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Old 10-24-2013, 02:26 PM   #1526
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Re: Battle of Hydras Werewolf Game

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I'm waiting for someone to come up with one of you guys not being cleared, we can pretty much just jump on them for it.

Also I was a villager to pretty much the whole thread yesterday so looking into the people trying to push the peek early are almost always wolves right?
i mean

it's pretty understandable to assume that post is a peek
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Old 10-24-2013, 02:27 PM   #1527
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What are you doing atm?

There are two important things that I need you to reassess:

1) Your Xkf villa read. I really think that he's a wolf. Also consider that he fits into all team combinations, if that's something that's important to you.

2) Your bhuber wolf read. I really think that he's a villager. I just read his 2 most recent wolf games and it's just wildly different imo. You really, really think he's a wolf?
1.) I've been rereading him on and off. I don't see anything damning in his posting. Nothing clearing, either.

A mechanical point, if I may: FPS'ing the n1 kill mostly makes sense if the rest of the team is hopeless. Your suggested team fits. However, if the wolf team's mindset is that Xkf needs to be the end game wolf and they're willing to use a NK to clear him, Xkf is probably not going to go to bat for Kokpitch like he did. He peeked them villager and defended them at EoDs based on the peek.

2.) I don't "really, really" think he's a wolf. His posting today has been aight, for example. But someone needs to be a wolf.
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Old 10-24-2013, 02:28 PM   #1528
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Re: Battle of Hydras Werewolf Game

The strange thing about you thingy.....

You claimed to have read some of my games earlier in the thread, I wear my heart on my sleeve a lot of the time, it's hard to replicate as a wolf.

I couldn't see you reading a cpl of my games and not being @ this conclusion already about me just based on today alone.

Your really hanging onto the me/kruze wolf thing for some reason, i think I have been in most of your posts today and a lot from yesterday too.

did u check db and see i was a very viable lynch? and then pretend you read my games.

Because that would be a pretty critical mistake considering my playing style.

Just Sayin


@Kruze, cmon man, i gotta get off to work now, I need you in here helpin out today.
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Old 10-24-2013, 02:29 PM   #1529
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Re: Battle of Hydras Werewolf Game

Tappo,

We suck at reading each other.

We need to get better at it

(fortunately for me, I can cheat cause mets told me your role).

Hooray.
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Old 10-24-2013, 02:30 PM   #1530
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i think that wolf peek post seems like a joke, but i'm not sure. he says later in the day that kruze posting was villagery.

also i think leafs has been villagery today
man, Leo, I'm afraid they might be villagers too

so

If that is true, then these are villagers:
tappokone/DWetzel
Leo/gambit
Thingyman/Quarrr
tmleafs/KruZe

And I really think bhuber has to be villa.

So that means that the remaining 3 wolves are in:
gtpitch/kokiri < I'm sold on this
Xkf < has to be wolf
Klairic < gawd, he's an elite noob wolf then
Redd/Suq < jesus, putting in a good wolf performance?

But we don't actually need to figure out the third wolf if we feel really strongly about clearing those 5 people.

Leo, I'm gonna re-read you, but my confirmation bias is already saying that I need/want to trust you - so let's figure this out
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Old 10-24-2013, 02:33 PM   #1531
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Yes, I was just confirming what is obvious (at least wrt to the tappo/wetzel peek).

Still trying to figure how much weight to give either of the n1 peeks.

I think I am leaning towards Leo/gambit v at the moment.

Which would also be hilarious because if he didnt actually peek you guys w, then you probably freaked out for no reason earlier today and he MAY have caught you for the wrong reasons (or you may be v and he didnt actually catch you at all).

If you/kruze + leo/gambit are villagers, I think that pretty much leaves:

pitch/kokiri
xkf
klairic

As the only wolf team combo I could see (which is pretty nuts because so many people have klairic as a villager at the moment (I would be assuming both Thingy and Redd teams are both clear with this because thats where I am at AORN).
Actually, I never thought anything about it, in mashes I do it all the time when someone one comes in and says am I alive (no your dead stop posting) or (your peeked wolf ur dead in ita's) so for me on the reread last night I barely noticed it because it's common place in big games and especially from mets.

anyways, pitch and kokiri 100% HAVE to be the lynch today, he just came in and sideswiped me and took off with a lame excuse, that and eod snipe vote and they aren't being villagers AT ALL.

I am asking for this lynch, I never should have moved off them yesterday, my first guy feeling was right, my second was wrong.

