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Old 10-25-2013, 12:03 PM   #1951
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Here's a Redd wolf game if anyone wants to put in some work. I read through his posts and concluded that his tone is much better in this game. When he's doing work in that game, he's like a second-rate magician who's performing a trick, except the rabbit is stuck in the hat and won't come out. It's not pretty.

The caveat is that it was a mishmash and he was multi-tabling for the early part of the game.
All you have to do is compare this game to that Mash and also compare this game to the SPEED game wehre I was a villager. Which game does this one remind you of?

Even in turbos I never last as a wolf. I get lynched D1 90% of the time.

If you can pretty much clear me, then clear Leafs,

that clears Gambit
You are obv clear

and we have 3 people as possible wolves with 3 lynches left

We are basically a lock to win
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Old 10-25-2013, 12:04 PM   #1952
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ok bros i'm here and well rested

obviously i can't tdome with thingy as planned because well he's dead

and obviously this looks really bad for me since he was coming hard at me yesterday

and obviously it's going to be hard to clear myself here

but it's like... i've never used this read before... twtbaw. it doesn't make sense from my perspective to make this nk. thingy was not clear to the majority of the thread.

i think the wolves found themselves on too many peoples' poe lists and determined they needed my mislynch to win and pulled a hail mary nk

ok catching up
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Old 10-25-2013, 12:06 PM   #1953
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Klairic, could you answer this:

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Hey, Klairic, how come you didn't change your vote here? The following day you couldn't believe that wolves would bus in this situation. You had Thingy as a lock wolf. Why didn't you vote the counterwagon to Thingy's preferred Kokpitch wagon?
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Old 10-25-2013, 12:07 PM   #1954
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The evil team killed another fun loving two headed beast...

Thingyman/Quarrrr was killed by the wolves. He was a regular villager.


It is day!



just woke up and saw this

lol wolves

will be back in an hour ish with my thoughts on this, and my thoughts on xkf yesterday
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Old 10-25-2013, 12:08 PM   #1955
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Do you have Thingy as a villager? If so, why do you want to thunderdome with him? (If not, why are you apologizing to him?)
thingy was in that category of players for me this game who i had as villagers and on the off chance theyw ere wolves i'd be fine losing to them, if that makes sense

i was thinking about this in the shower, thingy and reddboiler/suq are in the same group of people for me whose wolf curves are parabolic. like if we graph wolf % vs. time they both start out at 3/13, then over days 1 and two their curve dips down to pretty low then on day 3 curved back up very slightly. i saw this in both of these players, in particular thingy for trying to push a "slip" to set me up for an eventual mislynch, and in reddboiler/suq for suq's general wolfy tone and progression from voting kruze/leafs for their possible peek to voting gtpitch/kokiri
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Old 10-25-2013, 12:09 PM   #1956
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The night kill looks really bad for Xkf because Thingyman was all over him yesterday.
We should be discussing this more
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Old 10-25-2013, 12:11 PM   #1957
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Odd NKs are a swings-and-roundabouts type of deal. For every level one argument you make, someone can counter that maybe that's what they want you to think.

What looks bad for Xkf is the substance of Thingy's posts pushing him, plus Xkf's reaction to them - he failed to address Thingy's argument, got agitated, and bolted the thread.
i mean i still think his argument is flawed

why i got agitated was that he was barraging me with huge posts that were ignoring or misconstruing what i was saying, troling me unncessarily, and gif dumping while i was trying to keep up by phone
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Old 10-25-2013, 12:11 PM   #1958
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thingy was in that category of players for me this game who i had as villagers and on the off chance theyw ere wolves i'd be fine losing to them, if that makes sense

i was thinking about this in the shower, thingy and reddboiler/suq are in the same group of people for me whose wolf curves are parabolic. like if we graph wolf % vs. time they both start out at 3/13, then over days 1 and two their curve dips down to pretty low then on day 3 curved back up very slightly. i saw this in both of these players, in particular thingy for trying to push a "slip" to set me up for an eventual mislynch, and in reddboiler/suq for suq's general wolfy tone and progression from voting kruze/leafs for their possible peek to voting gtpitch/kokiri

Are you implying that Suq/Me are wolves here?
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Old 10-25-2013, 12:12 PM   #1959
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Are you implying that Suq/Me are wolves here?
i said your wolf probability curve is trending upwards, not you are a 100% wolf
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Old 10-25-2013, 12:14 PM   #1960
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We should be discussing this more
i think someone else said this but this thinking is so level 1 it's not really helpful

like this is the same level of thinking as if when a wolf gets lynched you assume all other wolves are voting elsewhere
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Old 10-25-2013, 12:16 PM   #1961
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i said your wolf probability curve is trending upwards, not you are a 100% wolf
Have you even read the thread? I've literally been in the thread trying to figure the game out the past 2-3 days.

