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06-18-2020 , 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by dmk
i mean, context matters. its a fantasy game.
For sure, and I'd hold it against no one for using it. I think it's pretty wrong in light of everything, but I get it. I wouldn't care if you used it.

Dustin's just a prick who doesn't care about anyone else. He's made that abundantly clear in politics. If you inconvenience him it doesn't matter what happens to you.

I'll just add him to ignore, be better for everyone.

Sorry for my derail.
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06-18-2020 , 08:22 PM
Sigh,

Seeing character attacks like this in the thread before the game even starts really puts a sour taste in my mouth.
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06-18-2020 , 08:22 PM
Chim is just a virtue signalling douchebag who wants to feel good about himself and thinks he's a very serious person-- he's made that clear. But fortunately he's got me on ignore now.


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Sigh,

Seeing character attacks like this in the thread before the game even starts really puts a sour taste in my mouth.
Sorry. Virtue signalling is one of my pet peeves.
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06-18-2020 , 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by chim17
For sure, and I'd hold it against no one for using it. I think it's pretty wrong in light of everything, but I get it. I wouldn't care if you used it.

Dustin's just a prick who doesn't care about anyone else. He's made that abundantly clear in politics. If you inconvenience him it doesn't matter what happens to you.

I'll just add him to ignore, be better for everyone.

Sorry for my derail.

Can you try to be more ridiculous?
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06-18-2020 , 08:32 PM
Probably just "role determiner" in place of seer. It doesn't quite roll off the tongue as well but it's more inclusive.
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06-18-2020 , 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
I'm not sure how much I use "lynch" in ww games. Definitely I'll say 'mislynch', but I'm certain I'm a lot more likely to say 'XYZ is a wolf and should die" or "we should go/do XYZ tonight" than anything involving lynching. And people should say what they want.But attitudes like "this is the right thing to do" and "if you don't do it you don't care about people" is where the sanctimoniousness becomes a little too much for me to bear.
I agree with you of course.
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06-18-2020 , 08:40 PM
Alright sorry for ruining this thread. Have fun all.
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06-18-2020 , 08:43 PM
I apologize too.
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06-18-2020 , 10:15 PM
I forgot this was a thing for a little bit. When are we starting?
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06-18-2020 , 10:45 PM
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I forgot this was a thing for a little bit. When are we starting?
Tuesday!
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06-18-2020 , 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckbox Inc
Not really though. It makes us look stupid. Like we didn't realize 15 years ago that lynch has a negative connotation? Pretty sure we all did. So why change now?
The last thing I'd want to be associated with is a bunch of virtue signalers so as the only minority here (I'm pretty sure) I'll be continuing to use lynch.
Could make for a good theme. Political correctness gone mad comes to pog and the only minority (the seer) can tell who is who.
Come to think of it seer is a bit abelist so perhaps that needs work too.
I like "person who can determine other people's roles at night:
Did you ever hear the one about the apartment complex that was only accessible by stairs?

The landlord insisted it wasn't a problem. Because there weren't any people in wheelchairs or with significant physical limitations living there!

If in fact, you are the only person of your race in POG, Dustin, isn't that sad? Wouldn't it be nice if our forum was a little more diverse? Maybe there are other people who have peeked in and been turned off. We have no way of knowing.

And, yes, lynch is descriptive, because werewolf is mob "justice" where the innocent and guilty alike are eliminated by the often irrational throng, overpowered, and "killed." But if it is making people uncomfortable to see it formalized in the writeups, it seems like an easy change to make.

Personally, I really dislike it when accusations of "virtue signalling" get flung around. It is shorthand for "I don't have any reasonable arguments against this but I just don't want to change so I'm going to call you a poser and start making ad hominem attacks."

