Will have to start fraleying my range.

I kinda buy this, JM3

But would Prip be more likely to have ~no thread presence and sort of peace out as a villager (heh) or the chameleon? I'm not familiar with his meta

I can see eb taking this line in both roles, but I do find his tone fairly natural and convincing

Of course, saying "I'll explain in postgame" is a fairly unexploitable chameleon strat in the first instance if you can have good tone while doing it

So

It's tough for me to explain without outright saying (or heavily insinuating) what the correct answer is.

Let's try this question which is occasionally borderline helpful in WW...

...if you claim not to be the chameleon, can you talk a bit about how your strategy would differ if you were the chameleon?

I think I can buy the general sentiment, & think that he's still the chameleon. Like if he was a villa(?) it would be a bad strategy because he thinks we spewed the correct answer.

Or, he wants us to think that we did so if we have any doubt over who's the chameleon, we'll pick Prip because what's the point in picking eb if he's already figured out the answer, even if he has more chameleon equity?

Honestly don't think I know the answer to this.

Especially here in Game 1, where my strategy has been terrible as one of the good guys.

This is just like my WW game. Always an obvious villa, rarely do anything useful besides clear myself haha.

To your last question, it still minimizes damage done (assuming eb is chameleon). But yeah, I see what you're saying

Let's take a step back in a vacuum: between Prip and eyebooger, whose clue seems most likely to be given by someone with zero knowledge of what the word is? I think we can talk about that without talking about the word itself by gauging the generic-ness of each clue

As I said, at least 9 of 16 games on that list are plausibly "casual"

How many plausibly involve a board? I count...8?

Monopoly
Scrabble
Risk
Backgammon
Clue
Chess
Checkers
Trivial Pursuit

Not sure about Guess Who

...so basically they seem like equally generic clues

lol

eyebooger coming out immediately and fingering me and you is just so weird

I think it's pretty smart as chameleon because they're two words that you might not associate with the same game for the most part. So creating that dichotomy might be able to get him more information.

I think I can clear myself, but I'd have to explain my thinking completely (i.e. completely give away the answer publicly)

If you're in favor let me know, and I'll list out my thoughts and clear myself.

We'll cost ourselves one point (which I think we've lost anyway), but hopefully won't lose two points by voting for me.

That's an interesting proposition, but of course if you're the chameleon and have already guessed the answer, it's a freeroll for you

just to put this in perspective:

e_holle says he thinks the chameleon is obviously eb, and he hasn't been around much

Prip said out of the gate that his top lean is eb, although I didn't find his tone overall super convincing and would love for him to come back and elaborate

Since JM3 is also seemingly leaning eb right now, that basically makes my vote immaterial

Not to put the pressure on you, JM

I'm going to bed soon but will wake up in time to vote before the deadline

Here, catching up

I'm leaning, but I can be dissuaded. I didn't even realize there were points & stuff. How do they work exactly?

It's at the very bottom of the first post.

Not much to elaborate on when it comes to my initial eb lean, tbh. It seems pretty obvious to me based on the rest of the clues that it’s him. I do think that my clue is the most general of the remaining (Gad I think you’re just missing the connection), which makes it even weirder that he chose to go after JM3/Gad right off the bat. I’m about 98% confident here and really don’t want to say much more unless there’s a legitimate debate.

Hmm. I feel like there should be a personal incentive to guess the right chameleon, but oh well.

I think the idea is that we play with this set of players 6 times, with each person "dealing" once. Then we total the scores at the end of that set of games to determine winner(s).

edit: Nvm, I think I see what you're saying. You think anyone who votes correctly should get a point, even if they're not in the majority.

Yup. I think that would add another interesting layer. Although it would give incentive to get too inquisitive.

So maybe like:
1 point correct chameleon guess (individual)

3 points chameleon gets away (chameleon)

2 points for chameleon if they get got, but still guess the word

Or whatever the balanced thing is. I'm not sure.

Okay, so I think we're at the point where I have to explain myself.

My casual word was to clue in that it wasn't a super serious game. A game where there aren't tournaments and this isn't competitive outside your own friend group.

I then saw the clues of Gad, e_holle and JM3 all at once. I instantly cleared e_holle, though I think his clue was really bad because how many games there involve teams? I'm counting one.

At first glance I thought Gad's and JM3's clues were bad. I don't know why I had this in my head and don't know what I was looking for, but I did. Then I saw Prip's clue and said to myself "yeah, that works" and put the blame back on Gad and JM3 without thinking.

After further consideration, I see that both Gad's and JM3's clues are good and that I was wrong. It's mostly my fault if we end up losing, but I promise to be better next round.

Can you elaborate on why you thought Prip's clue worked without (literally) giving the game away?

All of these games are team games when you have small children.

The game has a board. Though they pretty much all do, which is the part I wasn't thinking about when I said the clue was good.

I can't really participate in the free-for-all portion right now, being at work. Also, since I don't play ww, I don't have a feel for this style of play. While my clue may not have been the best, there are several games which can be played by teams.