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Had games of 62.34%, 68.37%, and 69.63% with Dad at the club this week. Maybe our best week ever. Crazy enough the 69.63 was the game we didn't win. Some other pair dropped a 75.56 game that day. Pretty rude if you ask me

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01-06-2018 , 01:08 PM

#15902

PartyGirlUK

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My parents were playing Chicago. Don't know the vulnerability or opener.

A
Kx
Txxxxxxxx
AQx

1

-1

-?

They don't play fancy conventions.

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01-06-2018 , 01:42 PM

#15903

Wyman

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You opened a diamond and p bid a spade or p opened a diamond and opps overcalled?

I'd bid 5d in the former, 2s in the latter fwiw.

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01-06-2018 , 01:48 PM

#15904

PartyGirlUK

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The former.

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01-06-2018 , 01:48 PM

#15905

Gabethebabe

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2D seems obvious. There are no further bidding problems to be expected (3D approximately always). 3D is an overbid, you do not want to hear 3NT. Sure, it could be 5D vs a hand like xxxxx, Axx, Ax, Jxx but as long as there is no fit, I prefer to remain passive

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01-06-2018 , 06:14 PM

#15906

Wyman

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yeah i mean 2d is my second choice. But we miss a lot of games that way. We want to be in 5D opp a hand like xxxxx / Axxx / xx / xx, which is sub-min.

Can easily be convinced that 5D is wrong though.

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01-07-2018 , 02:19 AM

#15907

Wyman

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actually - jesus...

you have 15 ****ing cards man

if you have 7 diamonds and the outside cards you mention its a clear 2d. If you have 9 diamonds, we need to know what outside cards you actually have.

Last edited by Wyman; 01-07-2018 at 02:25 AM. Reason: i re-read this and it sounds angry. but only w/ myself for not catching it. Am laughing while writing...

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01-07-2018 , 02:22 AM

#15908

chuckleslovakian

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Originally Posted by Wyman

dammit, I didnt catch that either

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01-08-2018 , 06:31 PM

#15909

feedmykids2

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Lollll wyman. I usually just assume 7 when I see 3-2-1 on the side but I knew that was a lot of x’s haha.

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01-08-2018 , 06:37 PM

#15910

PartyGirlUK

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Well done to Wyman for spotting my deliberate error. The hand was:

A
Kx
Txxxxxx
AQx

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01-08-2018 , 08:04 PM

#15911

Wyman

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Originally Posted by feedmykids2

Lollll wyman. I usually just assume 7 when I see 3-2-1 on the side but I knew that was a lot of x’s haha.

Haha I just looked at the hand and went man how many diamonds is that, counted 9 diamonds, and looked at what losers i needed p to cover.

I played so bad in PSP - im wayyyyy "out of shape" bridgewise. And everything else-wise I guess too

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01-09-2018 , 02:48 PM

#15912

Gabethebabe

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Haha I didn't count the diamonds, just the others and assumed they were 7. Such a trivial 2D.

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01-10-2018 , 01:41 AM

#15913

monikrazy

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Quick checkup, need to get my bridge into 2018 shape

Hero opens 1nt and ends up declaring 4s uncontested after stayman (nv all imps)

A632
T74
Aqj6
K3

Opposite
Qj875
Qj983
-(no diamonds)
Q64

Op leads j of clubs, followed by 4 from dummy, 2 from partner and won by king of clubs

What is best line to make contract?

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01-10-2018 , 04:03 PM

#15914

Gabethebabe

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Spoiler:

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01-10-2018 , 06:19 PM

#15915

Wyman

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Originally Posted by Gabethebabe

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01-10-2018 , 09:14 PM

#15916

monikrazy

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I did play ace of diamonds and after ruffing finesse lost, 2 hearts and a trump

Kx of spades was onside so the contract was makeable

Wasn't sure if I could improve my odds by a few% anywhere (like trying to crash singleton k spade) or if there is any value going for deceptive lines like running the queen of diamonds immediately planning to ruff whether n covers r not

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01-11-2018 , 03:10 AM

#15917

Gabethebabe

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You took the best line monik and the layout was such that an inferior line would have succeeded. It happens.

@Wyman: don't be a nit. It is close to a freeroll. You trade the club loser for the diamond loser and keep your options intact. You only lose if:

The Kd is off
They can organize a heart ruff
They find said heart ruff
Ks is onside and spades are 2-2

That is 4 requirements. Only if all 4 are met is the direct spade finesse the best play.

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01-11-2018 , 11:08 AM

#15918

Wyman

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I get it - just spelling it out for moni, who was trying to figure out the best line. So I walked him thru it. Also seemed like you may have missed the impending ruff. Wasn't trying to offend you lol.

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01-11-2018 , 01:04 PM

#15919

DWetzel

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So, I'll go ahead and ask, we playing 14-16 notrumps on that hand? Also, uh, Stayman?

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01-11-2018 , 10:45 PM

#15920

monikrazy

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Originally Posted by DWetzel

So, I'll go ahead and ask, we playing 14-16 notrumps on that hand? Also, uh, Stayman?

Was with an unknown, the stayman bid does seem kind of terrible in hindsight. I was nt opener. Playing 15-17 upgrading this hand seems ok.

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01-11-2018 , 11:41 PM

#15921

Wyman

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Originally Posted by monikrazy

Was with an unknown, the stayman bid does seem kind of terrible in hindsight. I was nt opener. Playing 15-17 upgrading this hand seems ok.

Based on what? Upgrading this seems awful.

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01-12-2018 , 02:06 AM

#15922

Gabethebabe

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Put T9 of spades in the hand and I would not mind, now it is not a 1NT opener.

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01-12-2018 , 02:08 AM

#15923

chuckleslovakian

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Playing with GIBs that is a snap 1NT opener. Otherwise I open that 1D.

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01-12-2018 , 03:52 AM

#15924

monikrazy

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Knr rates it 14.65, which seems about right, I was first player to act

1d is more constructive and could easily be better, I felt like make making a thin (but defensible) upgrade at the time, 1n opening can be more challenging for ops

I would not always open 1n here but if partner is strong and we are playing well I think I do everytime

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01-12-2018 , 12:50 PM

#15925

DWetzel

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Put simply, if you're "upgrading" this hand, IMO you're not actually playing a 15-17 notrump and should inform your opponents as such (obviously not a big deal on a random BBO game). This is, granted, a pet peeve of mine.

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