Within REASON, KM and I don't care what anyone posts in the thread. I am not the PC police and I don't want to be. Use "lynch." Use "assasinate." Use "destroy" "smash" "crush" "smite" or "pillory." Tell people "you're fired!" or "you are the weakest link, goodbye!" But we discussed it earlier today and the role reveals are going try to avoid using the term "lynch." I freely admit that I may screw up a few times because old habits die hard. I hope everyone will be patient with me. Anyone who doesn't wish to be associated with KyrosMother and I because we are insincere virtue signallers is free to "out" of the game.

Last edited by VoraciousReader; 06-18-2020 at 11:04 PM.
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06-18-2020 , 11:01 PM
a few years ago i saw the game "Secret Hitler" running here and I thought it was weird, i pointed it out as being maybe offensive, just to see if some hypocrites would defend it at the time, while attacking me for something

as a jew, i dont really care if games with those type of names run.

i even pointed out to master3004, that his name was insensitive a few years ago, because he is a big virtue signaler, yet has a name, that if i was a black person, i wouldnt really want to be using his name. i personally dont want to call anyone master

i feel like we dont have any black people on this forum to voice their opinion on if the word lynch makes them feel uncomfortable or offensive in relation to a game. id guess their feelings would be similar to mine an the game "secret hitler" but not sure
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06-18-2020 , 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by VoraciousReader
Did you ever hear the one about the apartment complex that was only accessible by stairs?



The landlord insisted it wasn't a problem. Because there weren't any people in wheelchairs or with significant physical limitations living there!



If in fact, you are the only person of your race in POG, Dustin, isn't that sad? Wouldn't it be nice if our forum was a little more diverse? Maybe there are other people who have peeked in and been turned off. We have no way of knowing.



And, yes, lynch is descriptive, because werewolf is mob "justice" where the innocent and guilty alike are eliminated by the often irrational throng, overpowered, and "killed." But if it is making people uncomfortable to see it formalized in the writeups, it seems like an easy change to make.



Personally, I really dislike it when accusations of "virtue signalling" get flung around. It is shorthand for "I don't have any reasonable arguments against this but I just don't want to change so I'm going to call you a poser and start making ad hominem attacks."



Within REASON, KM and I don't care what anyone posts in the thread. I am not the PC police and I don't want to be. Use "lynch." Use "assasinate." Use "destroy" "smash" "crush" "smite" or "pillory." Tell people "you're fired!" or "you are the weakest link, goodbye!" But we discussed it earlier today and the role reveals are going try to avoid using the term "lynch." I freely admit that I may screw up a few times because old habits die hard. I hope everyone will be patient with me. Anyone who doesn't wish to be associated with KyrosMother and I because we are insincere virtue signallers is free to "out" of the game.
Game mods should be free to write up games however they want.
In my experience though most black people don't care too much about issues of word choice/semantics and the sorts of ridiculous discussion that this is. At the end of the day, some person gets eliminated from the game and what we want to call it doesn't matter. As Dmk said: context matters and it seems ridiculous to think that someone would be inclined to play werewolf and decide against it based on the terminology. Maybe that's just me though.
As far as virtue signalling and accusations of it go-- well we've had 15 years to have this discussion. And while I don't doubt that your intentions are pure, I can't say that about everyone. Some people really do just want to feel better about themselves.
As far as write ups go though: we should just say that everyone died of natural causes. Or we can say they wandered off into the snow. There isn't going to be a replacement for terms like mislynch and lynchable though . But I also still call a gas station Texaco in my hometown that hasn't been Texaco since we started playing this game. So that's just me. What gets me though is being told that I'm a bad person from douchy white people.

Last edited by Luckbox Inc; 06-18-2020 at 11:42 PM.
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06-18-2020 , 11:45 PM
Let's agree to disagree about virtue signalling. You better hope you don't rand() wolf though, because if you do I'm not above bringing it up again in the sanctity of wolfchat.



In any case, I am very, very excited by all the people that have "in"ned, so I hope nobody actually does drop out.

