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02-05-2017 , 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
Oh man. Tchaz I'm sorry i don't know more about your life and where you live.
check your privilege, white boy
02-05-2017 , 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by tchaz
check your privilege, white boy
Lol now it is you that is being ignorant
02-06-2017 , 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by DarkMagus
All you're doing is talking about women. By this logic literally any thread on any topic can become a "game" just by having a vote at the end on whose posts you like the most.
What's your point? There exist plenty of games that are stupidly simple and easy to play. Miss POG is one of them.

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oh the old "you can't be offended by anything because i can make up stuff to be offended by"
Never said you couldn't be offended. That doesn't mean we need to bubblewrap the forum for them. People can get offended by pretty much anything. The question is whether their offense is reasonable given the circumstances and is our reaction to their offense equally reasonable.

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if you don't see why a thread about men rating women might legitimately make some women a little uncomfortable, then i guess end of discussion because i have no idea how else to explain it
I see why a lot of things can make people uncomfortable. You clearly have an issue with selective reading. I've already explained that there are posts about hard drug use on this forum that make me uncomfortable. Doesn't mean I think we should ban posting about it.

Part of life is developing a thicker skin. The other part is not being a douche to other people who don't have one.

Once again, no one is saying anything sexist, misogynistic, derogatory, or negative about women in the thread. No one is being a douche about it. If there were guys being douches about it and trolling the women and laughing about their imperfections that would be another thing, and infractions and possible banning may be appropriate.

The women I work with talk about guys' dicks all the time. They pass around their phones and show each other their dick picks and giggle and make fun of them. Is that an uncomfortable situation for a guy? Yeah, it is. And they aren't being classy about it at all (unlike the guys playing Miss POG). But that doesn't mean the girls shouldn't be able to chitchat among themselves about guys. When the conversation gets weird I, like a normal person, walk away. I don't run to HR like a little bitch and get everyone in trouble, make the whole work environment extremely uncomfortable, and force everyone to walk on egg shells 40 hours a week.


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There's a big difference between controversial rules, mod decisions, etc... and the subject matter of the "game" itself being controversial.
Ehh, not really. Something just as offensive can happen in a game as it can with a thread title. Because that's what this all about. A thread title. You all have a problem with seeing the word 'Miss POG' on the thread listing. No one is making you click on it, read it, or play in it. But God forbid you see the words 'Miss POG' and its like your eyes have been gauged out.


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Cause it's on the front page every time someone posts in it?

Like let's say you're a woman who wants to play at a board game club, but the club has mostly men

On the wall there is a bunch of stuff about board games, but also a poster for a "discussing and ranking women" group

If you tell someone the poster bothers you, and that it seems out of place for a board game club, they call you an SJW fascist and that you should just ignore the poster

Is this really what you consider a welcoming environment?
Well, let's see. First, you start by answering your own question:

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It's not just about one thread, it's about the fact that this kind of stuff appears constantly in male-dominated spaces. Like yeah a woman can ignore one thread, or one slightly sexist joke here and there, but it gets tiring having to do that every single place you go. It's the constant barrage of this kind of stuff. It's easier for women to just ignore places where that kind of stuff is allowed. If you want to advocate renaming this to "Men's Puzzles and Other Games", then fine, but don't pretend this isn't something that repels some women from participating.

Personally the thread doesn't really bother me, it won't make me stop posting here. But if it does make other people leave, that would bother me.
It's shocking that a male dominant society might have discussions that males enjoy. Shocking. This makes the forum more welcoming to men at the expense of thin-skinned women.

Do you think female run societies don't have the same type of conversations that men might find appropriate, offensive, or make uncomfortable? Like, as I've previously stated, discussions about dick size and relationship drama? Have you been to the woman subforum? Have you seen the thread about hot guys in poker? Clearly not.

I know SJWs want to pretend that men and women are the same, but they aren't, and we shouldn't be compelled to make them feel accepted and included in literally every thread like they are wheel chair bound.

You want to make the society more welcoming for women at the expense of making it less interesting for men. And exactly how many women do you plan to police up with this strat? This is already a poker forum that has been grossly male-dominated since inception for the obvious reason poker is a grossly male-dominated game.

Odds are you lose more men do to boredom and never get the women because they aren't really interested in the first place.

Moreover, TimeLady used to ****ing run the competition FFS.

We have one butt hurt woman and, as typical, we have a thousand internet white knights with their swords unsheathed.
02-06-2017 , 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
Is this the new pub or something? This thread is for sjw containment so please make your posts relevant to containing sjws
do you prefer tupperware or ziploc bags?
02-06-2017 , 01:04 AM
What is the verdict when it comes to this thread?
02-06-2017 , 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by karmarein
It's shocking that a white dominant society might have discussions that white people enjoy. Shocking. This makes the forum more welcoming to white people at the expense of thin-skinned brown people.

