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Old 10-24-2013, 06:17 PM   #1676
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Re: Battle of Hydras Werewolf Game

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There's a bunch of excitement coming from bhuber/Thingy of "we have this game locked up!"... and it seems to be far too soon for that
Did I ever say I had this game locked up?

Where did I exude excitement that it was locked up?

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I do think there are only a number of viable wolf teams left in the game.

I think its clear that the n1 peek MUST have been either kruze w or leo/gambit v.

IF leo/gambit are villa (more likely scenario):

I think the wolves are,

1) gpitch/kokiri
2) xkf
3) klairic/notyouravg OR kruze/leafs

IF kruze/leafs are wolf (less likely scenario):

I think the other 2 wolf teams are,

1) gpitch/kokiri
2) one of xkf/leo,gambit/klairic,notyour

Neither of these scenarios involved Redd OR Thingy teams being wolves but I dont think either of them getting killed today regardless.
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Old 10-24-2013, 06:18 PM   #1677
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2 strong + 1 each from me and drew. That's everybody??
What? You have a wolf lean on every non-peeked player in the game (other than xkf who you didnt mention?).

Leo is the only villager you have (other than tappo who was peeked v).

Thats like all wolf leans...
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Old 10-24-2013, 06:21 PM   #1678
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Re: Battle of Hydras Werewolf Game

let's put it this way guys

I don't especially care whether we lynch pitch/kokiri or leafs/kruze today as long as they're both lynched by tomorrow night, but I swear to god if that does not happen (and I don't even care if somehow the first one flips villager, I don't even want to hear it) I'm going to get awfully metsy in the postgame

and tbh I'm going to get metsy on mets if leafs/kruze don't flip wolf, and nothing's going to convince me otherwise

and when leo/gambit die tonight don't you for one goddamn minute listen to the "see guys, they were villagers, so that had to be the peek" line that some idiot or wolf is going to throw out there

As far as I'm concerned this right now should be an effective f5 with me/tappo and leo/gambit dead and those two other pairs lynched, and that should be most of the focus

if one of them is a villager, sorry I guess, take it up with me postgame, but I'm not listening right now for one second


And lol at you leafs, this has nothing to do with last game and everything to do with "I peeked you wolf".
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Old 10-24-2013, 06:22 PM   #1679
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okay, wait, uhm

wait

the more important thing.... LOLOLOLOL

HOW DO I NOT SEE THIS

He says that he's never fake peeked a fellow wolf as villa

... There are no dead wolves in this game.

kokiri/gtpitch are not outted wolves

slip upppppppppppppppp
DWetzel

Please take a stance on this.

Also @ avergadnewbiw

How much ww have you played?
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Old 10-24-2013, 06:24 PM   #1680
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Re: Battle of Hydras Werewolf Game

It seems like the entire case against kokiri/gtpitch came from Thingy, and is based on comparing how he's playing this game to previous games. The read seems to be a stretch.
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Old 10-24-2013, 06:26 PM   #1681
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5 gtpitch/kokiri bhuber2010/timistere (59), KruZe/tmleafs1967 (68), ReddBoiler/SuqAta8 (58), tappokone/DWetzel (30), Thingyman/Quarrrr (86)
2 KruZe/tmleafs1967 gtpitch/kokiri (12), Klairic/notyouravgdrewbie (45)
1 Klairic/notyouravgdrewbie LeonardoDicaprio/gambit8888 (32)
1 Xkf Xkf (24)
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Old 10-24-2013, 06:26 PM   #1682
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Re: Battle of Hydras Werewolf Game

we are lynching kokiri and pitch today

they have effectively given up
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Old 10-24-2013, 06:27 PM   #1683
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Re: Battle of Hydras Werewolf Game

Thingy,

I see what you are thinking and I think it's very very super duper mega villagery of you to a) think that way, and b) to push it as hard as you are on a day when it can't even matter.

That said, frankly I think you're pretty much wrong on the point. As far as I'm concerned pitch/kokiri ARE outed wolves at this point (I concede they're technically not but they may as well be), and I think that the fact that you specifically asked for stuff that might be out of his wolf range pretty much mitigates any potential you could have gotten out of it. Like, I'd find it about 5 times wolfier if he just brought that up on his own.

Which is not to say that he MIGHT not be a wolf, and you may be right after, all, but I kinda feel meh about the actual argument itself.
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Old 10-24-2013, 06:28 PM   #1684
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Did I ever say I had this game locked up?

Where did I exude excitement that it was locked up?

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I do think there are only a number of viable wolf teams left in the game.

