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good intentions don't make an offensive game ok

miss pog offends people. that is the definition of offensive.

is the main argument something like "if you're offended that's on you, because our intent is not to offend"?

as a hairy bastard the game of werewolf offends me greatly
and as a fatso i am also deeply offended by walrus compeitions
also, as an idiot with no thoughts of my own i am terribly vexed by sheep games

please see that they all cease immediately!

tyvm

02-04-2017 , 10:09 PM

#178

SuqAta8

Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 21,875

'I am attracted to this woman'

'You sexist pig'

This is essentially what this is boiling down to. You guys might as well take to twitter and start talking to these girls who are posing in their lingerie and being all sexy. I think theyre conscious of how theyre displaying themselves. And if not; how is it a bad thing for people to discuss who they agree upon is an attractive person?

As someone who legitimately experiences objectification fairly consistently, i dont really see a problem with this contest being run.

And if domer was banned for his post, then lol

02-04-2017 , 10:10 PM

#179

Gamer Dude

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 72off

as someone who gets offended quite easily, I am offended when people are offended

I ask that you please stop at once

tyia

02-04-2017 , 10:14 PM

#180

Crossnerd

quite smart as well

Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 39,121

Quote:

Originally Posted by 72off

and it's a celebration of women, not objectification
you're not a fan of celebrating women? sad!

^ This is bull****.

Lol this thread that its even needed, much less the content. I've tried to keep out of the mud in this, but GOD DAMN.

02-04-2017 , 10:22 PM

#181

VarianceMinefield

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It should not be run. It is offensive, devoid of any redeeming qualities. There is no valuable discussion that can come from some guys from SE rating womans looks on POG.

02-04-2017 , 10:22 PM

#182

JMurder3

not god, probably jebus

Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 52,931

Until this year I don't think anyone raised any issues with this contest, & some of the most outspoken advocates for its removal were avid participants.

I don't think it's particularly surprising that not everyone is willing to make the same change of opinion at the same time, whether it is the correct opinion or not.

02-04-2017 , 10:23 PM

#183

VarianceMinefield

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SuqAta8

'I am attracted to this woman'

'You sexist pig'

This is essentially what this is boiling down to. You guys might as well take to twitter and start talking to these girls who are posing in their lingerie and being all sexy. I think theyre conscious of how theyre displaying themselves. And if not; how is it a bad thing for people to discuss who they agree upon is an attractive person?

As someone who legitimately experiences objectification fairly consistently, i dont really see a problem with this contest being run.

And if domer was banned for his post, then lol

Ya they should take this type of discussion to twitter. That is where they will find like minded people who find value in rating woman on looks with other guys

02-04-2017 , 10:24 PM

#184

Birdman10687

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Quote:

Originally Posted by biggerboat

Ok, i was staying out of it but shhesh. This post is complete bull****. You and a handful of others have gone out of your way to alienate people that dont agree with you.

So it sound like you agree with my post, you just think I am hypocritical. That may, perhaps, be correct. But I am not the topic of this thread, Miss POG is.

Moreover there is a huge difference between the content of the posts of individual posters and a forum-endorsed activity. I don't think anyone here has, as yet, suggested we eliminate all discussions of women's appearance from individual posts.

02-04-2017 , 10:25 PM

#185

Crossnerd

quite smart as well

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JMurder3

some of the most outspoken advocates for its removal were avid participants.

This again. *SIGH*

02-04-2017 , 10:26 PM

#186

72off

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wow thank goodness VMF is here said no one ever

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gamer Dude

as someone who gets offended quite easily, I am offended when people are offended

I ask that you please stop at once

tyia

will do my best!

02-04-2017 , 10:27 PM

#187

VarianceMinefield

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Its not a valid argument/relevant to mention bans or past participation. That has already been explained. Sometimes social pressure/mistakes happen.

02-04-2017 , 10:28 PM

#188

JMurder3

not god, probably jebus

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Crossnerd

This again. *SIGH*

In not saying it's a bad thing. I'm saying your opinion changed, & that's a wonderful thing. People with intractable opinions are difficult to deal with.

People should always be rethinking & reevaluating their opinions. It's just not surprising that not everyone's opinion has changed, & that doesn't necessarily make people stupid or other unkind things, just like you weren't stupid a couple years ago...just evolving.

02-04-2017 , 10:29 PM

#189

VarianceMinefield

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 72off

wow thank goodness VMF is here said no one ever

The only people who want this to be run are posters from SE and gimmicks. It is clearly not wanted here and the participation shows it.

02-04-2017 , 10:30 PM

#190

filthyvermin

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when women say "this game objectifying women makes me feel bad" the proper response is to stop the game objectifying women. how is that even argued?!?!?

the proper response isn't "MB shouldn't start the thread" or "you shouldn't be offended. it's just harmless fun" or "crossnerd is a drama queen" or "people these days are too sensitive" or "my fun and my right to objectify women is more important than any harm the game causes"

02-04-2017 , 10:30 PM

#191

lenC

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Originally Posted by JMurder3

Yep. You have people that have been vegan a week telling others not only hey look at me, I am a vegan but demanding that they join. Ludicrous.

02-04-2017 , 10:31 PM

#192

Crossnerd

quite smart as well

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No, I do think my participating in those threads was pretty stupid, JMurder. But I take your point.

02-04-2017 , 10:31 PM

#193

SuqAta8

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Quote:

Originally Posted by VarianceMinefield

Ya they should take this type of discussion to twitter. That is where they will find like minded people who find value in rating woman on looks with other guys

Not other people; the nominees themselves.

What is the purpose of some of these girls posing semi nude if not for attention?

02-04-2017 , 10:34 PM

#194

Birdman10687

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Outed bigot GabeTheBabe weighs in on the misogynistic character of Miss POG. Offers opinion that surprises no one

02-04-2017 , 10:34 PM

#195

VarianceMinefield

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SuqAta8

Not other people; the nominees themselves.

What is the purpose of some of these girls posing semi nude if not for attention?

I am not sure. It is not really relevant to whether this game should be run here.

Just cause someone posted a picture on the internet does not mean they want people on random forums to be rating them on their looks.