How can I even be part of your most likely wolf suspects right now?
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Old 10-25-2013, 12:18 PM   #1962
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i think someone else said this but this thinking is so level 1 it's not really helpful

like this is the same level of thinking as if when a wolf gets lynched you assume all other wolves are voting elsewhere
Its funny you say that. Give me 5 mins - you might have just slipped up.
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Old 10-25-2013, 12:20 PM   #1963
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Votes from post 659 to post 1254
It is night

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5 gtpitch/kokiri Forsythio/metsandfinsfan (81), HerbieGRD/Thingyman (87), iversonian/DonkDonkDonkDonk (43), ReddBoiler/SuqAta8 (22), tappokone/DWetzel (48)
5 iversonian/DonkDonkDonkDonk bhuber2010/timistere (47), gtpitch/kokiri (31), KruZe/tmleafs1967 (57), LeonardoDicaprio/gambit8888 (99), Xkf (34)
1 HerbieGRD/Thingyman Klairic/notyouravgdrewbie (25)
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i think someone else said this but this thinking is so level 1 it's not really helpful

like this is the same level of thinking as if when a wolf gets lynched you assume all other wolves are voting elsewhere


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Old 10-25-2013, 12:21 PM   #1964
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Bhuber/Timi and Xkf are literally on the same side as both votes to save Kokiri/Pitch
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Old 10-25-2013, 12:24 PM   #1965
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Would anyone be willing to post their motivation for voting bhuber2010/timistere, or gtpitch/kokiri? They're not standing out to me yet, so I'd love a little insight into it.
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Thoughts on DWetzel? Seems like a lot of posts that are feigning content... where the content is there, but just not about helping the village.

Typical low content - simple replies that aren't saying anything (easy to spot)

Complex low content - posts that are saying things about something... possibly slightly related to the game, but not really helping the village. (easy to not notice) examples:










To me this sounds like a lot of saying stuff without really saying stuff. Thoughts? Am I reading too much into this? Is he posting villager stuff that I'm missing?
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What do we need to do clear one moar?
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Good, so unvote me/Herbie, please. And since ivers/Donkx4, as Leo pointed, said that we were a bad wagon as well, they may also unvote.

And since Klairic has now been told that me being overdefensive is a villager trait of mine (sure, I fake it as well too sometimes, but it's at the very most role neutral), I'd appreciate if he unvoted me as well.

And then we can have a proper secondary wagon.
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Nah, my vote stands... you're still my #1 pick.

Why are the rest of you letting someone tell you who to vote for/not vote for?
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You were literally told that your whole case for me is something that I always do as a villager and sometimes as a wolf.

Help me understand, why are you still voting me? If you ignore my overdefensiveness, what is there left - what is that you're voting me for?

You're voting a villager. You need to change your vote. I am very paranoid about some shady mother****ers in this thread right now and I can totally see gtpitch/kokiri suddenly conveniently finding their way into thread, plopping a vote on me/Herbie, and then some dude randomly changing onto us even though that person never really gave any reasoning for suspecting us. I'm telling you, I can sense all this coming.

No shenanigans please.
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I was told? **** you dude.

I'm voting you because you are my #1 pick. No one has stood out as much of you. If you don't like it, piss off.

I don't give a crap if you're voted out as villager... you're not helping anyways.