I think its clear that the n1 peek MUST have been either kruze w or leo/gambit v.

IF leo/gambit are villa (more likely scenario):

I think the wolves are,

1) gpitch/kokiri
2) xkf
3) klairic/notyouravg OR kruze/leafs

IF kruze/leafs are wolf (less likely scenario):

I think the other 2 wolf teams are,

1) gpitch/kokiri
2) one of xkf/leo,gambit/klairic,notyour

Neither of these scenarios involved Redd OR Thingy teams being wolves but I dont think either of them getting killed today regardless.
I really don't get how your read on us is wolf. Would love to hear it. Including us instead of Kruze/Leafs seems to be ridiculous at this point. I think you'd have a much easier time selling me with Kruze/Leafs + gpitch/Kokiri.

How do you consider kruze/leafs the less likely scenario.

Interesting that some of you are pointing fingers this way without giving any reasons whatsoever. Which IMO makes you look wolfy.
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Old 10-24-2013, 06:29 PM   #1685
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we are lynching kokiri and pitch today

they have effectively given up
I think this is a good argument, ty.
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Old 10-24-2013, 06:31 PM   #1686
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I think this is a good argument, ty.
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Old 10-24-2013, 06:31 PM   #1687
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Re: Battle of Hydras Werewolf Game

sigh, I give up, whatever

DWetzel

Will you at the very least then state very clearly to Klairic (or anyone else who may vote me in the future - it seems Boiler/Suq are keeping this option open as well) that me/Quarrrr are "cleared" villagers and off limits.

I'm still very worried that he's gonna cost us this game if he's a villager.

If he's gonna do that, I want to at least have every single dead villager to have clearly called me a strong village lean.

If you can convince him (and everyone else) that me and Quarrr are clear, our EV in this game goes up a lot. Tell him to leave us alone.
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Old 10-24-2013, 06:31 PM   #1688
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I really don't get how your read on us is wolf. Would love to hear it. Including us instead of Kruze/Leafs seems to be ridiculous at this point. I think you'd have a much easier time selling me with Kruze/Leafs + gpitch/Kokiri.

How do you consider kruze/leafs the less likely scenario.

Interesting that some of you are pointing fingers this way without giving any reasons whatsoever. Which IMO makes you look wolfy.
Lol, you clearly havent read **** all day even if you are a villager.

I clearly talked through this all day.

Could care less if you think it "makes me" look wolfy.

I am not saying kruze/leafs aren't wolves.

I still think leafs entry yesterday was kind of sketch + his quasi-meltdown this morning was kind of wolfy.

His posting DID get better as he "calmed" down + I dont think he is going to be the lynch today anyways (I think kokiri/gpitch is pretty set in stone barring coming them coming in and actually trying even a little bit).

If they flip wolf tonight I think I am pretty well spewed clear so there is that too.
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Old 10-24-2013, 06:32 PM   #1689
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I'm just finding it difficult to believe that Klairic would be so suspicious - you do know that gtpitch/kokiri aren't really defending themselves much?
WHY WASN'T IT A GOOD ARGUMENT WHEN I SAID IT?


sighhhh, we have like 10 posts left or so, gonna leave those to Quarrrr, he says he wanna look at EOD votes or something
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Old 10-24-2013, 06:33 PM   #1690
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Re: Battle of Hydras Werewolf Game

Thingy,

Of the people that are likely to be around in a f3 scenario, I would prefer at this time for your team and secondarily Redd's team not to be voted. That is subject to review based on how the succeeding days go. That's about as far as I'm prepared to go right now. I think you should be in no danger before then.
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Old 10-24-2013, 06:33 PM   #1691
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and if you do a sufficiently good job of finding the wolves, you won't have to worry about that

consider it incentive
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Old 10-24-2013, 06:34 PM   #1692
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I think this is a good argument, ty.
Haha, I just wanted to quote this post for straight up LOLs.

This has nothing to do with ww, but this is my one trolling moment for the day.

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Leo's 4 word case ("they have given up") gets Klairic's head nod to go back to a pitch/kokiri lynch.

Okay, that was funny.

Back to ww.
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Old 10-24-2013, 06:36 PM   #1693
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@ notyouravgdnewbeieieie

How much ww have you played?
I've been playing werewolf type games for many years now, this is my first on 2+2. Why do you ask? Does my experience affect your read on me?
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Old 10-24-2013, 06:37 PM   #1694
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WHY WASN'T IT A GOOD ARGUMENT WHEN I SAID IT?


sighhhh, we have like 10 posts left or so, gonna leave those to Quarrrr, he says he wanna look at EOD votes or something
It is, it just carries more weight from someone else
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Old 10-24-2013, 06:38 PM   #1695
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I made it back before EOD. Looks like we are still lynching Kokiri/Pitch
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Old 10-24-2013, 06:40 PM   #1696
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Lol, you clearly havent read **** all day even if you are a villager.

