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[Game Thread] 2/5 Top Tier V+ WW Two-Fold C9++ Setup 15er [Game Thread] 2/5 Top Tier V+ WW Two-Fold C9++ Setup 15er

02-08-2015 , 12:01 PM
Votes from post 1910 to post 2150
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3 DWetzel biggerboat (16), younguns87 (32), fnord_too (67)
1 unvote Gadarene (44)
6 not voting DWetzel (0), grant2 (31), Mor_Tilt4mePls (18), mutigers (11), Sili (7), Telcontar (2)
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02-08-2015 , 02:01 PM
Votes from post 1910 to post 2151
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VotesLynchVoters
3 DWetzel biggerboat (16), younguns87 (32), fnord_too (67)
1 unvote Gadarene (44)
6 not voting DWetzel (0), grant2 (31), Mor_Tilt4mePls (18), mutigers (11), Sili (7), Telcontar (2)
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02-08-2015 , 02:43 PM
why do I HAVE to be bad bigger
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02-08-2015 , 03:01 PM
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3 DWetzel biggerboat (16), younguns87 (33), fnord_too (67)
1 unvote Gadarene (44)
6 not voting DWetzel (0), grant2 (31), Mor_Tilt4mePls (18), mutigers (11), Sili (7), Telcontar (2)
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02-08-2015 , 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by biggerboat
I can't find anything in any of telco's posts that makes him clear for me.
Well I did call Benneh for the mafia team yesterday

And Dwetzel was giving me a bit of a grilling yesterday, assuming he's going to come back as something evil. Although if it's a wolf, that won't make any difference
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02-08-2015 , 04:01 PM
Votes from post 1910 to post 2155
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VotesLynchVoters
3 DWetzel biggerboat (16), younguns87 (33), fnord_too (67)
1 unvote Gadarene (44)
6 not voting DWetzel (0), grant2 (31), Mor_Tilt4mePls (18), mutigers (11), Sili (7), Telcontar (3)
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02-08-2015 , 04:31 PM
I'm too tired to do anything today - Going to watch golf for a couple of hours
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02-08-2015 , 04:47 PM
will do some work in a bit
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02-08-2015 , 05:01 PM
Votes from post 1910 to post 2158
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VotesLynchVoters
3 DWetzel biggerboat (16), younguns87 (33), fnord_too (67)
1 unvote Gadarene (45)
6 not voting DWetzel (0), grant2 (31), Mor_Tilt4mePls (18), mutigers (11), Sili (7), Telcontar (4)
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02-08-2015 , 06:01 PM
Votes from post 1910 to post 2159
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VotesLynchVoters
3 DWetzel biggerboat (16), younguns87 (33), fnord_too (67)
1 unvote Gadarene (45)
6 not voting DWetzel (0), grant2 (31), Mor_Tilt4mePls (18), mutigers (11), Sili (7), Telcontar (4)
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02-08-2015 , 06:28 PM
okay, going to go back through and take a look at stuff now

focus will be on people's interactions with Yak/Dwetz, cory, benneh, and Nolder
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02-08-2015 , 06:38 PM
btw: fnord, i'm trusting your mechanical wizardry for the proposition that a full seer, a full cop, a full stalker, and a full angel are all part of a potential villa rand under this setup given what we've seen from the wolfia side
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02-08-2015 , 07:01 PM
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3 DWetzel biggerboat (16), younguns87 (33), fnord_too (67)
1 unvote Gadarene (47)
6 not voting DWetzel (0), grant2 (31), Mor_Tilt4mePls (18), mutigers (11), Sili (7), Telcontar (4)
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02-08-2015 , 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Gadarene
btw: fnord, i'm trusting your mechanical wizardry for the proposition that a full seer, a full cop, a full stalker, and a full angel are all part of a potential villa rand under this setup given what we've seen from the wolfia side
Grant posted what the rand consistent with all the claims would be:

A tier 1 mafia team would mean:

TTTTTCC

A tier 2 wolf team would mean:

TTTCCDI

If we assume the current hard claims are true

This is all consistent since everyone else has claimed vanilla.
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02-08-2015 , 07:15 PM
if you actually have a second role, it would have to be a wolf role, and it would push the wolves to tier 3.
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02-08-2015 , 07:22 PM
pp. 1-2

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Originally Posted by Nolder
Hi everyone. Second time around, gonna make it even better than the first.
So let's get things started...

Some haven't checked in yet.
Could be they're waiting to consult with teammates.
Picking a name out of that hat and...

