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08-25-2021 , 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Gabethebabe
cliffs?
They are still letting Fantoni still play in big events after this video

https://youtu.be/TKe7gLTfaF8
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08-25-2021 , 01:39 AM
Long story short Fantoni Nunes played a seemingly complex carding where you would either show an honor or odd cards, or no honor with even cards.

Meh I don't remember what it was specifically. But basically they gave nothing to opponents. But the direction of the card faced gave the count and attitude to partner while not giving anything away

Last edited by chuckleslovakian; 08-25-2021 at 01:44 AM.
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08-25-2021 , 01:43 AM
But letting Fantoni play again in any event is shameful. I would argue if my local club let him play.
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08-25-2021 , 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by chuckleslovakian
Long story short Fantoni Nunes played a seemingly complex carding where you would either show an honor or odd cards, or no honor with even cards.

Meh I don't remember what it was specifically. But basically they gave nothing to opponents. But the direction of the card faced gave the count and attitude to partner while not giving anything away
They played Slawinski leads which I don't really know since I never played them but the gist was that they would lead the same card from xxx as they would from Hxxx (or any case with the same number of x's). Then they signaled whether they had an honour in the suit with the direction of the card.

So they were basically giving bulletproof count and attitude with every opening lead.

Of course as people who played against them a lot have brought up repeatedly, this was the cheating method that got them caught, and not the only cheating method they allegedly used.
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08-27-2021 , 11:28 PM
I gotta say, every team in the Euro qualifier holding strong and giving the middle finger to Italy had been quite something. Will be fascinating to see what comes from this.
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08-28-2021 , 02:28 AM
I find it incredible that the Italian team isn't withdrawing

For me the correct decision of whoever is in charge is to lifelong ban FF from international bridge competitions and accept being sued by this lowlife POS. Any kind of financial compensation should then be carried by the entire bridge community, because it was their wish for this to happen
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09-16-2021 , 04:30 PM
When I entered one of my mod gimmick accounts, I found an unread PM that was sent in january 2020 and it hit me pretty hard

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Originally Posted by feedmykids2
Also just wanted to say I appreciate all you do for POG and your focus on game integrity. I was just needling you so don’t feel bad There was no ill intent and it really didn’t matter haha
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09-16-2021 , 06:10 PM
Yeah, goat
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09-16-2021 , 06:30 PM
A frequent teammate of mine, Samantha Punch just published a book with interviews of great bridge players.

Feedmykids is on the cover : Bridge at the Top: Behind the Screens
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09-22-2021 , 09:06 PM
The legend's sister is running for mayor of LA:

https://www.jessicalallformayor.com/...of-los-angeles
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10-04-2021 , 11:06 AM
Looks like NABC Austin is looking like it's on. Anyone interested in playing some there?
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11-01-2021 , 11:29 PM
So played against a pair online today. Hand 1 they found the killer lead, but seemed normal. Hand 2 partner opens 1S, I bid 1NT. North finds a R/W 2H overcall with xx/Txxxx/xxx/AKx. South finds just a 3H bid with AKQTx/QJ98/Q87/2. Yeah okay. Hand 3 south leads a heart from J/AJ9xx/Qxxx/J94 after a 1C-1S-2S auction right into partners Kxx.

(for the record we got above average on all three boards)

Just 3 hands doesn't mean anything. But this pair had been averaging 59% over the past month which is insanely good for a pair willing to overcall like that. There were a few hands in their hand history that were lol, but this one took the cake

shorturl.at/cjuIL

(yes I did put in a recorder memo)
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11-02-2021 , 12:09 AM
Link dead.
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11-02-2021 , 12:57 AM
I swear I checked it twice. ****ing URL shorteners dying, and BBO movies making them needed

https://www.bridgebase.com/myhands/h...ername=Pellegg

The 6C hand
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11-02-2021 , 03:22 AM
Lol
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11-02-2021 , 11:34 AM
Yes, that is beyond bad. Too bad ACBL is woefully understaffed and hasn't figured out a way to streamline the process of booting players like this.

Have you sent this pair to Nicolas Hammond? Easy to contact on BW.
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11-03-2021 , 08:17 AM
Cannot see the hand without account
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11-03-2021 , 09:31 AM
Cliff notes on the hand:

Guy opens a strong NT with 2425 over Stayman +3NT, he decides to bid 4C with his Qxxxx of clubs, catches partner with AKJx of clubs who bids a laydown 6C.
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11-04-2021 , 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by 3for3poker
Yes, that is beyond bad. Too bad ACBL is woefully understaffed and hasn't figured out a way to streamline the process of booting players like this.

Have you sent this pair to Nicolas Hammond? Easy to contact on BW.
He had them #69 (no seriously) on his list of 1000 suspicious pairs which is apparently in the trivial to prove range.
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11-04-2021 , 07:37 PM
Yes, that makes sense. That one hand is an extreme smoking gun, and not too smart at that. If one wanted to cheat on this hand, let the responder rebid 3C. Having the opener bid over 3NT is like a first grader with his hand in the cookie jar.
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11-05-2021 , 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by 3for3poker
Yes, that makes sense. That one hand is an extreme smoking gun, and not too smart at that. If one wanted to cheat on this hand, let the responder rebid 3C. Having the opener bid over 3NT is like a first grader with his hand in the cookie jar.
I don't know for sure, but I think his formula is largely based on leads. Which makes sense. If you are running a test over tens of thousands of hands, hard for computer to test BS auctions like that 6C. But I think he was largely testing how often an underlead of an ace worked. So funny enough I think the hand I gave where he underled an ace would have triggered Hammond's algorithm more than the 6C hand, though the 6C hand is much more obvious.

But that being said...#69 is trivially easy to prove...looking at his facebook page he still has #121 at trivially easy to prove...sigh...
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11-05-2021 , 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by chuckleslovakian
I don't know for sure, but I think his formula is largely based on leads. Which makes sense. If you are running a test over tens of thousands of hands, hard for computer to test BS auctions like that 6C. But I think he was largely testing how often an underlead of an ace worked. So funny enough I think the hand I gave where he underled an ace would have triggered Hammond's algorithm more than the 6C hand, though the 6C hand is much more obvious.

But that being said...#69 is trivially easy to prove...looking at his facebook page he still has #121 at trivially easy to prove...sigh...
I know the last 2 pairs to resign to avoid a hearing. I am sure there are plenty more on that list. The one upside I can see is that, maybe the game will be cleaner when we go back to live play.
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11-08-2021 , 11:39 AM
I'm planning to play some portion of tomorrow and Wed - if anyone is around in LV, say hello. Haven't held cards since the Vegas NABC i think.

ETA: lol, just looked. I did play in Feb 2020 at the sectional and won Bracket 1 teams - we had an embarrassingly good team and scores in the 5-team bracket were apparently 72-43-37-30-18. Before that was the Wernher Pairs summer '19. Made day 2, three of four sessions over 50% and 0 awards. Love this game.

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11-09-2021 , 01:16 AM
Yeah I feel like qualifying for day 2 of a national pairs game should at least give you a platinum point just for show
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