me look good regardless of the flip? This is moon logic

And even on the moon, obv lynch wilv first

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07-11-2014 , 11:19 PM

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I did more than vote. Go reread. And then look at gamer doubt casting me all day

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07-11-2014 , 11:20 PM

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That put me in the lead in votes iirc.

Seems reasonable to think that vote makes me a very realistic lynch possibility. Even if still semi-early in the day.

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07-11-2014 , 11:20 PM

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chance TTT randed everyone villa so he could sit back and enjoy the show?

40%

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07-11-2014 , 11:20 PM

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I understand what you're saying. But for something to even be interpreted as wolfy means there's a realistic possibility that a wolf would do something like.

I think basing it on the past is never good idea and saying "well the last few times it happened it was a villa so this time probably is as well" can only lead to trouble.

I prefer to focus on the game at hand and take each one independently of past games.

imo xhad has not been villagery and and thus his EOD only rises my suspicions toward him

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07-11-2014 , 11:21 PM

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I did more than vote. Go reread. And then look at gamer doubt casting me all day

Also pointing the finger at me because I'm pointing it at you looks real good. Please keep it up

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07-11-2014 , 11:23 PM

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That put me in the lead in votes iirc.

Seems reasonable to think that vote makes me a very realistic lynch possibility. Even if still semi-early in the day.

If this was a latter day phase I'd agree but there's almost always a CFD last hour/last half hour D1 and votes fluctuate a lot more D1.

It's realistic to think you could be lynched yeah anyone could be, but not realistic to think you could be lynched because you're lead wagon with over 8 hours of playing.

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07-11-2014 , 11:24 PM

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Random aside. If I die relatively soon, you can pretty much guarantee someone on my early wagon was a wolf. Be it Wilv/Redd/Darthe/Batm.

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07-11-2014 , 11:26 PM

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At that point in time, I'm the most likely lynch for d1. Don't argue this, it;s fact.

I get what you're saying that votes fluctuate often, but up till that point, with the posts and votes that had been made, which was what was available at the time, his point is correct. Wilv's vote makes me the most likely lynch at that point in time.

Not even sure what we're arguing here. But I'm right.

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