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09-26-2015 , 02:33 AM
used to love Hearts. Anyone know good places to play online? , seems yahoo ditched it
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09-26-2015 , 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by pwnsall
bumping this old ass thread

Js is up, i have akqhkdjc UTG, dealer turns it down, i say i'm deciding between going alone and passing. Is going alone good at any score?

i have akqdaqh, passes around on some card to me in the 2 spot, i go alone? i guess turned down car could be important

i have jcasaqtd, some club turned up, passes to me, i call spades alone (seems super obvious)

i'm dealer score 9-4, i have Xjsqsqd9d with ts up, passes to me, i go alone?

think it's probably too thin but good with the kd9d

also after i called it alone i trumped first trick got lead led j then just went with qs even tho i could lose lead and be insta set, seems better tho obv

anyway i got laughed at for getting set going alone 3 hands in a row, but i think all are good
They arent. I can see going alone without a bower in rare instances, but normally you have to be 2 suited with 4 of 1 and 1 of another. Especially in the first hand, let's assume one bower is held by your opponents. Where exactly are you going to pick up your third trick? You're banking on the king of diamonds making it around, which is a pretty big gamble.

Essentially you never go alone unless you have three for sure tricks. .

The second one is a bit better, but I assume you ran into both bowers and count get your queen around.

In the last example, are you 9 or 4? There is no reason to ever go alone with 9 unless you are in a tourney.
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09-26-2015 , 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by PyramidScheme
used to love Hearts. Anyone know good places to play online? , seems yahoo ditched it
Pogo I think
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09-26-2015 , 11:20 AM
There are four hands. The first one I passed the next three I went for it.

We had 4 of course

Needing three for sure tricks is bad. Need to play aggressively
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09-26-2015 , 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by pwnsall
There are four hands. The first one I passed the next three I went for it.

We had 4 of course

Needing three for sure tricks is bad. Need to play aggressively
I disagree (again unless in a tournament setting) except under two circumstances. 1. You're ok pissing off you're p or 2. You're p and you have been playing together a long time
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09-26-2015 , 12:34 PM
I am a seasoned cards player, but I don't know Euchre.

Hearts is really an inferior game. Spades is so much better and spades pales to bridge.

If you don't like the partner aspect of spades/bridge, the game you should play is Bonking. Bonking is a fantastic 4 player each-on-his-own cards game.
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09-26-2015 , 01:23 PM
Yeah hearts is basically pointless. It's too easy to manipulate.

Spades I quite enjoy so and I haven't checked out bridge yet, tough to find young people that play bridge I feel like
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09-26-2015 , 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by younguns87
Yeah hearts is basically pointless. It's too easy to manipulate.

Spades I quite enjoy so and I haven't checked out bridge yet, tough to find young people that play bridge I feel like
Try to find a bridge meetup in your area on meetup.com. the demo for the website tends to skew younger
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09-26-2015 , 02:58 PM
You know, it wouldn't kill you to play bridge with non-young people.
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09-26-2015 , 03:07 PM
YG,

If you come back to the SA area then hit me up and we can play some bridge. I'm basically a noob at it though but I'd like to play more.
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09-26-2015 , 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by pwnsall
There are four hands. The first one I passed the next three I went for it.

We had 4 of course

Needing three for sure tricks is bad. Need to play aggressively
you still get 2 points for taking all 5 as a team and in most of these hands you only take 5 tricks in really unlikely distributions
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09-26-2015 , 05:03 PM
I don't think I take all five much more. Sometimes your partner gets in the way as well.
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09-26-2015 , 07:54 PM
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Appreciate all the comments. I think I was being dumb in picking clubs. I was being even dumber in leading the J (I should lead the T) and then A (J was played on first trick) and then A without counting how many clubs had been played. The dealer ended up having thee clubs AND no diamonds AND my partner was unable to take either of the last two tricks and we lost .

So I called the wrong suit, played it the wrong way, and was still pretty unlucky to lose. Such is Euchre I guess.

Feel free to submit your own hands for analysis.

Here's another one of mine:

Euchre: Score is 5 to 8. I have AAK9J in the 1 seat.

Upcard: Q

Q1: Pass or Order Up?

I passed and the dealer picked it up.

Q2: What do I lead and why?
I quoted a bunch of **** and didn't see this was old.

If you're leading trump and you're deciding between connectors you always play the high one in case your p has left guarded or something like that.

ordereadingordereadingtordereadingeading the ace of diamonds to pull 2nd seat straggle trump and make dealer go high (or likely lose the book). If your spade was good it wasn't going anywhere and you should be able to get a cut in after leading trump with three.

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Originally Posted by pwnsall
if you think the dealer certainly has 3 trump the people you play with are a lot less aggro than the people I play with

i'm fairly certain my default play here would be to play a diamond, probably the king
Again this is old. But the best way to think about it is that your p isn't a mind reader and know you have the ace so he has a tough spot.

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LOL, probably. I never found that good things happened when I picked up a low card with a lone right bower in my hand, though.
Too nitty.

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You lead with the ace of spades. It's not remotely close
This seems hyperbolic and partially wrong.