Thingy, I'd like to draw a signup deadline of Sunday night so I can get Mr.theBabe and a few other experts to try to break my game design in plenty of time to fix it. What do you think of 9 pm server time?
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06-18-2020 , 11:46 PM
Could run top tier toms poisoner setup, seems like a good way to speed up the kills but still allow people to post (valuable in this reunion style game), it isn't crazy swingy and has lots of opportunities for players to play well.

my 2cents.
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06-18-2020 , 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by VoraciousReader
Let's agree to disagree about virtue signalling. You better hope you don't rand() wolf though, because if you do I'm not above bringing it up again in the sanctity of wolfchat.
Fair enough. Somehow it's the case that all the people I like most are the ENFP (if I'm going to take a stab at your personality type) bleeding heart types-- which works out fine as far as rescuing kittens go but not so well in discussions like this. But yeah-- not ready to be a wolf again for a minute.
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06-19-2020 , 12:24 AM
Here is the list I'm working with so far. Please let me know if I've missed you. I have a count of 26 confirmed.

This will technically be a vanilla plus with a public roleset, but I'm not going to set a ceiling because I want everyone to play who can.

If needs must, I'll just add a little more carnage. KM and I already have some ideas about that.

aao
aaronk56
biggerboat
Birdman10687
BobOjedaFan
coordi
cracked quads
Crossnerd
coordi
dmk
Felix the Cat
JDalla
jonnyd
Kukraprout
Luckbox Inc
mrs.jonnyd
Nicholasp27
riverfish1
shortline99
Shrike
sixfour
Sun Tzu
Tokyo!!
traz
wdcbooks
YouKnowWho
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06-19-2020 , 12:29 AM
Tell chim to play. He was in before. I am sick and tired of everyone hating each other.
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06-19-2020 , 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by BobOjedaFan
Tell chim to play. He was in before. I am sick and tired of everyone hating each other.
https://youtu.be/TaNcKgG_sxY
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06-19-2020 , 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by VoraciousReader
Here is the list I'm working with so far. Please let me know if I've missed you. I have a count of 26 confirmed.

This will technically be a vanilla plus with a public roleset, but I'm not going to set a ceiling because I want everyone to play who can.

If needs must, I'll just add a little more carnage. KM and I already have some ideas about that.

aao
aaronk56
biggerboat
Birdman10687
BobOjedaFan
coordi
cracked quads
Crossnerd
coordi
dmk
Felix the Cat
JDalla
jonnyd
Kukraprout
Luckbox Inc
mrs.jonnyd
Nicholasp27
riverfish1
shortline99
Shrike
sixfour
Sun Tzu
Tokyo!!
traz
wdcbooks
YouKnowWho
Sorry: 25 confirmed, unless coordi wants to multi-account.
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06-19-2020 , 02:03 PM
Thank you again for all this, VR! I'll be prodding some more people tonight/asking the rest for confirms again.

Sad to see there was a derail while I was gone. There's a werewolf LC thread where that can be discussed, if you want. Let's keep this thread about happy reunion stuff
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06-19-2020 , 05:59 PM
Hosts: VoraciousReader and KyrosMother
Game type: Vanilla+

Sign ups end Sunday night. Game begins Tuesday, June 23.

IN (26):
aao
aaronk56
biggerboat
Birdman10687
BobOjedaFan
coordi
crackedquads
Crossnerd
dmk
Felix the Cat
JDalla
jonnyd
Kukraprout
Luckbox Inc
mrs. jonnyd
Nicholasp27
riverfish1
shortline99
Shrike
Siegmund
sixfour
Sun Tzu
Tokyo!!
traz
wdcbooks
YouKnowWho
+ maybe you?

I've sent out PM's to everyone now asking for final confirmations to make sure everyone is good with the final details. I'll start contacting some people on Facebook now also to see if we can get a few more.

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06-19-2020 , 06:07 PM
Confirmed. Though as previously mentioned my participation will be in and out.

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06-19-2020 , 06:26 PM
Let’s do it
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06-19-2020 , 06:28 PM
Confirmed

Busy Monday so love the Tuesday start
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