I've been meaning to do this, and frankly, I know its a childish gay thing to do, but because of all the flack I got for this trade last year, I am treating myself to a big large dessert of "I told you so."
Also who doesn't like to prove clown wrong?
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Originally Posted by Birdman10687
do people think that is a bad trade?
This re: the
OTI gives up: DMC, welker, Palmer
Birdman gives up: Brees, Henderson, F Jones
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Originally Posted by chrisrjdk
To be honest
Yes!
Saying he thinks the trade was really bad.
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Originally Posted by clowntable
I'd say you got raped. Gave up an elite QB, a very good RB prospect and a WR on an elite passing team for a washed up QB, an injured RB with an injury history and another good RB on the team and Welker
Lol.
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Originally Posted by Willd
Personally given the way DMac has played this season I actually think he's as much of a prospect for the future as Jones and possibly slightly more valuable. I think OTI probably got the better of the trade value wise (I'm not so sure it's especially good for his team overall though) but it's fairly close.
Understatement?
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Originally Posted by chrisrjdk
I don't like it for you
DMC is only slightly more valuable than Felix and while Welker is good, Palmer has very little value while Brees is absolutely elite with several good years left
Lol?
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Originally Posted by BingoBango
I guess I'm in the minority but I definitely like birdmans side. Sure, palmer sucks but so does henderson. Dmc has been good this year whereas felix has regressed and done nothing. I like welker and his value would go up even more is moss gets traded.
Figured I should point out the people that were very right, as well.
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Originally Posted by clowntable
As a Raiders fan my verdict is that the trade is bad for the guy getting McFadden. He's an injury magnet and what he has shown at the beginning of the season isn't sustainable
If I'm not in "win now mode" Felix Jones is > McFadden
Lol?
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Originally Posted by Madtown
felix ~ mcfadden
both injury-prone, mcfadden getting more touches now, think felix will be more productive as he gets them, roughly equal depending on how much you need RB production right this instant vs. better production over the next couple years
welker >> henderson
welker better talent, but not quite his old self yet (and may never be), is creeping up on 30 himself, and will now be getting randy moss' double teams.
ultimately boils down to the fact that only one person got an elite player in this trade, and given QB longevity and scarcity compared to RB/WR you just can't trade away a Brees without getting an elite RB or WR in return imo
Lol?
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Originally Posted by clowntable
Busch is the #1 for the Raiders if both him and McFadden are healthy.
LOL?!
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Originally Posted by clowntable
I agree Jones has good competition but he's still the best back of the three imo and has decent mid to longterm value (note how I called him a good RB prospect and not some elite superstud)
I'm merely arguing that McFadden and Jones are at worst pretty close in value and well Brees roflstomps Palmer who may have one or two seasons left before fading into obscurity. Welker is obviously more valuable than Henderson but that and the fact that McFadden may or may not be better than Jones
Sorry. It just makes me feel good to post all of that. Anyone want to trade felix jones for DMC?!