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Originally Posted by DarkMagus
All you're doing is talking about women. By this logic literally any thread on any topic can become a "game" just by having a vote at the end on whose posts you like the most.
What's your point? There exist plenty of games that are stupidly simple and easy to play. Miss POG is one of them.
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oh the old "you can't be offended by anything because i can make up stuff to be offended by"
Never said you couldn't be offended. That doesn't mean we need to bubblewrap the forum for them. People can get offended by pretty much anything. The question is whether their offense is reasonable given the circumstances and is our reaction to their offense equally reasonable.
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if you don't see why a thread about men rating women might legitimately make some women a little uncomfortable, then i guess end of discussion because i have no idea how else to explain it
I see why a lot of things can make people uncomfortable. You clearly have an issue with selective reading. I've already explained that there are posts about hard drug use on this forum that make me uncomfortable. Doesn't mean I think we should ban posting about it.
Part of life is developing a thicker skin. The other part is not being a douche to other people who don't have one.
Once again, no one is saying anything sexist, misogynistic, derogatory, or negative about women in the thread. No one is being a douche about it. If there were guys being douches about it and trolling the women and laughing about their imperfections that would be another thing, and infractions and possible banning may be appropriate.
The women I work with talk about guys' dicks all the time. They pass around their phones and show each other their dick picks and giggle and make fun of them. Is that an uncomfortable situation for a guy? Yeah, it is. And they aren't being classy about it at all (unlike the guys playing Miss POG). But that doesn't mean the girls shouldn't be able to chitchat among themselves about guys. When the conversation gets weird I, like a normal person, walk away. I don't run to HR like a little bitch and get everyone in trouble, make the whole work environment extremely uncomfortable, and force everyone to walk on egg shells 40 hours a week.
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There's a big difference between controversial rules, mod decisions, etc... and the subject matter of the "game" itself being controversial.
Ehh, not really. Something just as offensive can happen in a game as it can with a thread title. Because that's what this all about. A thread title. You all have a problem with seeing the word 'Miss POG' on the thread listing. No one is making you click on it, read it, or play in it. But God forbid you see the words 'Miss POG' and its like your eyes have been gauged out.
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Cause it's on the front page every time someone posts in it?
Like let's say you're a woman who wants to play at a board game club, but the club has mostly men
On the wall there is a bunch of stuff about board games, but also a poster for a "discussing and ranking women" group
If you tell someone the poster bothers you, and that it seems out of place for a board game club, they call you an SJW fascist and that you should just ignore the poster
Is this really what you consider a welcoming environment?
Well, let's see. First, you start by answering your own question:
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It's not just about one thread, it's about the fact that this kind of stuff appears constantly in male-dominated spaces. Like yeah a woman can ignore one thread, or one slightly sexist joke here and there, but it gets tiring having to do that every single place you go. It's the constant barrage of this kind of stuff. It's easier for women to just ignore places where that kind of stuff is allowed. If you want to advocate renaming this to "Men's Puzzles and Other Games", then fine, but don't pretend this isn't something that repels some women from participating.
Personally the thread doesn't really bother me, it won't make me stop posting here. But if it does make other people leave, that would bother me.
It's shocking that a male dominant society might have discussions that males enjoy. Shocking. This makes the forum more welcoming to men at the expense of thin-skinned women.
Do you think female run societies don't have the same type of conversations that men might find appropriate, offensive, or make uncomfortable? Like, as I've previously stated, discussions about dick size and relationship drama? Have you been to the woman subforum? Have you seen the thread about hot guys in poker? Clearly not.
I know SJWs want to pretend that men and women are the same, but they aren't, and we shouldn't be compelled to make them feel accepted and included in literally every thread like they are wheel chair bound.
You want to make the society more welcoming for women at the expense of making it less interesting for men. And exactly how many women do you plan to police up with this strat? This is already a poker forum that has been grossly male-dominated since inception for the obvious reason poker is a grossly male-dominated game.
Odds are you lose more men do to boredom and never get the women because they aren't really interested in the first place.
Moreover, TimeLady used to ****ing run the competition FFS.
We have one butt hurt woman and, as typical, we have a thousand internet white knights with their swords unsheathed.