Bridge - Page 588 - Puzzles and Other Games Forum

Two Plus Two Forums Sports and Games Puzzles and Other Games

Bridge

Post Reply Subscribe

...

Page 588 of 673

First

88 388 488 538 568 578 583 584 585 586 587 588 589 590 591 592 593 598 608 638

Last

Page 588 of 673

First

88 388 488 538 568 578 583 584 585 586 587 588 589 590 591 592 593 598 608 638

Last

12-12-2015 , 01:23 PM

#14676

Gabethebabe

Malware Jedi

Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 27,387

What else can you do but transfer to spades and plan to bid clubs later?
it is a bit early in the auction to think about anything else

Quote

12-12-2015 , 01:30 PM

#14677

DWetzel

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 42,349

I assume it's MP btw

That does matter a lot here

Quote

12-12-2015 , 01:58 PM

#14678

dc-ohio

veteran

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 2,497

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWetzel

I assume it's MP btw

That does matter a lot here

Yes. MP

Quote

12-12-2015 , 02:06 PM

#14679

DWetzel

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 42,349

So ending in 5C is a disaster and if partner has club coverage we should still play 6S.

Quote

12-12-2015 , 02:08 PM

#14680

DWetzel

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 42,349

New plan if available: transfer to clubs and see if partner likes them?

Quote

12-12-2015 , 02:22 PM

#14681

Wyman

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 13,011

Thought about that but our system doesn't allow this - no way to play 4s later.

Quote

12-12-2015 , 02:41 PM

#14682

DWetzel

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 42,349

Yeah, that's a problem.

I think I'm OK with my first plan.

Quote

12-12-2015 , 03:03 PM

#14683

dc-ohio

veteran

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 2,497

A lot of fun hands from last night:

1D (2+) - 1S
2S - 2N! (asking)
3H! - ? (4 card raise, minimum)

You hold:

K8xxx
AKJT
Void
AQ9x

Bids you have available:

3NT (Serious slam try, partner will cue bid his lowest control)
4C (Club control, skipping 3NT shows a non-serious slam try, but in the context that you know partner is a minimum, this still shows significant extras)
4N (keycard for spades)
5D (EKCB for spades)

If you bid 3NT

Spoiler:

If you bid 4C

Spoiler:

If you bid 4N

Spoiler:

If you bid 5D

Spoiler:

Quote

12-12-2015 , 03:59 PM

#14684

atakdog

addicted

Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 50,136

If possible, 3NT followed by exclusion. If I hear a club control I can shoot for 7. If I hear no controls, or a spade singleton, then trying for slam will still be safe. the question is what to do if he shows a diamond control. I probably don't have exclusion available now, so I'm stuck with regular RKC... or am I?

If I don't have exclusion available after 3NT, I use exclusion now, bidding the slam if he has one key. (I don't ask about the queen.)

Quote

12-12-2015 , 04:27 PM

#14685

Wyman

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 13,011

5d has to be ErkC over 3n-4d -- what the hell else could it be?

Quote

12-12-2015 , 04:45 PM

#14686

Wyman

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 13,011

Thinking on this: the problem hand seems to be like

Axxx
Xxxx
AQJx
J

So it goes 3n-4c, 5d-5s, and over any further inquiry he will bid 6s. But I guess we need to distinguish from
AQxx
Xxxx
QJxx
K
Which is the nuts.
(4351s are the same concept)

You need pretty good agreements over ErkC. We play that the next step is a q ask and one over that is a king ask - I think this is a good agreement in all KC auctions (trump and NT to play where applicable don't count as steps obv). So here it could go 5n-6c 7s.

Quote

12-12-2015 , 07:15 PM

#14687

stripsqueez

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 3,757

bid 6S - always playable and likely an excellent contract

partner could have the miracle with AQ of spades, Q of hearts and K of clubs but I can't find all of that - if partner has AQ of spades and the club K grand is still most likely a hook and not in the territory where I am happy to bash it

precision right ? - presumably partner is 11-12 unbalanced for "4 card support minimum" ? - I have never really understood what precision players do with the balanced 11-12 hands when they play a (12)13-15 1nt opening

Quote

12-12-2015 , 08:32 PM

#14688

dc-ohio

veteran

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 2,497

Quote:

Originally Posted by stripsqueez

Precision is correct. 4 card minimum can still be balanced here. We play a 14-16 1NT opening, so he could have a bad balanced 11 here.

