This seems overly harsh

It’s not nice, but “likely a game-losing decision”???

I'm here. I won't be able to claim my way out of being shot or anything.

One idea did occur to me that might be the only other useful thing in my favor not yet put forth. Just a moment.

Yeah I'll be able to be around more tomorrow for sure! Had an appointment this morning and then was helping my mother in law move some things. Also...she had this crazy thing happen where a rock or something shattered her moon roof!! it's been a bit of a day lol

So I guess I don't know where last night's kills came from, but presumably a neutral made at least one of the odd POE kills? I have to think that a neutral realizes that aao and/or CQ are not going to be in the POE at that point, and therefore needs to keep CC in the POE.

I haven't done the math on this because I haven't been the neutral needing to map my way home, but the fact that I was sincerely crediting this post near the end of the day just doesn't really match with what my plan of attack would be if I'm the potential endgame neutral.

A person also can't think that it's damning for me to oppose light clearance of RJ and also to speak positively to the reasoning above re: CC. A person can disagree with either or both, of course, but it absolutely doesn't work to theorize that I wanted to keep RJ on the table but didn't have nearly the same impulse with someone who is actually in the POE.

I realize this is all colored by perfect-info bias, and I guess you could just think I cleverly left this post in order to make this argument, but Occam's razor won't get you there. Anyway, I figured I'd put it out there.

I mean I think Zurvan is a villager up there with SGT and that if he's a villager he deserves to win.

And I trust my CC read. It might be wrong but I trust it. I trust LKJ some and I trust Sun the least.

I don't understand the logic about aao and cq not being in the poe or of neutrals killing one of them. Makes no sense to me.

Well...entirely possible that that's just my gills showing. I assumed that three kills wouldn't all be villagers. But I haven't paid attention to mechanics at all.

So now you have to consider the question of whether I actually believed in the above argument! Have fun.

Even assuming the neutral wasn't setting up to kill anyone at night, there's still really no reason that I as hypothetical endgame neutral would want to credit any notion in CC's favor. Unless she's my neutral partner, I guess. I'm assuming Treep is going to flip orange.

Praying that Zurvan kills Sun and it ends the game.
Fearing it doesn't. I do sort of have a hard time seeing not Sun not just give up in this spot...but he might be is the problem.

Yeah this. They were both solidly being voted at EOD right?

This feels like TMI. I mean I hope Treep flips neut but there's still the possibility that she won't. In that case, you/sun, you/zurvan are totally possible. And a Zurvan/sun team is totally possible.

I recognize that this argument is on the tedious side and may have no impact at all, but: I only say the first sentence in the above if I believe a neutral killed aao or CQ. They're not even remotely odd kills by a villager.

Basically, just go ahead and believe that I'm a villager because I'm a poor bumpkin with no actual capacity for conniving, and I'm posting with purity of heart. Of all the ways I've tried to survive as a baddie, trying to derp-clear myself is just nothing I've ever done or expect I would do. I'm way too attached to the desire for people to think that I'm smart.

Player Question:

VR: Yes

OMG my boss asked me for a recommendation on something and is giving me a hard time about not recommending what he wanted and I finished work an hour ago

This is not the headspace for me to be making LIFE CHANGING decisions like "who do we execute in a werewolf game"

Zurvan,
Continue to not say anything about your class or acknowledge anything related to it btw.

...how could it both be TMI and then also I'm in a neutral team when it's wrong?

Re: Nich's comment that my post was "harsh", I just meant that, in terms of the game state, if zurvan and LKJ are both villagers when coder is the consensus shot, then yes, it would cut down on the village's win percentage considerably if v!z shoots v!lkj, especially if treep was also a villager

I'm burning my last post because I think the clear play, if allowed, is to no lunch before 6 and get the info from treep before lunching again at 10. Hold shots if there are still two neutrals left alive.

Yeah Monte makes sense.

Agreed

I'll be putting in the order in the next few minutes

So we're no lunching and then a night is happening?

yep

And if Treep is a villager everyone is holding fire

What part would be wrong? Unless you mean me and you on a team. I read that kinda weird but the Treep comment pinged me as TMI

Did I miss something? Are there two lynches today?

I don’t like no execution...we don’t know how many kills the neutrals have or will earn

So by not executing anybody we are reducing our execution to NK ratio which only hurts us


Strongly against that