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flee convinced me the right play is to lead the ace of diamonds


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They arent. I can see going alone without a bower in rare instances, but normally you have to be 2 suited with 4 of 1 and 1 of another. Especially in the first hand, let's assume one bower is held by your opponents. Where exactly are you going to pick up your third trick? You're banking on the king of diamonds making it around, which is a pretty big gamble.

Essentially you never go alone unless you have three for sure tricks. .

The second one is a bit better, but I assume you ran into both bowers and count get your queen around.

In the last example, are you 9 or 4? There is no reason to ever go alone with 9 unless you are in a tourney.
You should def go alone without three for sure sometimes. Like right q9t isn't three for sure but you should auto loner with any card as the fifth (assuming not ordering other team).


Also things people never do that seem basic to me is ordering the best they have. You should always order the best you have to your p. So if you have 9/10 of your partners up card and the rest 9's you should always order. I also order any two trump to my pp barring having a much better hand in Hoyle.

Also I'd Hoyle best I have too. I assume everyone knows what Hoyle is.
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09-26-2015 , 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by pwnsall
bumping this old ass thread

Js is up, i have akqhkdjc UTG, dealer turns it down, i say i'm deciding between going alone and passing. Is going alone good at any score?

i have akqdaqh, passes around on some card to me in the 2 spot, i go alone? i guess turned down car could be important

i have jcasaqtd, some club turned up, passes to me, i call spades alone (seems super obvious)

i'm dealer score 9-4, i have Xjsqsqd9d with ts up, passes to me, i go alone?

think it's probably too thin but good with the kd9d

also after i called it alone i trumped first trick got lead led j then just went with qs even tho i could lose lead and be insta set, seems better tho obv

anyway i got laughed at for getting set going alone 3 hands in a row, but i think all are good
H1 going alone in cross Hoyle from a jack thin isn't prob good. Just bid hearts and lead Ah.

H2 the down card is crucial here on whether to loner. If it was a heart you could consider alone . if Jack of hearts went down snap loner imo.

H3 I prob just call the three diamonds since I'll have an ace off.

H4 **** it you're down 9-4, loner super wide there.
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09-26-2015 , 09:02 PM
If anyone is interested in learning bridge this is a fantastic site

http://learn.acbl.org/

and if you want to play bridge online this is the site everyone uses

http://bridgebase.com/

Bridge has a steep learning learn curve, but it really is a fantastic game.
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09-26-2015 , 11:01 PM
Haven't read thread but sheep's head >>>> all these games
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09-27-2015 , 12:17 AM
If seat two orders dealer to pick up I lead Trump quite "often"

In poker terms I think seat one should order up top 20% seat 2 20% seat 3 5% seat 4 60%. Something like that.

Ordering up from seat two definitely not great. Especially if you know your partner will be picking up aggressively.
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09-27-2015 , 01:55 AM
Seat one should order less than seat 3. I dont get why to pass if your p is calling correctly/aggressively. Some of the time we pass and he has something that would help us but he can't order alone on. Esp if both players call correctly then dealer should assume his p is light since he didn't bid the update and not be ordering lighter.
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09-27-2015 , 03:44 AM
Killer knows his euchre. I used to play every day to and from school on the train. English euchre though so the rules are a bit different. I would have preferred Killer as partner than rival for sure.
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09-27-2015 , 04:43 PM
There's no way seat one should order less than the three seat. That's crazy talk!
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09-27-2015 , 04:48 PM
I like to pass in seat three more against dealers who play agro tho
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09-27-2015 , 06:18 PM
Euchre seems weird, I think I'd like it
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09-27-2015 , 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by pwnsall
I like to pass in seat three more against dealers who play agro tho
Most of what I would bid to the other team in 1/3 seat blocks the dealer. Assuming the score is normal then I'm bidding right/x/x left/x/x and maybe a strong qka type hand depending on up card. The issue there is we block his right/x, left/ace and three lows for dealer. A good time to bag (pass bidding hands if you use a diff term) is more like two jacks against an aggro dealer. Again being first seat its better to bag a stronger hand to bag and be able to hoyle if it goes down. Like up card is a heart and you have Jd Ah Th Qd x or something like that I'll bag first seat. But in third I'd order it up if its not a super strong card. The reason is I block Hoyle to my p and I'd expect seat 2 to bid for his p (p puts down red auto call your best black etc).

Also monkey so many feels lol
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02-23-2016 , 08:04 AM
Play in a local euchre tournament consisting of mostly older people that I regard as mostly average at best. It's a structure where you play ten games and eight hands per game. You score for whatever your team gets and you rand partners so you never have the same one. So basically it's solo play trying to score the most points.

The hand in question was one where I'm viewed/known as being really aggro and known to call really wide/do crazy stuff.

My partner turns up the J

My hand was A T and two off aces being 3 suited (so had an ace guarded).

Seat one passes and I went alone.
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02-23-2016 , 12:10 PM
I just hosted a progressive euchre tournament - fun times!

I can't imagine that you're not twice as likely to get all 5 with your partner then going alone. That being said, the progressive nature really rewards being aggressive (who cares if you get fifth?)
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