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Old 10-23-2013, 07:58 AM   #701
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Re: Battle of Hyrdas Werewolf Game

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That's a bad post.

Felix didn't leave three peeks. If the peek is a villager, it's always Xkf and never, ever Herbie/you. This should be blatantly obvious. If there's a wolf peek, it's Ivers/Donk, but the language is not as strong or peek-like as with Xkf. Saying someone is howling means that the person is wolfy, not that he's a lock wolf.

Xkf is SHC, as far as I'm concerned. I might be persuaded to reconsider if Ivers/Donk flip wolf, but not before.
You will notice that I said "This would make it unlikely to the wolves probably that he peeked me/Herbie villager and his posts on ivers/Donkx4 in general would probably make it unlikely that he peeked them wolves."

I still think it's a horrible NK. He does in fact state unequivocally that I/Herbie are villagers. That's just horrible for a seer to say if he peeked someone else villager.

In reality I don't think Felix intended to leave anything - he just stated his reads. But whatever... It doesn't change much for me. I have ivers/donk as possible wolves regardless and Xkf isn't someone that I wanna lynch today or tomorrow even. I found Xkf's #277 villagery where he asks us to go through his read on ReddBoiler with him. It's not much though, so I wanna see more villagery things from him.
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Old 10-23-2013, 08:01 AM   #702
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Xkf was pretty villagery regardless

What people all failing to realize is that when Felix gets killed there its likely because both Ivers isa Wolf AND x K f is a villa i i

He was not the seer , SO discern Ing which peek is real is secondary . Just assume he was killed for both until proven otherwise
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Old 10-23-2013, 08:04 AM   #703
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How is it a horrible kill

Wolves basically had to kill an ivers voter

The rest could Theoretically have wrong peeks or something

Lolling the nk is generally not villagery
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Old 10-23-2013, 08:05 AM   #704
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Tappo

Bhuber is a good third choice

Talk to me about kokiribitch and iverdonk
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Old 10-23-2013, 08:09 AM   #705
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Re: Battle of Hyrdas Werewolf Game

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i don't think it's a very valid read to make considering he was explaining a vote he made before tappo had explained why he thought what timi said was wolfy(and timi in turn said he understood how it looked)

i guess it is sort of concerning that he didn't re-evaluate and change his vote or whatever later on but i don't think what tappo pointed out is that wolfy.

all that being said, timi doesn't strike me as very villagery overall either ;p
Let's look at the entire exchange in chronological order:

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god it's been a long time since i've played ww

leo
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timistere

Lets us know he's excited to play, but says the bare minimum.
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interesting early find, worth watching the pair later on in the day.
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i don't see where i say that i'm exited to play

also work
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That's what "villager" in lime in spoilers and "god it's been a long time since i've played ww" imply to me. Am I wrong?
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yeah you were wrong

but i can see how you came to that conclusion

the "it's been a long time" was more along the lines like what am i supposed to do here
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That's fine. One thing you could do is to explain your votes.
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there is absolutely no "interesting early find", like i just explained

second part of that sentence struck me as wolfy too

easypeasy vote
Timi shouldn't be happy with his vote unless he continues to be happy with the reasons behind it. He seemed perfectly happy with the vote, so his rationale for it should be valid, as far as he's concerned. It doesn't make any sense to make that last post if you've decided that there's nothing wrong with Fank liking my post.
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Old 10-23-2013, 08:11 AM   #706
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Fank was villagery

Work ****ed me I would've saved them
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Old 10-23-2013, 08:15 AM   #707
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Bhuber is a good third choice

Talk to me about kokiribitch and iverdonk
Kokpitch seems like a good wagon mostly based on Pitch posting like he's a wolf and WN finding Kokiri wolfy. I'm a bit sad that we didn't vote for them yesterday. I'll look at Kokiri's old games at some point and see if I can come up with something useful.

I'm not that enamored with Donk/Ivers. I didn't have them as wolfy yesterday. Felix getting got lowered my estimate, but I still don't see them as a top of the line lynch.
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Old 10-23-2013, 08:25 AM   #708
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You will notice that I said "This would make it unlikely to the wolves probably that he peeked me/Herbie villager and his posts on ivers/Donkx4 in general would probably make it unlikely that he peeked them wolves."
And after having said that, you fail to reach the conclusion that Xkf must be the peek.

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I still think it's a horrible NK. He does in fact state unequivocally that I/Herbie are villagers. That's just horrible for a seer to say if he peeked someone else villager.
Nah, he says he's "very convinced [you're] a villager and we should not lynch [you] any time soon". People are convinced about things that turn out to be wrong all the time. It doesn't indicate that he knows you to be a villager. In fact, if he knew it, the "any time soon" qualifier wouldn't be there. When you combine that with his other posts on the topic of you/Herbie, where he expressed doubt in his initial read, it's just never a peek.
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Old 10-23-2013, 08:29 AM   #709
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Iversdonkian confirmed frozen
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Old 10-23-2013, 08:32 AM   #710
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Re: Battle of Hyrdas Werewolf Game

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Wellnamed voters haven't earned the right to ask me to clarify **** unfortunately

Reapply when you make a vote at eod that isn't antivillage
This is a god awful post imo

It reads to me like Mets does not have an answer to Thingys question so he just uses deflection.

I am not a fan of Thingys posting thus far in the game, so dont get me wrong, but I do believe that he is entitled to ask questions just like anyone else.

