^^^ the greatest poster of this generation ainec ^^^

There's also a ton of dudes destroying their bodies and brains with steroids to conform to your standards of beauty.

You can't control people's perceptions of you and to let that govern your existence is awful and entirely on you. The only thing you can control is your perception of yourself. Start valuing yourself as more than an object and you become one. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy. There is more to life than sex and getting dicked. It's sad some women can't see that, but it's not guys fault that they want to date beautiful women, it's merely a natural, biological part of life.

No one in this thread is trashing women, calling them names, or saying derogatory and negative things about women based on their appearance. The game is about celebrating women and beauty, in its own way. You don't like it for whatever reason, you don't play (just like me).

Uhh, no. It's Spencer's. Lot of questionable material inside, lots of kids walk past it, you don't go in.

what the hell

deleting a thread is now the same thing as using force?

there are a bunch of other forums where objectifying "celebrating" women is perfectly fine. go there and do your "celebrating". nobody is arguing to ban that type of stuff on all of 2+2. this isn't a freedom of speech issue, it's an issue of keeping the forum organized.

i'm pretty sure nobody even really cares that much about Ms POG. it just seems in today's society that some people lose their **** at even the smallest change that gets made with any hint of feminism behind it. almost like they're being... triggered?

From my experience, Ms POG does not put women on a scale for their beauty. To label it as a beauty contest is an unfair assessment of the thread.

I've seen many people discuss acting ability/singing voice/talents/achievements for all the women who are apart of Ms POG.

When I read the complaints, it seems like a case of people freaking out about the possibility of Ms POG being some kind of tool to put down women.

When in reality it's very much a celebration of women, and what they've accomplished that year. If people really have a problem with it, try participating. And yes, I'm serious.

If you still have an issue with what is happening then we can look into changing it or even removing the thread entirely. I never like to see people criticize and say things without ever having experienced for themselves. Try it

Nah, i'm pretty sure it's more about SJW and their fascism.

Feminism means something different to every woman and doesn't really exist in any definable consensus.

Porn stars and models view themselves as feminist because they are using their sexuality to empower themselves, make money, and be independent from needing men to take care of them or satisfy them in anyway.

Are they wrong?

Muslim women view covering themselves up is feminist because it empowers them to be judged on their personality, character, and skill-set instead of their looks.

Are they wrong?

Unfortunately, feminism is to some people, as it stands on this forum and elsewhere, forcing other people to conform to your standards of what makes a woman desirable. It's just delicious fascism.

So it's just a coincidence that only attractive women win?

Famous women win

Money comes from fame

Money creates a lot of this "beauty"

I personally found last years winner unattractive

I think run the competition this year as normal. Next year, battle of the champions and that will be it.

2019 cats. Everyone wins this way.

2 out of 3 alt-right buzzwords

you forgot cuck

not sure what the relevance of this is to whether or not Ms POG should be deleted

also not sure what the bolded phrase even means. the point is that the "standards of what makes a woman desirable" is not relevant to this forum, and just because some people delude themselves into thinking they're "celebrating" women doesn't mean the thread isn't still off-putting to women.

This is serious proposal btw. This gives miss pog supporters two years of it before it is eliminated so it won't be some crazy thing where it is shut down this year. Does anyone really think that would be good?

By the way, I wonder if you are going to get a temp like domer did.

I actually kind of like this

You're going to need a fainting couch when you find out we all watch tv, hollywood movies, listen to pop music.

I've got more to say on this topic as whole but, I thought this should be brought up first.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/se...rchid=56218870

Why the **** is Cotton Hill posting in a thread about a thread specific only to a forum he has never posted in? Why the **** should we care what he thinks? This isn't a derision on him personally, I am asking why his posts should even be here, and this goes for anybody else who isn't an active POG member piping in on this issue.

I'm with everyone who thinks that Miss POG has no reason to exist. I haven't seen a single post itt that is supporting the idea for any reason other than "This is how its always been." An argument from tradition to keep a stupid, perverted, sexist, useless thing is beneath the forum as a whole. If anybody has any reasons that this "Game" should continue outside of "This is what we have done" and "Censorship is bad, mmkay" should probably present them now.

I enjoyed miss pog once. Is that not a valid reason? Presumably others enjoy it too or it wouldn't continue

Did you not consider that a valid reason master?

I must admit that I would really like VoraciousReader to start posting here again, and I think stopping Ms POG from running might be a small price for such a reward.

Then again, I am unsure if that is the only reason she stopped posting (McAvoy?) and I am generally find very suspicious practice to bar something that is not even against forum rules just to appease someone, no matter how excellent her posts are.

Jfc

Like,

I agree with master that opinions from people that are not POG regulars should be summarily ignored.
I disagree, of course, wirh his second paragraph.

We can ban it right now for that

enjoyment in a thread is a great reason to have a thread if that thread doesn't hurt people.

there are lots of things people enjoy that we don't have on this forum.

I'm just here to semi-troll and to relive my past miss pog glories. Not for actual discussion. Although if all the social justice stuff stayed here in this thread (perhaps it can be renamed POG SJW Thread) that would please me.

The OOT one seems even more vulgar! Though they have by my count at least 3 women posting along there. I'm sure there are more as I'm unfamiliar with many of their posters. There are absolutely no SERIOUS DISCUSSIONS being had, everyone seems to be having fun, shooting the **** and taking SHATS.

Then there's of course the Top 10 Hottest Guys In Poker in our resident subforum meant for women. Ladies! We are more than just a piece of meat!

nah jk, no one minds this as they shouldn't and if anyone wants to fire up Mr POG then I promise to fight any naysayer just the same.