Grant
slightly good for grant

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Originally Posted by benneh
Making a read that biggerboat is HUMAN because I want it to be true
i think bigger is >>rand villa by virtue of his own posts; benneh saying this doesn't mean much either way

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Originally Posted by Nolder
I think it's a good place to start.
Is it not possible one of these people could just be holding off to get into contact with teammates?

Maybe we should see how Grant enters. Maybe he'll enter at the same time as a couple other people. Maybe I hit gold.

Or maybe not. We'll see.
more Nolder talking about grant before grant has posted

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Originally Posted by benneh
Fwiw, I don't like a vote on grant anyway

From what I hear he is a pretty good villager (although Wolfy) and a pretty slanky wolf. I know it's a random vote for you, but someone may come in later and see a single Wolfy grant post and see that he has a wagon and all of a sudden we lose out on a valuable villager because you wanted a rand.org entrance
i guess slightly bad for grant, to the extent benneh would want to be protective of his mafia bros and frame them in a way that would make people want to give them the benefit of the doubt

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Originally Posted by TheFixedATM!
Monte pushing someone who I think feels PURE is less wolfy for Monte and more AIDSy but I'm hesistant to defend/insult Monte simultaneously this game since he deserves a pat on the tush for winning last game

Fran feels wolfy tho
muti has an uncountered claim, but this cements him as non-wolf absent that

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Originally Posted by TheFixedATM!
Oh **** I forgot Sili was in the game

Ty for reminder
on the one hand, cory goes super-hard at Sili all d1, which seems really dumb if they're wolfmates even given existing meta between them

on the other hand, i'd forgotten that cory started this way before Sili began posting -- i.e., his tunneling Sili-as-wolfia didn't begin based on something putative that he could observe from Sili's actual posts

so it could have been a way to get out ahead of stuff by leveraging their meta and hoping to spew Sili clearer if/when cory died first

that only works if it doesn't really look later on d1 like cory actually was pushing Sili with the intention of getting him lynched, so i'll keep an eye out for that; my recollection is that he does indeed back off of calling for Sili's lynch as night approaches and then is loathe to resume calling Sili a wolf the next day (instead leaning heavily on his line of Sili-is-terrible-and-I-hate-him, which is obviously role independent)

i'm kind of talking myself into it making sense for cory and Sili to be wolfbros, but i'll see how things look as i keep going

I will also point out that literally nothing about Sili's posts this weekend are remotely game-solvey, engaged, or villagery

then again, muti peeked Sili not-wolf last night, which means that he's only the last wolf if the last wolf is a godfather (which is possible if the wolves are Tier 3)

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Originally Posted by benneh


I just like putting pressure on you early, Yakbro

But you always seem to have a wolfy early d1 pop-in, so I'll just assume it is role-neutral for you for now

Now read the thread and confirm my vote on Nolder is elitepls
I want to quote this again and laugh not because of the Yakbro reference, but because of benneh's elite way of giving Yak advice in plain sight on how to wolf while doing the whole "you're naturally wolfy, so people shouldn't think you're a wolf for your wolfy posting" thing

i will be pretty ****ing stunned if DWetz does not flip mafia tonight (though his disappearing act should make that a fait accompli)

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Originally Posted by Yakmelk
Hard so far, not really enough to get a clue. This is what I got for now. Upon reread I kind of found benneh to be uncomfortably confident but he did that last game I played with him and he turned out to be v, on the other hand I have no clue of his wolf game if he played one in POG yet. In random sub order, middle is neutral/notposted;

benneh
Nolder
fnord_too
FranFran95

Gadarene
grant2
Mor_Tilt4MePls
Sili
Telcontar
TheBrokenATM!
younguns87

TheFixedATM!
Montecore

biggerboat
assuming Yak is mafia, I don't think there's a ton to be gleaned from this since it's so early

i'd be inclined to say it's slightly good for bigger maybe? remember that there are only two mafia members in the main pack, and odds are Yak's partner is in the middle, non-posting/null tell group

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Originally Posted by younguns87
Montecore is prolly a villager

The fixedatm is prolly not

Interested to hear why yakmelk feels like Fran is a villager
very early cory wolf read makes younguns >>rand to be non-wolf imo

also fnord tracked younguns to not visit anyone, and at some point we should probably be thinking of how to apply fnord's track results to things, keeping in mind that if younguns is mafia, fnord would not have been able to see him deliver the nightkill

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Originally Posted by biggerboat
lol, catching up I was gonna to slap a vote on yak but now it would just look wolfy

but so what

yakmilk
i think this is good for bigger to be non-mafia

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Originally Posted by Yakmelk
Read his p1 posts, seem villagery ? I always feel like fran is wolfy when he posts but his content really isnt that wolfy, only played in fran villa games iirc though. He was also a prime subject for mislynches those games because of his posting style, only a few regulars indeed recognized it for what it was. Not making that error again. I feel similar wrt montecore, like he's always wolfy in the games I've read, but haven't really played a lot with him. I dont like his tone or something, not sure what it is that always irks me about montecore. I feel like he's more on the wolfy part of the scale of his always wolfy posting.


