I can clue Rd4.

I wish that I were clever enough to scheme that well.

Do you want to make a board or want me to?

You can do it, I'll probably screw it up.

Since we're locked into going second, should I make the board, then have Lattimer choose which side he wants?

I don't want to make a board with 5 countries, 4 birds and 5 foods for blue and have people suggest shenanigans.

I'll rand the colors after the board is made. Doesn't matter if blue were to go first.

Okay sending now.

Please check it over and make sure the right numbers of red/blue/neutral are there.

17/17/14/2 looks good.

If this post is odd, my team will be red.

We are blue, but will go first!!!

Not sure I can handle this. It's new and weird.

Make a new thread?

done

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/5...d-4-a-1720698/

okay, but if blue wins, then we will need to evaluate the rule set as if red had won, in order to determine if future long-list games will need to have an extra word for the team that goes first.

Correct. In fact for the recorded results of this game we can just swap the colors to be consistent with red=first when looking back on it.

Morning folks. key was for key grip.

iRTM had a really tough board. Ggs all

Interesting that in a long list game that neither team picked another team’s word.

Turkey
Fire
Queen
Hollywood
Change
Mouth
Canada
Spider
Key
America
Sound
Dog
Mercury
Cross
Boom
Egypt
Wave
Well
Compound
Atlantis
Cliff
Box
Czech
Log
Square
Fan
Torch
Port
Palm
Apple
Buck
Comic
Day
Limousine
Diamond
Bond
Crane
King
Slip
Ground
Hood
Pound
Spell
Telescope
Cotton
Space
Pistol
Antarctica
Jack
Saturn

I know what you mean. I didn't have the same problem when I made this board because each team had been red once, so it was a rand for red/blue for game 3. All I did was make sure IRTM was pmd the board before I randed colours in the game thread.

Spymaster Notes for Team Echo (red)

Blue had a much tougher board than red, but I needed some of their words gone before going for some large# clues. My first 2 turns were very safe. Decided I was going to make low risk moves unless they showed momentum.

Barking 3 (got dog, mouth and sound). Pound was a slight risk but was neutral

Freddie 2 (got Mercury and Queen). It also steered me clear of one assassin word problem (Saturn) and hoped it would take King out of my next idea.

I went Moses 4 (Egypt and Cross (holy cross, or crossing desert or crossing red sea) and Fire (burning bush..) and wave (after parting the red sea). I knew fire and wave were not locks but I didn’t see any blue options.

Thanksgiving 3 ( Turkey , America and Canada). I knew Day was possible but Thanksgiving is really only celebrated as a national holiday in US and Canada (well, and Liberia…lol). Team Echo made a good play picking off a Moses word (cross) before going for Canada (in case Canada was wrong)

Filmmaking 3 (Hollywood, Boom, and Key (as in key grip). Key was weak but I was hopeful. I also needed to get clues out for a future unlimited. Crane was neutral and I figured Hollywood and boom would go before crane.

Was hoping time allowed for Locksmith 2 (change, key and one Moses word) and then I will do tarantula unlimited or 1 for spider and whatever is left.

I didn’t want to get rid of wave as IRTM can use water X to get port, well, cliff, atlantis and maybe more.

After one of the assassin words is picked (Jack) I revealed spider, leaving me with:
Change
Key
Fire (Moses)
Wave (Moses)

Went Locksmith Unlimited

Then I woke up and we had won..GG!!!!

Great guessing team Echo. Really tough board IRTM and team Delta. Just too many orphan words that were tough to tie together (Atlantis, czech, cliff, day)……. Really tough.. Even near the end you still had a bunch of neutral blockers (bond, pistol, cotton).

GL in game 4 all.

"I didn’t want to get rid of wave as IRTM can use water X to get port, well, cliff, atlantis and maybe more."

This is an aspect of the game that I need to work on: an awareness of the other team's prospects. Well, that and every other aspect.

And guessing for the other team.

I should have seen all that sooner, though. I should have clued Thanksgiving 3 before Moses 4. I only really saw the connection after wave got missed. This game is fun but crazy.. you need some scrap paper for sure...lol

Wp Arctic

Gg bluesers

Its all about the spreadsheet!

oh cool i was right on fan (edit: but buck is there too so maybe not)

gg everyone

gg all, nice clues AK

So here's where I was at:

The entire time, wave kept screwing me up because I couldn't think of a way to get most of the water type words as unit without cluing for that one. I actually considered the idea of just letting you all guess it but trying to drop a 6 clue in there just to see how it worked. I'm still not sure it would have been a bad idea.

tree 4
Here I was hoping for the obvious ones
Log, palm, apple, but I was also hoping for cross. I knew that Fire was a risk, esp for the Americans right now on the west coast, but I figured that crosses being wade out of wood might be good enough to get you there

enclose 6
This one was a bit of stretch, but I felt we needed to make up sound ground. I was hoping for well, box, square, limo, port (sketchy) and compound. I felt good about 5 of those, and maybe 5 was the right clue

paper 2
this was one fan and comic. I didn't even see slip, and never thought of the buck connection. If I had, I might have still used it anyway, and just gone paper 3 and let the 'slip' ride
olympics - unlimited
this was a catch up of course, and the only way that I could think that bring on Czech without wasting a turn on it. They are in the Olympics, I thought ya'll might get that, maybe poor on me
outlet 2
this was just straight up me being tired and not seeing jack in there

Overall good game all, and thanks for the effort team.
Hard to clue with so many bogey words out there, and it felt like much of what I wanted to do was being blocked by blue.

Fun regardless.

You were good irtm, I think we were on all of those except Cross (would have to go back and check). Just some unfortunate ordering of guesses