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01-19-2011 , 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Wyman
I was kidding, sorry. Clearly I'm not going to expect beer from the guy.
OK. Sorry, sense of humor seems to have deserted me today.


Edit: totp @5000!










Last edited by atakdog; 01-19-2011 at 05:28 PM.
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01-19-2011 , 09:31 PM
Have we changed this from a bridge thread to a bridge thread?
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01-19-2011 , 09:34 PM
Yes, we have. My contribution:

Spoiler:
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01-20-2011 , 01:02 AM
kill it with fire omg
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01-20-2011 , 01:52 AM
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01-20-2011 , 04:23 AM
Playing on BBO. My partner just led against 3NTx and then requested an undo.

I smiled.
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01-20-2011 , 11:27 AM
3N MP, opps silent:

Dummy:
AJ7x
10x
96x
9876

Hand:
Qx
AJx
AQ10x
AK10x

Lead is the 10 of spades. Ostensibly standard leads and carding, but you've never seen LHO before, and righty has signs of cognitive function but is pretty bad from what you've seen.

You duck the lead to your queen and cash a top club, LHO following with the Q. Your next move?

Spoiler:
If you cash another top club, LHO plays the 5. When you play the 10 next, righty wins (LHO 7) and bangs down the K. Presumably you win, play a club to dummy, and run the 9, losing to LHO's J. Now the 9 is returned.

Last edited by Wyman; 01-20-2011 at 11:33 AM.
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01-20-2011 , 11:33 AM
The spade 9 got played twice, once on opening lead and once in your spoiler.
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01-20-2011 , 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by atakdog
The spade 9 got played twice, once on opening lead and once in your spoiler.
Thanks, corrected.
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01-20-2011 , 11:37 AM
This is a complex hand, but I think I'll
Spoiler:
cash the top club, because it's not a terrible play in isolation and if it works I'll have a guaranteed board entry.

Given that this loses, I play as in the spoiler above by playing the club ten next, hoping RHO will stupidly win it and not exit another club. However, on the lead of the heart king I duck.

If he continues hearts I win, cross to the board with the fourth club (what do opps pitch?), and run the diamond 9 even though your spoiler tells me that was wrong.

What spade gets returned?
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01-20-2011 , 11:38 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wyman
Thanks, corrected.
Ah, that actually changes things — now the lead may actually be normal; may rethink my line.
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01-20-2011 , 11:45 AM
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Last edited by Wyman; 01-20-2011 at 11:45 AM. Reason: dont want to give away too much if youre changing lines
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01-20-2011 , 11:45 AM
OK, given that I instead:
Spoiler:
win the second heart (assuming he continues the suit), cash the third (pitching a diamond from dummy), cross to the board in clubs (what gets pitched?), and now my play in diamonds depends on whether any spades have been pitched — I may have set up my spade 7.
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01-20-2011 , 11:47 AM
The full deal:

LHO:
Spoiler:
K1098x/Qxxx/KJx/Q


RHO:
Spoiler:
6x/K98x/xxx/Jxxx
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01-20-2011 , 11:48 AM
Spoiler:
I think it may have been an error to lead the club to dummy rather than try the spade hook earlier (which preserves our SA in case RHO is being tricky) and knocks out RHO's eventual heart entries.

Now, I think we have to hook SJ and hope that it wins so we can take a second diamond hook, which may lose but we'll have 9 tricks (3 clubs, 2 of all else) before they can get five (a spade, a club, two diamonds, and the HQ). Playing to the SA sets up their spade trick for them.

If RHO actually has the SK, we're probably hosed, though it may be possible to steppingstone back into a spade winner after all (H Qx, D Ax to throw LHO in to lead to the SA). I'm really not seeing the ball well on this hand though.
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01-20-2011 , 11:55 AM
I saw your redacted post.
Spoiler:
I did duck the heart and play the jack to the second one; assuming the spade nine comes back I win (?) the jack and run the diamond 9, which I know loses. But now my transportation is messed up, dammit — I can't squeeze LHO out of his spade guard, I don't think.

What does he return?
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01-20-2011 , 12:05 PM
I don't know. I posted the hands, so you can take your best guess.

At the table, I played on the line in my first spoiler, deciding I'd double-hook diamonds for 9. But this is kind of silly. In hindsight, I think I should hook the spade after winning the ace of hearts to combine chances.

Against good opponents, I'll always finesse the SJ on this line, because there's no reason for RHO to create me a board entry if diamonds are on.
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01-20-2011 , 04:07 PM
I've got a handful from last night, the above being just one I got wrong.

Good opps, r/w, MP:

KJTxx/A/KJ9xx/Ax

(P)-1C-(P)-1S;
(2H)-2S-(5H)-?
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01-20-2011 , 04:09 PM
Playing support doubles?
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01-20-2011 , 04:10 PM
Also, multi 2D is allowed at our club, provided a defense is provided.

LHO opens 2D r/r, alerted. P asks. RHO says a weak 2 in either H or S, and they have an ACBL-prepared defense for us if we'd like. P says "no" and doubles.

WTFFFFFFFFFFF?

Kxx/Kxxx/AQx/Qxx
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01-20-2011 , 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by atakdog
Playing support doubles?
"no support doubles or any of that crap. keep it simple and just play bridge."
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01-20-2011 , 04:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wyman
I've got a handful from last night, the above being just one I got wrong.

Good opps, r/w, MP:

KJTxx/A/KJ9xx/Ax

(P)-1C-(P)-1S;
(2H)-2S-(5H)-?
*shrug* 6S, I guess. If I'm down, I'm down. My second choice would be 5NT (pick a slam) just in case 6D is somehow the magical spot.

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Originally Posted by Wyman
Also, multi 2D is allowed at our club, provided a defense is provided.

LHO opens 2D r/r, alerted. P asks. RHO says a weak 2 in either H or S, and they have an ACBL-prepared defense for us if we'd like. P says "no" and doubles.

WTFFFFFFFFFFF?

Kxx/Kxxx/AQx/Qxx
Throw stop card at partner, then bid 3NT seems like the play.
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01-20-2011 , 04:14 PM
Assuming yes (and probably even if not), 5NT is grand slam force here — you should be able to find out whether pard has the spade AQ (assuming you're playing a robust version). If he does, the grand needs him to have the diamond ace and something else — diamond queen (or a hook) may be enough, good clubs with the king may be enough. There are 18 HCP outstanding (outside of hearts, which pard does not have most of the time). After you account for the spade honors there are twelve. If pard has the right six, seven is there — unfortunately it's tough to pin down the diamond ace.

I think I bid 7S if pard shows two trump honors. If it turns out I don't have the methods to find that out, I subside in 6, as there are too many hands pard can have that don't make the grand.
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01-20-2011 , 04:15 PM
dude atak, we're not playing support doubles. Do you think we're playing some intelligent version of GSF?
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01-20-2011 , 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by DWetzel
*shrug* 6S, I guess. If I'm down, I'm down. My second choice would be 5NT (pick a slam) just in case 6D is somehow the magical spot.
5NT should not be pick a slam after major suit agreement and no indication there's another strain in play, imo.

And it doesn't ask for heart control, as 6H does that. that's who I concluded it should be GSF.

Without support doubles it's less clear, I guess — so if I'm not playing them, and with the knowledge that pard wants to "keep it simple", I bid 6S.
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