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yea seems like this should be for more than boom...so it could actually be a clue for the opposite word like if 'Creation' was on there but I'm not seeing anything like that yet

time - perhaps should hold off since there can be a bomb, or fireworks but bomb woulda just done that like you said
Leprechaun - should be safe, don't think it's a magical explosion of lucky charms
Cloak - don't see anything exploding here
Soup - could be an explosion of flavor lol
Scroll - eh
Apple - maybe but also eh
Boom - for sure! =)

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06-09-2021 , 06:42 PM

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D1iabol1cal

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Interesting. Would've expected an unlimited clue if it was just boom that wasn't ours, but don't see how explosion even remotely hits any of those other words. Maybe he's just setting up the next clue?

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06-09-2021 , 08:42 PM

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Yeah. Not sure what is up but think we should pick time through to apple. Boom is theirs or an assassin. Not neutral or it ends our turn uneventfully on an unlimited.

They can decide whether to go near it...lol

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06-09-2021 , 09:13 PM

#5704

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We would've stopped before boom with an unlimited anyway since we'd be all caught up. I think he probably wants explosion to eliminate a couple of words for the next clue, otherwise I don't get it.

Agree we just guess time through apple.

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06-09-2021 , 09:17 PM

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We would only need 2 more words tho. Maybe we're supposed to guess scarecrow and something else.

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06-09-2021 , 10:28 PM

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We would only need 2 more words tho. Maybe we're supposed to guess scarecrow and something else.

But scarecrow was never on our list. I just looked back and the only word that was once on our list was hole for vermin . But, that is just one word so even if nails wanted us to get 1 more after that he'd know we would have no list to go back to...

It would be pretty risky go after words we talked about and then pluck two of them..imo...

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06-09-2021 , 10:43 PM

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I agree...was just thinking out loud.

I think we just have to go with our list minus boom and pass.

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06-09-2021 , 10:55 PM

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how about you AE? same thoughts or something different.

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06-09-2021 , 11:00 PM

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I think we're all done with vermin...list minus boom doesn't sound right to me...I would clue unlimited though maybe it's assassin or something and everything is just dead on right and he wants us to stop before that? seems kinda weird tho I'm thinking there's some other word we shouldn't guess or perhaps move time to the bottom of our guesses at least

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06-09-2021 , 11:03 PM

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obviously if we can get down to 2 that'd be great, even 3 we may be able to close if top word is right or something...none of the words seem to have anything to do with explosion to me though, except perhaps time(and boom obv)

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06-09-2021 , 11:21 PM

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I think my theory that he wants to give a clue, but there is a blue/assassin blocker in the way that he wants gone for next turn, makes more sense than anything else.

If you wanna move time to the bottom, then whatever, but it seems like he went out of his way to make sure that it wasn't eliminated.

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06-09-2021 , 11:40 PM

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if he wants it out of the way the 0 clue absolutely accomplishes it though? which is why I'm a little confused, seems like he wants more than boom gone but if not moving time down doesn't change anything

guess just thinking through scenarios where it would hurt to move it down and I don't think it really would

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06-09-2021 , 11:48 PM

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I'm saying I think the 0 clue was for this turn + his next clue.

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06-09-2021 , 11:50 PM

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I am kind of worried about changing order as nails clued with order in mind.

It could be boom is very dangerous, and that is it.

Plus what D1 said makes sense. This sets things up for the next turn.

This does not need to make sense to us right now for it to be exactly what nails wants.

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06-09-2021 , 11:55 PM

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if you both like it I'm ok with it - I'll just say even considering setups it doesn't quite make sense - like he wants us to just rip down the list? unlimited + even a new clue does it. wants to get rid of a bad word in the way? clue for 0 on more than just bomb - not like we'd have a list for next turn if everything else is right

perhaps I'm overthinking it and it is just go down, I just see advantages to moving time down in the event nails wants more than 1 thing out of the way but if you both wanna just rip down OK

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06-10-2021 , 12:01 AM

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Ervin, the scenario I'm talking about is if he has a 2 clue, but it hits 3 words strongly, then he can't give that clue this turn.

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06-10-2021 , 12:03 AM

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Bomb is such an obvious clue for boom+time, that I just can't ever see it being wrong. I haven't really thought of clues that would eliminate boom+cloak or whatever, but explosion just doesn't even remotely hit anything else on the list.

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06-10-2021 , 12:23 AM

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Ervin, the scenario I'm talking about is if he has a 2 clue, but it hits 3 words strongly, then he can't give that clue this turn.

I guess this is what I'm missing - if you had a nice 2 clue and everything was right wouldn't you just clue that and go unlimited - like if bomb is assassin is that really going to win blue the game? Perhaps and if you think this is the line I suppose it makes sense - obviously ideal and if we just get everything and have 2 words left while dodging boom we're in a great spot - my concern was do we want to do anything else if it's not that scenario as a precaution since we're in such great shape if everything's good

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06-10-2021 , 12:37 AM

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I'm saying if you have a 2 clue but it hits 3+ words strongly (and one of them is bad), then you can't give an unlimited clue in that spot. And then explosion is possibly meant to 0 out other word/s for a clue that we haven't been given yet.

Or maybe there's another reason which I just don't understand. But in either scenario, if explosion only hits boom, what else are we supposed to do but just go down our list?

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06-10-2021 , 12:44 AM

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Hmmm ok I get what you're saying now - I was thinking more if there were 3 bad words you'd want to give the clue right away so no matter what we'll be able to guess 2/3 but if you think there's mystery word #3 which explosive will get us off that could be the case. Like I said, if this is the scenario and we're right we're in fantastic shape - just wondering if either of you is compelled to move anything or hedge somehow in case we're not in that scenario

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06-10-2021 , 12:53 AM

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If we are kind of voting for an action, as we do sometimes, I say we do what it appears we have been guided to do. Like I said, because we can't see the plan does not mean we should deviate from what we assume nails has asked us to do.

He did not go bomb 0 for time and boom, and he did not give us an unlimited clue.

I vote for..

Time
Leprechaun
Cloak
soup
Scroll
Apple
pass

PS> I am not really in favour of any hedging, AE.. but I am one vote.