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02-06-2017 , 02:10 AM
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02-06-2017 , 02:10 AM
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Originally Posted by domer2
You can't be serious.

Do people here like not remember stuff or what?

Crossnerd has attacked women mercilessly on this forum, like legit borderline evil, vindictive, mouth-agape stuff. I recall very clearly CN telling someone on 2p2 to kill themselves. Getting banned on 2p2 is DIFFICULT, especially with some of the gentle souls we've had as mods, and yet CN has managed it multiple times. If I were to list people who were the most anti-female on this forum, it'd be a Sophie's Choice between Crossnerd and McAvoy.

Not sure what biochemicals you're working with this week, but re-check the warning labels buddy, because this self-absorbed troll is literally the LAST PERSON ON 2P2 you should refer to as sincere. If anything, the posts should be a starting point what isn't sincere.
why do you keep bringing up peoples history?

you cast one of the worse snap votes ive ever seen in a WW game. 2 week long game and you voted first post. Terrible!
02-06-2017 , 02:10 AM
I believe locking this thread, and creating an official Poll thread is the answer that this discussion can continue in.

Let the community decide. Public Poll to avoid anonymous multi account votes.


What should the poll question/answers be?

First Draft:

-Should Ms POG continue as usual.
[ ] Yes
[ ] No
02-06-2017 , 02:10 AM
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Originally Posted by VarianceMinefield
think you will probably get banned for this.
ZERO chance, btw
02-06-2017 , 02:11 AM
Cn does seemingly hate any woman who isn't an ardent feminist (derwipoks girl) or who she feels threatened by (sgt rj)

oh also kcaws wife who i think she called a whore once

and also tries to ingratiate herself and assume a woman should take her side by calling her chicka or something like that
02-06-2017 , 02:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Monkey Banana
Please address the substance or get ready to enjoy more time without POG.
even more of a knob than you were before you came back.

great.
02-06-2017 , 02:12 AM
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Originally Posted by DarkMagus
Nobody is arguing to ban the thread on all of 2p2. This is not a goshdarn freedom of speech issue
umm, of course it is.
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The women's forum is different because it's called a women's forum and was created specifically to give women a place to get away from all the broing out
It doesn't mean what goes on there is any less sexist than what is going on here, or at least what XN and her cohorts are claiming is sexist.
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The fact that poker and 2+2 are already male-dominated spaces and so we should not make any effort to include women is circular reasoning
I never said we should not make an effort to include women. POG has made efforts to include women. We've had female mods, female roles in games ((and not just the latest controversial one) and a very supportive and friendly attitude towards the women who have tried to make this place home.
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The fact that there are female-dominated spaces elsewhere in life is irrelevant, the same issues apply
Uhh, no its not. But keep pretending.
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Having some spaces for broing out and some spaces for whatever it is women do amongst themselves (I imagine pillow fights and make-out practicing) is OK. Having almost everywhere be like that, and calling people fascists for wanting to tone it down, is lame
Were not talking about everywhere. We are talking about one ****ing thread.

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Ultimately this is not a democracy and it's up to the owners of the site, who from what I understand leave most content decisions to the mods, so really it's up to the mods. All you can say is some people want a site where broing out happens all over the place, and some people would rather it be contained to relevant forums, and there's not really a logical argument to determine who's right. It's up to the mods which people they want to make happy.
Your exaggeration of this 'broing out' saturating the forum is hilarious.


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I would argue that the people who seriously think that moving a thread from one forum to another is the same thing as aggression and coercion and fascism are the bat**** crazy ones
Keep trolling.

this is a SOCIETY (see: forum). It has a government (see: moderators and administrators). How we want our moderators governing society is just as much a free speech and free assembly issue as any national, state, local, or housing association issue.

Just because its an internet forum doesn't mean this isn't about rights and liberties or important in anyway (or obviously this thread wouldn't have so much ****ing action).
02-06-2017 , 02:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Puzzles

First Draft:

-Should Ms POG continue as usual.
[ ] Yes
[ ] No
[ ] Cats
02-06-2017 , 02:13 AM
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Originally Posted by pwnsall
Cn does seemingly hate any woman who isn't an ardent feminist (derwipoks girl) or who she feels threatened by (sgt rj)

oh also kcaws wife who i think she called a whore once

and also tries to ingratiate herself and assume a woman should take her side by calling her chicka or something like that
how you feel like this is an okay post in this thread, is beyond me
02-06-2017 , 02:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Puzzles
I believe locking this thread, and creating an official Poll thread is the answer that this discussion can continue in.