I clearly talked through this all day.

Could care less if you think it "makes me" look wolfy.

I am not saying kruze/leafs aren't wolves.

I still think leafs entry yesterday was kind of sketch + his quasi-meltdown this morning was kind of wolfy.

His posting DID get better as he "calmed" down + I dont think he is going to be the lynch today anyways (I think kokiri/gpitch is pretty set in stone barring coming them coming in and actually trying even a little bit).

If they flip wolf tonight I think I am pretty well spewed clear so there is that too.
Of course I've been reading

I'm not picking up on many of the things that are obvious to you and many of the other experienced players. And that's ok. I'm doing the best I can with limited knowledge of the game. If that upsets you, can I ask why?
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Old 10-24-2013, 06:41 PM   #1697
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kokpitch

talk amongst yourselves, multitabling atm

i assume i'll be alive tomorrow for further debateaments
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Old 10-24-2013, 06:42 PM   #1698
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I've been playing werewolf type games for many years now, this is my first on 2+2. Why do you ask? Does my experience affect your read on me?
Yes. Now I'm paranoid that you've been helping Klairic make his posts. I would've really preferred for both of you to be relatively inexperienced.

Sigh.

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What's your lynch order? 4 names in order.
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Old 10-24-2013, 06:43 PM   #1699
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let's put it this way guys

I don't especially care whether we lynch pitch/kokiri or leafs/kruze today as long as they're both lynched by tomorrow night, but I swear to god if that does not happen (and I don't even care if somehow the first one flips villager, I don't even want to hear it) I'm going to get awfully metsy in the postgame

and tbh I'm going to get metsy on mets if leafs/kruze don't flip wolf, and nothing's going to convince me otherwise

and when leo/gambit die tonight don't you for one goddamn minute listen to the "see guys, they were villagers, so that had to be the peek" line that some idiot or wolf is going to throw out there

As far as I'm concerned this right now should be an effective f5 with me/tappo and leo/gambit dead and those two other pairs lynched, and that should be most of the focus

if one of them is a villager, sorry I guess, take it up with me postgame, but I'm not listening right now for one second


And lol at you leafs, this has nothing to do with last game and everything to do with "I peeked you wolf".
Thinking about this.. if we are lynching both of these pairs no matter what it might make more sense to lynch Kruze/Leafs tonight.

If we lynch Kruze/TMLeafs tonight
and they flip villager
- Leo/Gambit openly clear tomorrow
- we proceed to lynch Kokiri/GTPitch

and they flip wolf
- Leo/Gambit is not clear
- we proceed to lynch Kokiri/GTPitch


If we lynch Kokiri/Pitch tonight and they flip wolf
- we still have to consider Gambit/Leo tomorrow even though I'm 90% sure they were the peek
- we are lynching Leafs/Kruze anyways

I'm starting to come around on TMLeafs/Kruze but the lynch is inevitable. I agree that we pretty much have to lynch them at some point. I actually prefer we lynch them tonight rather than tomorrow so that if they flip villager we know Leo/Gambit's role and can utilize the peek before they get night killed. If TMleafs/Kruze flips wolf then we got our first wolf anyways.
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Old 10-24-2013, 06:49 PM   #1700
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Thinking about this.. if we are lynching both of these pairs no matter what it might make more sense to lynch Kruze/Leafs tonight.

If we lynch Kruze/TMLeafs tonight
and they flip villager
- Leo/Gambit openly clear tomorrow
- we proceed to lynch Kokiri/GTPitch

and they flip wolf
- Leo/Gambit is not clear
- we proceed to lynch Kokiri/GTPitch


If we lynch Kokiri/Pitch tonight and they flip wolf
- we still have to consider Gambit/Leo tomorrow even though I'm 90% sure they were the peek
- we are lynching Leafs/Kruze anyways

I'm starting to come around on TMLeafs/Kruze but the lynch is inevitable. I agree that we pretty much have to lynch them at some point. I actually prefer we lynch them tonight rather than tomorrow so that if they flip villager we know Leo/Gambit's role and can utilize the peek before they get night killed. If TMleafs/Kruze flips wolf then we got our first wolf anyways.
it really doesn't matter

they're going to have to kill leo/gambit at some point anyway, unless somehow they're w/w with leafs/kruze

so basically we know leo/gambit's role regardless
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