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Edgar Kaplan had this one right: "The results throughout this match seem to point to a strange conclusion: can it be that it pays to bid with strong hands, and to pass with weak ones?"

I mean, fine, you're third seat, if you want to try a weak 2S I'm fine with that; if you want to try 3S I'd think you're nuts but I'd admire the gumption. You're vulnerable at IMPs though.

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04-09-2015 , 10:52 AM

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monikrazy

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Partner opened 1h, not sure how I left that out. Sorry folks.

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04-09-2015 , 11:18 AM

#13203

DWetzel

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Yeah that's a relevant change and now I don't hate partner, so that's nice.

After 1H - 1S, 2H, I will bid 2S and hope partner finds a bid other than 3H. I should have a more forward going back hand than this and passing could easily be right (and objectively probably is), but I'm still trying to find a plus score.

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04-09-2015 , 01:42 PM

#13204

dc-ohio

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Matchpoints, white/red

AT
x
AT9x
AKQ9xx

RHO deals and opens 2H.

What is your plan?

If you choose to bid 3C

Spoiler:

If you choose to bid 3H

Spoiler:

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04-09-2015 , 01:57 PM

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monikrazy

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I think I prefer starting with a double (KNR has this hand worth 22.85 points). Its possible we play 4S on a 5-2 fit when we belong somewhere else, but 3C seems like an underbid, and double seems most likely to get us to any slam we belong in.

If I choose another option:

Spoiler:

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04-09-2015 , 01:58 PM

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Wyman

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Originally Posted by DWetzel

Maybe it's the poker player in me, but I hear enough people say "trust your vulnerable opponents" that I think opps will be hard-pressed to feel good about defending 3Sx. +1430 or better is a strong favorite to be on lefty's mind.

I'm a firm believer in making opps guess. When they guess wrong, they often implode, especially when you've stepped out a bit. Again, maybe it's the poker player in me, but meta-game is a real thing. Even if they guess right, maybe I go for 1100 vs 650? I think that's offset by the times I go for 800/1100 vs 1430.

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04-09-2015 , 04:19 PM

#13207

Gabethebabe

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dc-ohio

Matchpoints, white/red

AT
x
AT9x
AKQ9xx

RHO deals and opens 2H.

What is your plan?

In this spot I play 4C as C/S and 4D as D/S, 3H is asking for stopper. So that means that 3C is not an option because 3H >>>>>>>>3C. It is between dbl and 3H imo. I think with this vulnerability I choose dbl

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04-09-2015 , 04:24 PM

#13208

Gabethebabe

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Originally Posted by monikrazy

IMPs all vul, pick your poison

Partner is dealer
next player passes
you pick up

JT6xxx
(void hearts)
95
QJT97

Part 1. If 2S is available as a weak bid, do you use it?

Part 2. Assume you bid 1S and partner rebids 2H (ops silent). Should you bid 2S now, or is a tactical pass likely to score better (running to 2s if ops double)?

If partner opens 1H and I can bid 2S as weak, I still prefer 1S, because my hand is not just spades, I have a bunch of clubs as well. Over 2H I pass, because in my system 2S is INV.

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04-09-2015 , 04:26 PM

#13209

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Originally Posted by Gabethebabe

for the doublers....

If you double, partner responds 3S

(2H)-X-(P)-3S
(P)-?

You are playing lebensohl over 2 level takeouts, so partner had 2S as non forcing, 2N->3C-3S as invitational. 3S should show a GF hand opposite a takeout with 5+ spades (3H from partner would show exactly 4 spades with no heart stop, 2N->3C-3H 4 spades with a heart stop)

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04-09-2015 , 04:32 PM

#13210

Gabethebabe

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sucks obviously, but I'd do 6C over 3S.

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04-09-2015 , 04:51 PM

#13211

DWetzel

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Double (maybe partner can sit it!) and then 4 forcing clubs.

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04-09-2015 , 07:54 PM

#13212

dc-ohio

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Here was our auction:

(2H)-3C-(P)-3S
(P)-4D-(P)-4S
(P)-4N-(P)-5C
(P)-5D-(P)-6H
(P)-6S-AP

Partner had

QJ987xx
AKx
Jxx
Void

6S making 7 when the stiff onside K comes down on trick 2. There were alot of 4S+3, and some 4/5/6 club contracts down a few when LHO has JTxxx

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04-09-2015 , 08:04 PM

#13213

stripsqueez

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Originally Posted by Gabethebabe

sucks obviously, but I'd do 6C over 3S.

I think double first is normal - after 3S I am worried about superior small slams (and the grand) to just bid 6C - the field is likely getting to slam when I have a rock and partner is game forcing opposite a takeout double of 2H and it's matchpoints

I don't have a neat auction (depending on your methods) and I will probably be guessing at some point but it won't be much worse than guessing 6C is right and will have more upside

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04-10-2015 , 02:05 PM

#13214

DWetzel

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Anyone available for this evening for some bbo? Wife and I need some practice. Not sure what time but maybe 9:00 server time or so?

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04-12-2015 , 11:44 PM

#13215

monikrazy

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V vs NV at imps

(2s) P (4s) ...

-
JT95
AJ943
AQJ9

whats your bid?
assuming you don't pass how do you decide whether double or 4N (ostensibly 2 places to play) is better?

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04-13-2015 , 12:42 AM

#13216

Wyman

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X is 3 places to play (well, it's cards -- it says "sit unless you've got a suit, in which case, by all means")

What's partner going to do over 4N with 3523? And if you're going to bid 5D over 5C, oops, partner's 3325.

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04-13-2015 , 12:59 AM

#13217

DWetzel

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Plus partner and his 3334 and a trick or two might just sit for it, which could be our last plus score.

(Or our smallest minus if he's xxx xxx xxx xxxx)

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04-13-2015 , 01:21 AM

#13218

chuckleslovakian

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Been playing versus GIB while watching new Game of Thrones. Suck it GIB

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04-13-2015 , 01:23 AM

#13219

Wyman

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lol i went +960 today vs bridgebaron

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04-13-2015 , 02:19 AM

#13220

chuckleslovakian

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Got it to 300. Might have to call it a night there

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04-13-2015 , 02:53 AM

#13221

feedmykids2

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prop bet incoming +2000 imps without sleeping? lol

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04-13-2015 , 03:37 AM

#13222

chuckleslovakian

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Oh god. Play a board a minute, at the rate I was winning IMPs, that does come to about 21-22 hours. That seems possible, but god that would be a rough time.