Quote

12-12-2015 , 10:10 PM

#14689

stripsqueez

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 3,757

Quote:

Originally Posted by dc-ohio

We play a 14-16 1NT opening

I play a decent amount against a bunch of good career precision players - I think they all play 1nt as 12-15 but I would prefer protecting the integrity of my 1nt and 1C opening rather than trying to limit my stinky 1D opening so FWIW I like 1nt as 14-16

Quote

12-12-2015 , 11:43 PM

#14690

dc-ohio

veteran

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 2,497

12-15 is kind of a strange range in my opinion. I've played precision with both 11-13 and 14-16 1NT ranges, and either work pretty well.

Quote

12-13-2015 , 12:45 AM

#14691

brrrrr

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 4,371

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWetzel

To play 4S as quickly as possible. Sorry if partner has AKxx clubs and the heart ace, they had a good save in 7D anyway.

i see there are still a lot of posts below this one, and i assume they're all lol'ing at you, but in case they're not, lol.

Quote

12-13-2015 , 12:48 AM

#14692

brrrrr

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 4,371

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gabethebabe

What else can you do but transfer to spades and plan to bid clubs later?
it is a bit early in the auction to think about anything else

good question, what else can you do but transfer to spades and bid clubs (twice!)

Quote

12-13-2015 , 01:15 AM

#14693

feedmykids2

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 4,527

I would be surprised if a sim did not prefer 1N 6S to 1N 4S (as in, I think opposite a 14-16 NT I am >50 % to make 6S. This is especially true on a blind lead IRL where they might lead wrong).

But yeah no need to guess now, I sympathize with the view that blasting is better than searching for the perfecta slam with a lot of shape since it's more likely to help the opps get in if you go slow, but here I think slam is way too likely to make to take that approach.

Quote

12-13-2015 , 02:53 AM

#14694

dc-ohio

veteran

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 2,497

Here's another delicate auction from friday night...

R/W matchpoints

1C! (16+any) - 1H! (8-11 any)
2D-2S (natural, 5 card)
3C-3D
?

KJ
KQ
AQT75
K987

Quote

12-13-2015 , 02:59 AM

#14695

chuckleslovakian

LYNCH DURRON597

Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 35,895

Given how it is MPs, I can't see bypassing 3NT

Quote

12-13-2015 , 03:53 AM

#14696

Gabethebabe

Malware Jedi

Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 27,387

Why am I bidding 2D when I should be bidding 1NT

As played, 3s now. Since I did not support spades directly, this ought to show a doubleton.

3H 4th suit should be fine too, If partner bids 3NT, we pass, if not we play 4S or 5D.

3NT is just bad. I'd do that if I had AQ, not KQ. This stopper is too feeble to play NT oppositite a partner with 8+ cards in spades and diamonds.

Quote

12-13-2015 , 04:08 AM

#14697

chuckleslovakian

LYNCH DURRON597

Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 35,895

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gabethebabe

Had a drink or two, yes this is more correct

Quote

12-13-2015 , 04:27 AM

#14698

Gabethebabe

Malware Jedi

Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 27,387

I think actually 3H is much better than 3S. If you bid diamonds, clubs and then support spades, you show a really feeble heart holding, while you actually have KQ.

3H sounds more like: I'm interested in 3NT, how about you?

Quote

12-13-2015 , 11:22 AM

#14699

dc-ohio

veteran

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 2,497

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gabethebabe

2=2=(54) is not a typical shape for our 1NT here.

Quote

12-13-2015 , 11:44 AM

#14700

DWetzel

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 42,349

2D was fine, but how about 2NT over 2S? If all partner does is raise to 3NT it's right, if he wants to introduce clubs we can discuss that, we may get time to make a 3S preference. Really I see zero downside to it.

Quote

Page 588 of 673

First

88 388 488 538 568 578 583 584 585 586 587 588 589 590 591 592 593 598 608 638

Last

Post Reply Subscribe

...

Page 588 of 673

First

88 388 488 538 568 578 583 584 585 586 587 588 589 590 591 592 593 598 608 638

Last