Do you think minority run societies don't have the same type of conversations that men might find appropriate, offensive, or make uncomfortable? Have you been to the brown people subforum?

I know SJWs want to pretend that white people and brown people are the same, but they aren't, and we shouldn't be compelled to make them feel accepted and included in literally every thread like they are wheel chair bound.

You want to make the society more welcoming for brown people at the expense of making it less interesting for white people. And exactly how many brown people do you plan to police up with this strat? This is already a poker forum that has been grossly white people-dominated since inception for the obvious reason poker is a grossly white people-dominated game.

Odds are you lose more white people do to boredom and never get the brown people because they aren't really interested in the first place.

We have one butt hurt brown person and, as typical, we have a thousand internet white knights with their swords unsheathed.
Would get banned instantly

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Originally Posted by karmarein
It's shocking that a heterosexual dominant society might have discussions that heterosexuals enjoy. Shocking. This makes the forum more welcoming to heterosexuals at the expense of thin-skinned gay people.

Do you think non-heterosexual run societies don't have the same type of conversations that heterosexuals might find appropriate, offensive, or make uncomfortable? Have you been to the gay subforum?

I know SJWs want to pretend that heterosexuals and homosexuals are the same, but they aren't, and we shouldn't be compelled to make them feel accepted and included in literally every thread like they are wheel chair bound.

You want to make the society more welcoming for lgbtq at the expense of making it less interesting for heterosexuals. And exactly how many lgbt people do you plan to police up with this strat? This is already a poker forum that has been grossly straight people-dominated since inception for the obvious reason poker is a grossly straight people-dominated game.

Odds are you lose more straight people do to boredom and never get the lgbt people because they aren't really interested in the first place.

We have one butt hurt gay person and, as typical, we have a thousand internet white knights with their swords unsheathed.
Would get banned instantly

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Originally Posted by karmarein
It's shocking that a male dominant society might have discussions that males enjoy. Shocking. This makes the forum more welcoming to men at the expense of thin-skinned women.

Do you think female run societies don't have the same type of conversations that men might find appropriate, offensive, or make uncomfortable? Have you been to the woman subforum?

I know SJWs want to pretend that men and women are the same, but they aren't, and we shouldn't be compelled to make them feel accepted and included in literally every thread like they are wheel chair bound.

You want to make the society more welcoming for women at the expense of making it less interesting for men. And exactly how many women do you plan to police up with this strat? This is already a poker forum that has been grossly male-dominated since inception for the obvious reason poker is a grossly male-dominated game.

Odds are you lose more men do to boredom and never get the women because they aren't really interested in the first place.

We have one butt hurt woman and, as typical, we have a thousand internet white knights with their swords unsheathed.
Totally fine

White supremacy and homophobia would get run out of Pog without that much resistance. But for whatever reason, fill in the blanks with "male" and "female", and suddenly its a discussion numerous good, smart men will get behind. It boggles the mind.

Last edited by Crossnerd; 02-06-2017 at 01:12 AM.
02-06-2017 , 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted by gambit8888
What is the verdict when it comes to this thread?
It seems like the votes are for keeping your virtual women at the expense of your real ones. Standard.
02-06-2017 , 01:12 AM
This damn patriarchy needs to be torn apart brick by brick. The struggle continues!
02-06-2017 , 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Crossnerd
It seems like the votes are for keeping your virtual women at the expense of your real ones. Standard.
I'm still hoping for miss feline pog personally
02-06-2017 , 01:15 AM
Isn't it awesome that no matter what white men do they are always the dicks, yet if you reversed all your revisions you wouldn't think it's bad at all.

Like...

so why aren't you in the woman subforum causing drama about their thread? Or is it ok for women to be 'sexist'?
02-06-2017 , 01:20 AM
And just ftr, comparing the Politics thread to the Miss Pog threads is an obvious false equivalency. Politics is exactly the sort of thread that doesn't offend anyone unless you click on it, and you can choose to ignore it. Its existence in and of itself is not offensive.

Tying the politcs thread to this is just yet another pathetic attempt to justify the existence of an unjustifiable thread, and at worst an attempt to "take" something in some sort of forced quid pro quo based largely in bitterness for having to "give" something up. Sad!

If you all had such problems with the Politics thread, why didn't you start a thread like this one asking for it to be changed? My personal theory is none of you give an actual **** about the politics thread.

