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08-05-2013 , 02:14 AM

#10701

chuckleslovakian

LYNCH DURRON597

Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 35,896

Dallas GOAT NABC?

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08-05-2013 , 02:19 AM

#10702

Brother Chuck

enthusiast

Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 98

Gonna have a hard time beating Louisville

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08-05-2013 , 11:43 AM

#10703

atakdog

addicted

Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 50,136

I think I'd double with the 0=5=6=2, because though we've shown an offensive 5=6, we could bid that way without the aces.

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08-05-2013 , 12:27 PM

#10704

PlzBeALevel

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 30,877

I doubled. Partner had 4-2-2-5 with the Queen of Spades, Ace of Clubs and a couple spots. Red suits split so 4

went -2 for 300 but we can make 5 of either red suit.

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08-05-2013 , 12:43 PM

#10705

atakdog

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Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 50,136

That's on partner. Given his shape and the rest of the auction, your spade void is pretty clear, and his lack of spade strength suggests that opps are bidding primarily on spades. He knows you combine for at least eight diamonds, and the club ace will usually often losers in that suit to zero (when there are pitches available) and always to one, so imo at this vulnerability he should pull to 5D.

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08-05-2013 , 12:51 PM

#10706

DWetzel

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 42,349

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Originally Posted by PlzBeALevel

3rd seat, r/w matchpoints

AKxxx

AKxxxx

xx

p-(p)-1

-(2

)-p-(p)-3

-(p)-3nt-(4

)- ????

I think you can double here. It doesn't have to work.

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08-05-2013 , 12:52 PM

#10707

DWetzel

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 42,349

Quote:

Originally Posted by PlzBeALevel

I doubled. Partner had 4-2-2-5 with the Queen of Spades, Ace of Clubs and a couple spots. Red suits split so 4

went -2 for 300 but we can make 5 of either red suit.

welp, stuff happens

really, I don't think it's terrible to take this kind of result -- the red suits really don't have to split like that and then you're trading a plus for a minus.

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08-05-2013 , 12:56 PM

#10708

atakdog

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Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 50,136

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWetzel

I think you can double here. It doesn't have to work.

Worth remembering, always. You are trying to maximize the expected value of your score (approximately), not to find guaranteed results. At matchpoints, you double if on the information you have, this will be better than the alternatives 51% of the time. At IMPs, it's a slightly different calculation but the same general idea.

Every bridge player needs to get used to absorbing wrong results, because they happen.

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08-05-2013 , 12:57 PM

#10709

atakdog

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Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 50,136

Btw, at IMPs I probably pass. What partner should do when it rolls to him, I don't know. Bid, probably, in this case to avoid the risk of a double game swing.

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08-05-2013 , 01:00 PM

#10710

DWetzel

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 42,349

BTW, I'd have given serious consideration to bidding 4H instead of 3H, because that's how I roll. That, too, does not have to work -- but when I then double 4S, things will be that much clearer.

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08-05-2013 , 01:07 PM

#10711

atakdog

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Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 50,136

At IMPS, red, I think 4H would have been correct. At matchpoints I don't think it is, but you do have a point that it's worth thinking about.

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08-05-2013 , 01:28 PM

#10712

DWetzel

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Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 42,349

Well, I mean, the thing is, we're approximately never passing 3S if that comes back to us, and we're really going to have a nagging feeling we're missing 4H if partner passes our double (which is the only sensible call at that point).

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08-05-2013 , 05:37 PM

#10713

PlzBeALevel

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 30,877

I'd love to get a game going tonight.

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08-05-2013 , 06:24 PM

#10714

Nicholasp27

27th level thinker

Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 83,160

I'll prolly be on to play about 8ish and after

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08-05-2013 , 06:57 PM

#10715

atakdog

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Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 50,136

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Originally Posted by DWetzel

Sure. But 3S may not come back. Partner is allowed to have QT8xx xx x Q8xxx, which I haven't worked out but I think means 3H is about right.

Further, he's allowed to have KJ9xx T9 J9 KT8xx, where 3NT is the right contract. In fact, leaving 3NT open is probably the best reason to keep things low(ish), at any form of scoring.

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08-05-2013 , 06:58 PM

#10716

atakdog

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Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 50,136

I may play — depends on when 'pup calls to be picked up from his friend's. (I am soooo tempted to let him drive on his own, even though he's not sixteen yet.)

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08-05-2013 , 07:30 PM

#10717

PartyGirlUK

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 23,530

I will play.

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08-05-2013 , 08:14 PM

#10718

monikrazy

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 28,055

i'm in

currently: pbal and capn playing, me and brr kibbing

show up at the table and we maybe get a team match running

my sn: monikrazy

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08-05-2013 , 11:45 PM

#10719

PlzBeALevel

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 30,877

Everyone should fill out a fantasy Spingold bracket on bridgewinners. It's free and you get $500 and a challenge match versus a BW team where POG could strut its stuff.

Plus it doesn't look as if fmk is playing so we're not at a disadvantage by being obliged to pick him to do well anymore.

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08-06-2013 , 03:02 AM

#10720

Myrmidon7328

veteran

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,133

We should also probably diversify to maximize changes of POG vs good people happening.

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08-06-2013 , 06:24 AM

#10721

Gabethebabe

Malware Jedi

Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 27,388

Quote:

Originally Posted by PlzBeALevel

I doubled. Partner had 4-2-2-5 with the Queen of Spades, Ace of Clubs and a couple spots. Red suits split so 4

went -2 for 300 but we can make 5 of either red suit.

Seems fairly standard to defend 4S doubled here.

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08-06-2013 , 09:23 AM

#10722

vuroth

old hand

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,213

Assuming my life doesn't blow up, I'll likely drop in on BBO tonight, if anyone's around.

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08-06-2013 , 09:27 AM

#10723

atakdog

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Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 50,136

Glad I got to play a few hands with some of y'all last night; sorry I had to run to play chauffeur.

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08-06-2013 , 11:14 AM

#10724

Siegmund

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,165

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We should also probably diversify to maximize changes of POG vs good people happening.

I try to be around Monday nights if I can be, knowing there is likely to be a POG game.

I also have a regular date with a good non-POG partner Wednesdays at 8 mountain / 10 eastern and we are often hunting for solid (or at least not insane) opps.