There will once be a day where I can just ease my way into a game on d1 without directly being labeled a wolf. Mark my words.
the stuff directed at Fran/muti would make me slightly worried about muti were it not for his claim

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheFixedATM!
yg i'm going to be blunt:

i'm a consensus villager already for raisins(?) - maybe it's my charm, my smile, my dashing good looks, or my amazing riverdancing skills that stun all into submission

so i'm just going to roll with that because i get it a lot

you disagree - but you seem super content with the fact that everybody else would be wrong fypov

if this is the opinion you are going to have you need to follow up on it - i will not take a "cory's wolfy" and then i "well, there's nothing really to talk about" afterwards

be a man or gtfo
doesn't really sound like w/w interaction

Quote:
Originally Posted by Montecore
Stop worrying about cory; even if he's a wolf, the other faction is probably going to want to kill him anyway so don't waste your time. Obviously this also applies to Gad.
prescience itt

Quote:
Originally Posted by benneh
Yak, you are probably struggling bc you tried to put together a full reads list already

too early and too irrelevant for that IMO

just go with your gut and find someone thats wolfy and expound on that

if you feel someone is villagery say so

we just need to lynch 1 wolf today. you're not going to solve the game 100 posts in so just be you and dont worry about getting everyone pinned yet
more elite advice on how not to be so wolfy; if DWetz flips mafia, this will be one of my favorite posts in the game

Quote:
Originally Posted by Telcontar
Going to give yakmelk a 1 day pass as he was hilariously awful in the only other game we played together on day 1, but then grew into a very strong villager from day 2 onwards.
idk

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Originally Posted by TheFixedATM!
hi telco
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Originally Posted by Telcontar
Ah, a So you are indeed Cory then ?
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Originally Posted by TheFixedATM!
OUTED

Spoiler:
w/w interaction? meh

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Originally Posted by TheFixedATM!
FWIW Sili has been active today on a different forum and has a considerable volume tell as a wolf

I mean if he were Myrologue it would be understandable sinec Myrologue is low volume in both roles and that's perfectly okay

but he's Sili this game so it's completely unacceptable
see my earlier post; cory definitely rides this train a lot for the first half or so of the day, this time bringing out-of-forum tells to bear

guess it depends on how persuasive he thought this would be to others and whether he'd be able to derail the wagon if needed

more in a bit
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02-08-2015 , 07:28 PM
Gad,

One thing Tom told me about Sili when we were talking a few weeks ago: he can't really fake animosity at all. There was apparently a game where tom/sili were w/w, and tom was trying to coach him on sounding natural in the fight they were having in thread and eventually gave up.

So if you see any fake sounding anger from sili then that would not be good. I don't recall any, but I am not going to be doing any re reading today. My stomach has been upset since the sponge bob movie where I ate way to much crappy movie popcorn. Or maybe it was the movie itself that turned it, it was pretty bad except for Antonio Banderas, who did OK with what he had to work with.
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02-08-2015 , 07:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by fnord_too
if you actually have a second role, it would have to be a wolf role, and it would push the wolves to tier 3.
i do not
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02-08-2015 , 07:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by fnord_too
Gad,

One thing Tom told me about Sili when we were talking a few weeks ago: he can't really fake animosity at all. There was apparently a game where tom/sili were w/w, and tom was trying to coach him on sounding natural in the fight they were having in thread and eventually gave up.

So if you see any fake sounding anger from sili then that would not be good. I don't recall any, but I am not going to be doing any re reading today. My stomach has been upset since the sponge bob movie where I ate way to much crappy movie popcorn. Or maybe it was the movie itself that turned it, it was pretty bad except for Antonio Banderas, who did OK with what he had to work with.


there's definitely some anger in his d2 imbroglio with cory, so i'll see how that sounds
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02-08-2015 , 07:38 PM
you know if I don't post today I probably get modkilled and you should have a second wagon, right?
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02-08-2015 , 07:39 PM
never mind
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