Its also true that if a mod had made a thread that suggested limiting or eliminating the politics thread, UD and others wouldn't have taken any issue at all with who created the thread, or the mod voicing his opinion.
02-06-2017 , 01:22 AM
karmarein, unless you're a gimmick of an actual pogger, this discussion doesn't involve you. Beyond that, I have zero desire to discuss neanderthal theories with you.
02-06-2017 , 01:22 AM
And it boggles my mind XN why you can't live and let live. Why you feel coercive and aggressive actions are optimal routes for a society to thrive and increase its population. Why freedom is a liability instead of an opportunity to enjoy your life and pursue your happiness as you see fit.
02-06-2017 , 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by tchaz
I'm not a great UD fan - e.g., tho' I'm always interested in his musical takes in walruses - submitter, mod or kibbitzer, I won't play ww games where he's modding or co-modding. But he's knocking it out of the park here.
How dare you to say you don't like me! Everything is ruined forever.

Just kidding. It's all good.

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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
Like if the existence of one thread is enough to make this place so horrible you'd think the fact that there is a whole subforum dedicated to politics would cause them to delete one's account.

What do you do when you go to a place that has cnn or fox on? Run away in terror?
This has to be the most ridiculous post ITT. Did the politard thread not teach you that there is life outside the United States?
02-06-2017 , 01:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Crossnerd
karmarein, unless you're a gimmick of an actual pogger, this discussion doesn't involve you. Beyond that, I have zero desire to discuss neanderthal theories with you.
I left POG shortly after your arrival, but I don't think I ever played in a game with you. Ironically, I think we would have enjoyed each other's company.
02-06-2017 , 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by gambit8888
What is the verdict when it comes to this thread?
well Kruze is fer it, Monkey agin it, you're neutral ... so i guess Monty is the tiebreaker?

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Originally Posted by Crossnerd
And just ftr, comparing the Politics thread to the Miss Pog threads is an obvious false equivalency. Politics is exactly the sort of thread that doesn't offend anyone unless you click on it, and you can choose to ignore it. Its existence in and of itself is not offensive.

Tying the politcs thread to this is just yet another pathetic attempt to justify the existence of an unjustifiable thread, and at worst an attempt to "take" something in some sort of forced quid pro quo based largely in bitterness for having to "give" something up. Sad!

If you all had such problems with the Politics thread, why didn't you start a thread like this one asking for it to be changed? My personal theory is none of you give an actual **** about the politics thread.

Its also true that if a mod had made a thread that suggested limiting or eliminating the politics thread, UD and others wouldn't have taken any issue at all with who created the thread, or the mod voicing his opinion.
02-06-2017 , 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
I don't understand how people can't just ignore threads they don't like
how about the thread

Is Luckbox Stupid? Lets discuss inside

might be hard for you to ignore, but still not like it
02-06-2017 , 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by karmarein
And it boggles my mind XN why you can't live and let live. Why you feel coercive and aggressive actions are optimal routes for a society to thrive and increase its population. Why freedom is a liability instead of an opportunity to enjoy your life and pursue your happiness as you see fit.
Gtfo
02-06-2017 , 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by UncleDynamite


This has to be the most ridiculous post ITT. Did the politard thread not teach you that there is life outside the United States?
the most ridiculous post in the whole thread? wow

do you lack the ability to replace cnn and fox with whatever your main news network is wherever you live?
02-06-2017 , 01:26 AM
i'll allow it
02-06-2017 , 01:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Crossnerd
If you all had such problems with the Politics thread, why didn't you start a thread like this one asking for it to be changed?
I have a problem with it, but I see/saw no reason to try to take something away from so many people who enjoy torturing themselves debating that type of stuff

My only hope is those who post in there leave it in there and it doesn't leak into the rest of the forum
02-06-2017 , 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by VarianceMinefield
how about the thread

Is Luckbox Stupid? Lets discuss inside

might be hard for you to ignore, but still not like it
You'd have to make it game though or have it serve a community need
02-06-2017 , 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Crossnerd
Gtfo
Peace is not merely a distant goal that we seek, but a means by which we arrive at that goal. -MLK Jr
02-06-2017 , 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
the most ridiculous post in the whole thread? wow

do you lack the ability to replace cnn and fox with whatever your main news network is wherever you live?
Here in Italy, we very rarely have TVs with political news in public places.
02-06-2017 , 01:30 AM
The people participating in Ms pog are not even pog regulars for the most part

same with the people who are defending it here. a lot of SE trolls

there is basically no interest in Ms pog, more an interest from a group who dont like to not be able to say something

the same people arguing this, are the ones who are really upset you cant use the word ginger in SE

      
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