I have to leave for work now, I'll be around here n there, I won't miss eod today because well, yesterday was unavoidable, I got called off break @ 7:30ish for problems on the floor, I don't anticipate those "same" problems today.
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Old 10-24-2013, 02:33 PM   #1532
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Re: Battle of Hydras Werewolf Game

thingy why are you refusing to even consider that bhuber is a wolf

he is a pretty decent poster as a wolf, and timi is just avoiding the thread like the plague

i refuse to believe that any of those teams besides kokiri and pitch that you listed have less villagery points in their favor than bhuber

his only favorable bullet point is tone
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Old 10-24-2013, 02:34 PM   #1533
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1.) I've been rereading him on and off. I don't see anything damning in his posting. Nothing clearing, either.

A mechanical point, if I may: FPS'ing the n1 kill mostly makes sense if the rest of the team is hopeless. Your suggested team fits. However, if the wolf team's mindset is that Xkf needs to be the end game wolf and they're willing to use a NK to clear him, Xkf is probably not going to go to bat for Kokpitch like he did. He peeked them villager and defended them at EoDs based on the peek.

2.) I don't "really, really" think he's a wolf. His posting today has been aight, for example. But someone needs to be a wolf.
To 1):

I don't think it was even necessarily an FPS'ed night kill. If Xkf is wolf, they thought that well named was the peek. Xkf said himself that he didn't think he was the peek, but that well named was. If he's a wolf, I think this is true.

But I'm comforted that even if it was an intended FPS night kill that it still fits.

And that you think that Xkf wouldn't go to bat for gtpitch/kokiri I really disagree with < that's the luxury of being clear'ish, that's exactly what a clear'ish wolf should do, that is how I have always played and told my fellow wolves to play, take advantage of your status when you won't get heat for defending your co-wolves

Also, tappo, I really need you to place me in the top 5 villas.

Forsy and Felix had me as a strong villa lean - they've played tons of games with me. If that means anything.
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Old 10-24-2013, 02:35 PM   #1534
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Re: Battle of Hydras Werewolf Game

the new guy seems like he is probably fairly intelligent

i wouldn't be too surprised if he was a wolf
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Old 10-24-2013, 02:36 PM   #1535
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Here is the confusing part - even if Leafs/Kruze flip wolf, Leo/Gambit V could still be the peek. I tihnk we should just assume Leo/Gambit V is the peek. If they are still left at f3 after Leafs/Kruze flips wolf, then you can consider them. Obv if Leafs/Kruze flip V they are lock clear anyways.

So
Suq/Redd(GOAT)
Tappo/Dwetz V
Leo/Gambit V

Klaivic
XKf
Thingyman
Likely to be wolf if TMLeafs flips villager and Bhuber and Kokiri both flip wolf.
TmLeafs
Likely to be wolf
Bhuber
Likely to be wolf
Kokiri
Most likely wolf
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Old 10-24-2013, 02:36 PM   #1536
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Re: Battle of Hydras Werewolf Game

Okay, I am doing it.

I am hitting a home run.

__________

gpitch / kokiri
xkf
klairic

Wolf team.

Will claim GOAT status in post-game.
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Old 10-24-2013, 02:37 PM   #1537
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Re: Battle of Hydras Werewolf Game

I even dropped leafs/kruze for now

(might be my Achilles heal for GOAT status, ugh).
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Old 10-24-2013, 02:37 PM   #1538
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thingy why are you refusing to even consider that bhuber is a wolf

he is a pretty decent poster as a wolf, and timi is just avoiding the thread like the plague

i refuse to believe that any of those teams besides kokiri and pitch that you listed have less villagery points in their favor than bhuber

his only favorable bullet point is tone
I'm not refusing to consider this. Or well, right now I sort of am. But I have spent time re-reading his posts in this game and looking at his past wolf games - and he's being much different in this game imo than in his wolf games.

I agree that tone is his favorable bullet point - and that's pretty much the only thing that I read people on.

What villagery points does Xkf have in his favor? Ignore the SHC thing.
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Old 10-24-2013, 02:38 PM   #1539
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I am kind of glad people still think I could be a wolf.

This bodes well for my wolf game in non-turbos.

Rawr.
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Old 10-24-2013, 02:39 PM   #1540
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I'm not refusing to consider this. Or well, right now I sort of am. But I have spent time re-reading his posts in this game and looking at his past wolf games - and he's being much different in this game imo than in his wolf games.