Let the community decide. Public Poll to avoid anonymous multi account votes.


What should the poll question/answers be?

First Draft:

-Should Ms POG continue as usual.
[ ] Yes
[ ] No
I disagree. There are obviously people who would be very upset with a decision imposed by mods or a majority so I think it's better to have dialogue.
02-06-2017 , 02:14 AM
Some of you people are baffling
02-06-2017 , 02:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Crossnerd
ZERO chance, btw
every post where we make them answer actual questions of why they think this is a legitimate thread to run, they directly are correlated to saying something banworthy
02-06-2017 , 02:14 AM
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Originally Posted by benneh
i genuinely didn't know what changed your opinion
I feel like my reasons have all been posted in this thread.

As far as this whole thing goes, my motivations have been repeatedly questioned. I have the right to evolve as a being and alter my opinions over time, and I shouldn't have to defend that or expose private parts of my life in order to explain it.

My opinions have changed. That's it.

And now I'm trying to change others'.
02-06-2017 , 02:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Monkey Banana
I disagree. There are obviously people who would be very upset with a decision imposed by mods or a majority so I think it's better to have dialogue.
How will the final result be determined if not for a poll?

Who yells the loudest?
02-06-2017 , 02:15 AM
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Originally Posted by gambit8888
And MB obv wants Ms PoG gone
Monkey Banana is trolling, and very badly at that.
02-06-2017 , 02:15 AM
How about

Should Ms POG continue as usual.
[ ] strong yes
[ ] weak yes
[ ] weak no
[ ] strong no

That way we can differentiate between people who would be upset enough to leave/reduce participation in this forum, and people who kind of have an opinion but wouldn't affect their participation

My vote would be weak no
02-06-2017 , 02:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Crossnerd
ZERO chance, btw
and why would i be? get a ****ing grip on life

also, tell him to take deal
Reek will obv do whatever you say
02-06-2017 , 02:16 AM
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Originally Posted by VarianceMinefield
why do you keep bringing up peoples history?

you cast one of the worse snap votes ive ever seen in a WW game. 2 week long game and you voted first post. Terrible!
lmao
02-06-2017 , 02:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Puzzles
How will the final result be determined if not for a poll?

Who yells the loudest?
trial by stone
02-06-2017 , 02:17 AM
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Originally Posted by 72off
and why would i be? get a ****ing grip on life

also, tell him to take deal
Reek will obv do whatever you say
you said you think cross opinion on the game changed, because getting old for women sucks, but for men it is awesome

it was completely sexist and a personal insult to cross
02-06-2017 , 02:17 AM
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Originally Posted by karmarein
Keep trolling.

this is a SOCIETY (see: forum). It has a government (see: moderators and administrators). How we want our moderators governing society is just as much a free speech and free assembly issue as any national, state, local, or housing association issue.

Just because its an internet forum doesn't mean this isn't about rights and liberties or important in anyway (or obviously this thread wouldn't have so much ****ing action).
Why the **** do you keep saying I'm trolling? Those are my honest opinions.
02-06-2017 , 02:17 AM
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Originally Posted by VarianceMinefield
how you feel like this is an okay post in this thread, is beyond me
meh, fair enough i guess

i try to stay away but they always pull me back in
02-06-2017 , 02:18 AM
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Originally Posted by gambit8888
Some of you people are baffling
a lot of silly things have been posted itt
02-06-2017 , 02:18 AM
If I understand this correctly, VMF really has Henrik rustled, to the point that he wants to make a deal

wow lol
02-06-2017 , 02:19 AM
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Originally Posted by benneh
don't be so passive aggressive. i genuinely didn't know what changed your opinion

what do you mean "Those were the conditions"

that doesn't really make sense in the context i asked
i posted in the current miss pog thread. and i posted just like i did all the other years, nominating whichever girl. i was ready for miss pog battle. but when crossnerd said "hey, this is bull****" i listened. i thought about it, and i realized i agreed.

women who aren't sexually desirable struggle to be recognized by us as a society.

women who are sexually desirable struggle to be recognized for anything other than their value as a **** hole.

miss pog isn't JUST about sexual desirability, but it is too big a part of the contest.

just like a woman's value isn't all about her sexual desirability, but it's too big a part of a woman's value in our society.

as a society we are getting better. we need to keep getting better. it'd be nice if our little corner of the forum, pog, was a place where we didn't have a bunch of threads on the front page comparing women's value based largely on their sexual desirability

      
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