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06-09-2018 , 10:24 AM
Since we've failed at getting several turbos started, we might as well try to start a slow game.

I'd suggest we keep it simple. Two teams, maybe a best of 5 rounds?

There probably be some kind of time limit after the clue is given. I'm up for suggestions about what that should be.

Game rules here minus the rules about the tourney format.

I remember that a lot of people ended up saying proper nouns shouldn't be allowed, but I forget why that was.

I think we can get rolling with 4 people and then add as necessary.

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06-09-2018 , 10:31 AM
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06-09-2018 , 10:46 AM
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What are proper nouns.

I am at a disadvantage with English not being my first language, please keep that in mind when assembling teams.

I think 6 players is the optimal number for a forum game.
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06-09-2018 , 10:54 AM
OK, I read the linked post and I know what proper nouns are.

With English not being my first language I would like to have the opportunity to research the word list before clues are given or be able to veto a word and request a rerand.

What I am missing in the rules is that you are only allowed to give hints that concern the meaning of words and can not provide hints that concern the letters used in the word, the amount of letters, words that rhyme etc.
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06-09-2018 , 11:02 AM
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For the time limit, if it is going to be less than 24 hours, I suggest making sure the team will be available at some point during said period before giving the clue.
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06-09-2018 , 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Gabethebabe
OK, I read the linked post and I know what proper nouns are.

With English not being my first language I would like to have the opportunity to research the word list before clues are given or be able to veto a word and request a rerand.

What I am missing in the rules is that you are only allowed to give hints that concern the meaning of words and can not provide hints that concern the letters used in the word, the amount of letters, words that rhyme etc.
With regard to the blue - maybe we just allow people to look up the meanings of words if they are unsure. I think this can be done and still keep the spirit of the game. It is not meant to be trivia or a test of knowledge imo.

I don't have a problem with giving you pre-approval, but it might slow the game down too much.

The red - Yes, this is an important rule that seems to be missing. You also couldn't say "middle" to mean the middle of the word list. I suggest we post a finalized list of rules before we start.
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06-09-2018 , 11:09 AM
I've always played with proper nouns allowed, but am fine with prohibiting them.

Proper Nouns are actual names of specific people, places, or things. New York, John Smith, The Louvre, Eiffel Tower, etc.

It enables you to link some words that would be otherwise unrelated. For example, I once linked robin and dress with the clue Marian.
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06-09-2018 , 11:16 AM
I think proper nouns should be allowed as long as they consist of one word.

So George Washington is not allowed, but Seinfeld is.

About investigating: I would be unsure of the words "Bugle" and "Platypus" for example. There aren't many of them.
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06-09-2018 , 11:19 AM
I looked through some old threads and reminded myself of the proper noun thing.

The problem we had with the slow format was illegal clues. Proper nouns created opened up some room for gray areas as to what exactly proper nouns could clue for. It became easier to not allow them. If a team gets several words from an illegal clue when the other spymaster is not around it kind of breaks the game.

One was "The lazy river" which is supposedly a name for a certain amusement park ride. I think it was being used to clue for words like slow and water. Some people thought it was an angle shoot.

Not allowing proper nouns eliminated nearly all the illegal clue problems and arguments we had.
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06-09-2018 , 11:22 AM
Suppose "state" and "president" are on the board.

Can I say "George Washington" ?

EDIT: missed the "one word" thing suggested by Gabe. That would help, but I think the whole point of the rule is that more than one word is allowed if it is a proper noun. One word would be OK regardless.
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06-09-2018 , 11:23 AM
I think not.
"George Washington" are two words.
"Washington" would be a good and legal clue in this case.
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06-09-2018 , 11:37 AM
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I think not.
"George Washington" are two words.
"Washington" would be a good and legal clue in this case.
Also, I like this rule.

What about hyphenated words?
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06-09-2018 , 11:51 AM
The only reason I'm ok with 2 words for proper noun is that the game itself has them. I believe 1 of the cards is New York, for example. Please correct me if I'm wrong though.

That being said, if Gabe's word bank contains all single words, then my point is invalid.
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06-09-2018 , 12:35 PM
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That being said, if Gabe's word bank contains all single words, then my point is invalid.
The official wordlist of codenames+duet contains various words that are not single (Scuba Diver, Black Hole, Joan of Arc, to name a few)
Still doesn't mean we should allow two word hints.
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06-09-2018 , 12:40 PM
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06-09-2018 , 12:54 PM
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Seems like we can rand and start soon.

However, I think it is important to get things clarified before we begin. If you want to see the arguing and rather extreme amount of butthurt caused by proper nouns click here.

If we go with the one-word thing - Suppose I say "Pitt 3" to clue for Ocean, Fight, and Hole.

I'd say this clue is invalid for hole, but OK for oceans and fight because Brad Pitt was in famous moving containing those words. Do others agree?

What would happen if I said "Pitt 3" for those words? What is the penalty?
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06-09-2018 , 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Gabethebabe

What I am missing in the rules is that you are only allowed to give hints that concern the meaning of words and can not provide hints that concern the letters used in the word, the amount of letters, words that rhyme etc.

I remember the chaos I caused when I went byte (2) to try and get my team to pick computer and bite..... (or something like that).. We had some big debates in a few games.
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06-09-2018 , 01:10 PM
I'll play with whatever rules and penalties others agree on

I'm just here for the funsies
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06-09-2018 , 01:11 PM
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Carl_spackler
iraisetoomuch
Gabethebabe
Lattimer
Eyebooger
Xanderbiscuits

Seems like we can rand and start soon.

However, I think it is important to get things clarified before we begin. If you want to see the arguing and rather extreme amount of butthurt caused by proper nouns click here.

If we go with the one-word thing - Suppose I say "Pitt 3" to clue for Ocean, Fight, and Hole.

I'd say this clue is invalid for hole, but OK for oceans and fight because Brad Pitt was in famous moving containing those words. Do others agree?

What would happen if I said "Pitt 3" for those words? What is the penalty?
If you are going to have a 3 on 3 game and need a sub just PM me and if I am around I can jump in.
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06-09-2018 , 01:15 PM
I think we should have a 3 on 4 game

It's no huge advantage to have an extra player, it'll just help the game run a little quicker
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06-09-2018 , 01:21 PM
AK - I 'm fine with 4 v 4 or even more. More people can make the game go faster because imo it is not necessary to wait for complete consensus. Let's give it a little longer
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06-09-2018 , 01:24 PM
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I think we should have a 3 on 4 game

It's no huge advantage to have an extra player, it'll just help the game run a little quicker
I agree but we can probably pick up another player given time. Maybe cut off entries at 3 PM.
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06-09-2018 , 01:32 PM
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AK - I 'm fine with 4 v 4 or even more. More people can make the game go faster because imo it is not necessary to wait for complete consensus. Let's give it a little longer
That is my concern about signing up. If it was 5 on 5 then I know I wont hold things up if I am offline for a long period, but with 3/ 3 or 4/4 (even in a slow game) you could still feel tied to the computer.
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06-09-2018 , 01:42 PM
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- not sure why proper nouns would be a problem

- double-entendres are interesting in written form

- hyphenated words are two words imo
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06-09-2018 , 03:06 PM
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I remember the chaos I caused when I went byte (2) to try and get my team to pick computer and bite..... (or something like that).. We had some big debates in a few games.
Byte as a clue for bite is a textbook example if what is not allowed
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