I agree that tone is his favorable bullet point - and that's pretty much the only thing that I read people on.

What villagery points does Xkf have in his favor? Ignore the SHC thing.
ignoring the shc would be ignoring a thing in his favor :/

but you also have to take into consideration the negative that bhuber gets by timi being so wolfy
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Old 10-24-2013, 02:39 PM   #1541
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LoL at people thinking Xkf is even remotely SHC from the Felix kill.

Y'all are all suckers.

He was killed for hard defending well named on EoD 1.

I am not even a wolf but I can tell you with near certainty thats exactly why he was killed.

You silly goons.
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Old 10-24-2013, 02:40 PM   #1542
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Okay, I am doing it.

I am hitting a home run.

__________

gpitch / kokiri
xkf
klairic

Wolf team.

Will claim GOAT status in post-game.
If you want GOAT, you gotta put me and Thingy as wolves together.
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Old 10-24-2013, 02:41 PM   #1543
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ignoring the shc would be ignoring a thing in his favor :/

but you also have to take into consideration the negative that bhuber gets by timi being so wolfy
Dat timi guy is wolfy as a mother ****er (like I cringe when I read his posts because they actually come off as a wolfy (and I am reading them from a villager perspective, LOL).

He's lucky to have me as his partner else we would have been lynched umpteen days ago.

I still him though.
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Old 10-24-2013, 02:41 PM   #1544
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afk for some time, playing a turbo on my Danish site
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Old 10-24-2013, 02:41 PM   #1545
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If you want GOAT, you gotta put me and Thingy as wolves together.
Wait what?

What are you talking about here?
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Old 10-24-2013, 02:41 PM   #1546
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Here is the confusing part - even if Leafs/Kruze flip wolf, Leo/Gambit V could still be the peek. I tihnk we should just assume Leo/Gambit V is the peek. If they are still left at f3 after Leafs/Kruze flips wolf, then you can consider them. Obv if Leafs/Kruze flip V they are lock clear anyways.

So
Suq/Redd(GOAT)
Tappo/Dwetz V
Leo/Gambit V

Klaivic
XKf
Thingyman
Likely to be wolf if TMLeafs flips villager and Bhuber and Kokiri both flip wolf.
TmLeafs
Likely to be wolf
Bhuber
Likely to be wolf
Kokiri
Most likely wolf
last post for a bit.

Listen, you had me as a hardcore villa yesterday, you said it a few times.

The only way U can flip the read that bad is 2 reasons.

1-YOUR A WOLF......trying to push me thru because the seer made a prettay big mistake.

2- Your a villa, but your not working thru the problem correctly, you have to believe that one of the lock clear players aren't clear because that's the ONLY way you can have a wolf lean on me/kruze right now because you had me as a hard villa yesterday, so nothing should change if you have no problem with the peeks, so your being paranoid about me for nothing.
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Old 10-24-2013, 02:43 PM   #1547
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There is probably going to be a point in this game I actually have to reconsider both Redd/Thingy and its going to make me really sad because its going to mean my t0anometer was super off.

You're both villagers right?
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Old 10-24-2013, 02:44 PM   #1548
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afk for some time, playing a turbo on my Danish site
Yeah, I am losing way too much sleep over this game.

Eff you all.

Back to napping, bbl before work.
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Old 10-24-2013, 02:44 PM   #1549
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I don't think it was even necessarily an FPS'ed night kill. If Xkf is wolf, they thought that well named was the peek. Xkf said himself that he didn't think he was the peek, but that well named was. If he's a wolf, I think this is true.

But I'm comforted that even if it was an intended FPS night kill that it still fits.
Thinking WN is the peek is horrible seer hunting, though. That's really pushing the bad wolf team angle.

Re wolves telling the truth about peeks, I think that holds true mostly when the wolf is the first to do the work. If villagers have already agreed on a pro-wolf interpretation and there's no controversy, it's pointless and bad to start to argue with them - especially if your interpretation is objectively worse than the prevailing narrative.

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Also, tappo, I really need you to place me in the top 5 villas.

Forsy and Felix had me as a strong villa lean - they've played tons of games with me. If that means anything.
If you already have Forsy and Felix leaning villager on you, I don't know what you need me for. Once I'm dead, my opinion won't have any more weight than theirs.
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Old 10-24-2013, 02:46 PM   #1550
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One last note,

I have more posts than 4 living players combined:

suq
kruze
gambit
gpitch

COMBINED.

People STILL think I am wolfing.

Jeebus.

Y'all stink.

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