Yeah, that's a bit emotional
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spend the entire day on the game, more time than I've probably ever spent in a game, because I'm giving ww one last shot

get called out for not helping

I don't even... whatever... Screw this game. Screw ww. I don't know why I keep signing up for games and pour my heart out in them only to get stomped on and disappointed every time.
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You're offended now? Dude, you throw this stuff around at everyone...
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Why kruze, and why is it clear?
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I'm getting super suspicious of people trying to maneuver where the voting goes
i liked these 2 posts above alot actually

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this seems to be pretty clear?

have to go now, kick some ass boober
this is the wolfiest post of the game right here, also the player that found the mets fake wolf peek and introduced it to the thread.

this prettay much makes timmay a wolf for the fact that there was no thoughts about other peeks, just zeroed in on me n kruze for no reason ###notagoodlook

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Ahh... that. Ty

I'll leave Thingy for now then

kruze
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kruze

really hope mets wasnt trolling

cant really afford to mislynch today
this is a suspicious post to me, having a really hard time trying to read suq, he's so wolfy, this post is practically telling me he KNOWS mets was FPS "hope mets wasn't trolling" This hydra head pair has me scratching my head

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Sup bros, in airports/planes all day so activity will be sporadic but can find time to phone post
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Ok, so iversonian/DonkDonkDonkDonk were villagers. The wolves know who the villagers are, and they wouldn't risk a loss in last night's vote unless both wagons were villagers.

Either gtpitch/kokiri is a villager

OR

gtpitch/kokiri is a wolf
AND
2 of these are wolves:
bhuber2010/timistere
KruZe/tmleafs1967 (very likely)
LeonardoDicaprio/gambit8888
Xkf

I think we need to look at gtpitch/kokiri very closely to see if we can narrow this down.
Reading klaric was really uninspiring, i didnt realize he was new or see the post saying it untl this reread.

He is pretty much showing every single telltale sign of a new villager tunneling the **** out of people. thingy/me n kruze.

I actually think he is a villager (yeah, I know) I'll keep reading and try to help u guys put this together
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Old 10-25-2013, 12:24 PM   #1966
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There's an argument that the NK looks somewhat bad for Kruze/Leafs. If Leobit are peeked villagers in the wolves' eyes, they should have gotten to work killing seer peeks straight away. Now their next two kills are set in stone, pretty much, in the instance that Kruze/Leafs are lynched and flip villager. There's no room to maneuver.
agree - if leobit is the peek then nking tappowetz -> leobit resolves kruze/leafs in 2 days, while nking thingy -> tappowetz -> leobit resolves it in 3 days which gives a wolf team of kruzeleafs/xx a better shot of picking up an additional mislynch and possibly winning first

obv this is not lock wolf status for them and i can't help but feel like it's sorta tinfoily, but i guess everything is going to be tinfoily given the thingy nk
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Old 10-25-2013, 12:25 PM   #1967
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just woke up and saw this

lol wolves

will be back in an hour ish with my thoughts on this, and my thoughts on xkf yesterday
suq, this is SOOOOOO god damn wolfy, I really have no idea what to do with you right now.
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Old 10-25-2013, 12:27 PM   #1968
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Mets
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What do we need to do clear one moar?
FOR REFERENCE ALSO
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Old 10-25-2013, 12:27 PM   #1969
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Have you even read the thread? I've literally been in the thread trying to figure the game out the past 2-3 days.

How can I even be part of your most likely wolf suspects right now?
i think your tone has been solid/in line with your villager game

it's your partner who is trending both of you upwards

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Its funny you say that. Give me 5 mins - you might have just slipped up.
christ another person who moronically thinks i "slipped"

i mean i'm aware of my voting history this game and there's a reason for it
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stupid caps lock
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Old 10-25-2013, 12:28 PM   #1971
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i think your tone has been solid/in line with your villager game

it's your partner who is trending both of you upwards



christ another person who moronically thinks i "slipped"

i mean i'm aware of my voting history this game and there's a reason for it
r u smoking crack or just not reading the thread?? redd is carrying the team if he is in fact a villager, suq makes me want to lynch that head right off.
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Old 10-25-2013, 12:29 PM   #1972
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that is exactly what i am saying
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Old 10-25-2013, 12:30 PM   #1973
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oh wait trending upwards to a wolf read? sorry misread that.

should prob just say downward for ease of clarity.

heh
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Old 10-25-2013, 12:30 PM   #1974
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meant trending up as in their wolf % curve is trending up, oops might have been a slight abuse of notation
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Old 10-25-2013, 12:31 PM   #1975
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that is exactly what i am saying
erroyone seems to have a head i want to cut off and a head i want to kiss.

strange game is strange, wish u had a partner.

I bagged you last night in a turbo, and your body language has been fairly close to last night's game on my reread today.
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