Furthermore, unless I missed something, Mets is not so clear that he should feel like he is above explaining himself and answering questions about his posts.
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Old 10-23-2013, 08:37 AM   #711
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Re: Battle of Hyrdas Werewolf Game

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bhuber2010

Just for the record: Boober posting stuff that makes you scratch your chin and ask yourself, "Would he really post that as a wolf?" isn't villagery for him. Boober coming in and villaging it up like a villagery villager is villagery for him. Which he didn't do.
I agree Boober looks terrible from his posting yesterday.

FYI tho, I use to think he was super villagery when he was a villager but not lately.

I dont think he posts as well as he use to as a villager

my two cents
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Old 10-23-2013, 08:39 AM   #712
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Re: Battle of Hyrdas Werewolf Game

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You should feel kind of stoopid

I don't want to fight with you today so don't try and be a hero

In fact maybe let gambit do most of the posting for you
Lol at "dont try to be a hero"

Also the "let gambit do most of the posting" prob wont happen and if it (for some miracle) does happen it wont be because you told us to.
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Old 10-23-2013, 08:40 AM   #713
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Re: Battle of Hyrdas Werewolf Game

Boober
Pitch
Thingy

These three stand out to me from their posting yesterday. I think they are all wolfy.

Boober
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Old 10-23-2013, 08:44 AM   #714
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This is a god awful post imo

It reads to me like Mets does not have an answer to Thingys question so he just uses deflection.

I am not a fan of Thingys posting thus far in the game, so dont get me wrong, but I do believe that he is entitled to ask questions just like anyone else.

Furthermore, unless I missed something, Mets is not so clear that he should feel like he is above explaining himself and answering questions about his posts.
Its like you've never played With me before . Sup Gambit howl is it going ? You are arguing that I'm hiding something ) or that I'm in antispew mode against thingy right? Just want to make sure Im peeing my pants only the correct thing . LOL :

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Old 10-23-2013, 08:46 AM   #715
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Boober
Pitch
Thingy

These three stand out to me from their posting yesterday. I think they are all wolfy.

Boober
Talk about ivers
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Old 10-23-2013, 08:51 AM   #716
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Its like you've never played With me before . Sup Gambit howl is it going ? You are arguing that I'm hiding something ) or that I'm in antispew mode against thingy right? Just want to make sure Im peeing my pants only the correct thing . LOL :

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Im not clear c Push me ! d double dog dare you!
Sup mets

You made a read, Thingy asked you to clarify it, and you decided to deflect instead of answer it. How is that a good look? How is that villagery? Why do you think its okay to do that?

double dog dare wat? Seriously?
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Old 10-23-2013, 08:52 AM   #717
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Talk about ivers
Not impressed with him

While skimming the eod last night I found it odd that he was concerned about consolidating wagons yet he voted at the last minute.

He can join Boober, Pitch, and Thingy on my wolfy reads list


What are your thoughts on him?
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Old 10-23-2013, 08:57 AM   #718
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Sup mets

You made a read, Thingy asked you to clarify it, and you decided to deflect instead of answer it. How is that a good look? How is that villagery? Why do you think its okay to do that?

double dog dare wat? Seriously?
It got me nightkilled last game. Well that and I pwned the entire wolf team
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Old 10-23-2013, 08:58 AM   #719
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Not impressed with him

While skimming the eod last night I found it odd that he was concerned about consolidating wagons yet he voted at the last minute.

He can join Boober, Pitch, and Thingy on my wolfy reads list


What are your thoughts on him?
If you add him your list is 100% perfect

100%

So stop arguing with me

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Old 10-23-2013, 08:59 AM   #720
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It got me nightkilled last game. Well that and I pwned the entire wolf team
I dont care about last game, I am asking about this one

Lol at you not being able to clarify what you meant
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Old 10-23-2013, 09:00 AM   #721
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If you add him your list is 100% perfect

100%

So stop arguing with me

Sigh

nevermind
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Old 10-23-2013, 09:01 AM   #722
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I dont care about last game, I am asking about this one

Lol at you not being able to clarify what you meant
I am able to do anything

There are times when it's strategic not too

Everyone says I suck but there is a reason I get night killed almost every village game
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Sigh

nevermind
Okey dokey
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I have to decide if I support boober lynch over pitch or iver

But I do know I won't defend bhuber so it hardly matters
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Old 10-23-2013, 09:05 AM   #725
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Re: Battle of Hyrdas Werewolf Game

If you go back and reread the thread - Felix says something about being suspicious of Well Named voters and says everyone should jump on Kokiri. After saying this Iversonian constantly pressures Felix and tries to discredit him. Iversonian ends up voting Kokiri > Well Named 2 mins til EOD even though he has WN as wolfy all day. The wagon at that point is 6-4 WN > Kokiri. Iversonian's vote makes it 6-5 with a min and a half left EOD. I find this vote wolfy because it looks as if he wants to get credit for being on the opposite wagon of WN when he flips despite pushing WN for a good majority of D1.



Now, if you assume Iversonian is a WW, the Felix NK makes sense. It takes away the biggest supporter of lynching Iversonian. I think the late vote at 7:58 on Kokiri makes it possible for Kokiri to be WW/WW with Iversonian as well. It just doesnt make sense for Ivers to wait until 7:58 to come off Felix and pick a side. Why wait that long to vote Well Named?



Now, couple that with Thingyman coming in today trying to sell off that Felix peeked him villager and having the "peeks" ready to quote. Nobody would even draw that from the posts he quoted.


I'm starting to think a possible WW/WW/WW team is:
Kokiri/Pitch
Ivers/DonkDonk
Thingyman/Herbie

I have a post I want to quote of Felix. Let me find it.
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