dogs are people too

huh, i dont know what you are really getting at. in the tv industry, a womans looks is more important than a mans looks. i dont really know if thats in dispute. they get used as props more on shows etc.

anyway its not a sidetrack relevant to this subject. i think ive made myself clear and no one has really disagreed with person of the year rather than ms pog

A sort-of analogous thing for men is their job/income

Woman has no job but is supported by her boyfriend/husband? Perfectly normal

Man has no job but is supported by his girlfriend/wife? Worthless leech

That's maybe a slight exaggeration but that type of thing is a much stronger pressure for men than for women

It would hardly be hateful. Not once is any hate expressed other than the butthurt part at the end

After seeing lalaland twice I think Emma Stone should be a lock to win this

Whatever the voting metric is

that doesn't make any sense, filthy is a beautiful human and he hasn't caught the big break yet...

Anyway i addressed your post and showed how you can modify it with religion to make it fine

And i think my answer was reasonable and the onus should be on you to show it not reasonable before you resume arguing

Yes, I'm on the side of not wanting the thread, but calling it hate speech is ridiculous

Of course it is, thats why its completely unacceptable to say it to black people and gay people.

And also to Mulsims and women, which you seem wholly oblivious to, even with literally the clearest of demonstrations.

Why not give someone else a shot?

I said it was hateful rhetoric, not hate speech. It is hateful rhetoric. If you read that post in a vacuum with any of those other groups in place of male/female, many people would find it disgusting. The Muslim/Christian version reads Islamaphobic, without question.

The black/white version is racist.

The gay/straight version is homophobic.

The Muslim/Christian version is Islamaphobic.

The male/female version is sexist.

3 of them aren't allowed. For some reason, just one is. This is not neuroscience.

What if this were a country music forum and blacks were offended?

I am arriving at the same place as yesterday. You banning Ms POG is the same as you banning hollywood, tv and pop music.

Anorexic girl:

By definition of evolution, people are attracted to people who are healthy. Anorexic girl is not healthy. Why should I care about her more than the guy who roids himself to ballcancer?

By racist content posted in the country music forum?

IT IS NIGHT!

72off has been lynched.

He was:

I haven't gotten that far yet

Hollywood changes, bro.

Being gay used to be a career death sentence, for instance.

TV has rules. Do you think it doesn't? Seriously?

And yeah, pop music is a meat market.

But afaik, we are posting in POG, not making hit records. I don't think it excuses our own behaviour that someone else behaves badly. Do you accept that as a principle in life?

I think this is a really bad road to go down. I don't think you've really tried to understand the concepts of body image we're discussing and it really shows in your posting. It feels like you think you're landing killer blows with diamond-hard logic but tbh it actually seems you don't really get what anyone's talking about.

Is that his first ban in 13 years?

In making these reasonable arguments it isn't my goal for you to stop posting i just wanted to take you up on your challenge

I hope you know that.

I don't really think I am behaving badly when consuming hollywood or participating in ms pog.


Well obviously I am not getting what you are trying to sell. It seems to me like domer is on the money. If he's not, well not everyone can be as woke as you(in very recent history), I don't know what to tell you.

The issue is you provided no context to any of them. I provided the context for the Muslim one and it simply is not Islamophobic.

Now. I will grant that miss pog is sexist by its very nature. But that doesn't make karemins post invalid.

The context is that post.

I played fairly and used your groups within the context of that post, which was the challenge.

The result was an Islamaphobic post.

karmarein's post in it's original form was a sexist post.

Its time for you to give someone else a turn. Imho, you failed at the challenge. You haven't given any arguments as to why its ok other than suggesting different scenarios that are not the same or denying that when I use groups you name in the proposed context the results aren't unsavory. I've dissected that with you as much as I care to.

I went back and read your original post and i am still correct. I'm going to sleep and i won't rehash it tomorrow. Gn

72off, I didn't ban you. I have no idea why you're sending me PMs?