bad argument

tbh i'm really only confident in my top and bottom piles

and maybe feeling pretty decent about tappo/dwetz as a wolf

Leo

Do you ever post this as a wolf?

im trying to forget too

i was talkative and engaged and wrong about pretty much everything ;( feeling better here tho since there's only 13

Just to make this very clear in advance, I won't be here for EOD. I have no idea about fank

I'll finish reading the thread for reals before I leave for the day and see if I can squeeze anything out of it. I'm finding it hard to context switch but I think kokiri's response to our cross post does seem wolfy. Too pat. Anyway, I accept that you may lynch me. It's mostly a matter of dumb expectations on your part and inability to multi-task well on mine. I'll do my best to leave you something to remember me by. beyond that though, I'm not going to get much done today, and I don't expect my reads to be great.

I'll be back when I manage to finish reading

i always like to think i'm capable of making any post as a wolf

i think i would have the balls to make that one but i also think it might be unlikely i think it up ;p

it's not just the part about lynching me, this whole post is pretty wolfy

when you finish reading? there are 350 poasts and you have been in the thread for a good portion of the time

Votes from post 1 to post 358
Night in 2:43:55
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Votes	Lynch	Voters
5	well named/fank009	bhuber2010/timistere (27), gtpitch/kokiri (30), HerbieGRD/Thingyman (48), iversonian/DonkDonkDonkDonk (29), LeonardoDicaprio/gambit8888 (40)
3	iversonian/DonkDonkDonkDonk	Felix the Cat (11), Forsythio/metsandfinsfan (26), Xkf (31)
2	gtpitch/kokiri	ReddBoiler/SuqAta8 (32), well named/fank009 (40)
1	bhuber2010/timistere	tappokone/DWetzel (35)
2	not voting	Klairic/notyouravgdrewbie (0), monk2310 (0)

Must say I'm kinda shocked to be down that low Leo, but whatevs -- I agree with the top four of the list (maaaaybe not pitch/kokiri but I'm splitting hairs), I'd put bhuber/timi a good bit lower, probably swap them with Herbie/Thingy, and then once that's done squish your bottom three tiers excluding myselves into one big pile of "not exactly villagery".

Is it bad that I don't really have any even moderately solid wolf reads at this point? Or is that because the wolves basically haven't posted yet? (Or, again, I offer the "no, you just suck at werewolf especially on day 1" option.)

there's skimming and posting and then there's trying to read. They aren't the same thing at all.

self conscious in a wolfy way

I'm having trouble following your argument, but it sounds like you're basically conceding that you can see why someone would believe you are not posting content (you may or may not actually be posting content in your opinion, but apparently it's not important to you to point out any of said content in rebuttal) but challenging the notion that people who are not posting content are good votes?

errm.

wut?

Did you have any thoughts on what I said about your voting earlier - that, though you're talking a lot about wanting wagons (which strikes me as red-herringy btw - nobody has suggested that we shouldn't have wagons), you don't seem too concerned about who the wagons are, just so long as we have them - which also gets a wut?

yeah i could prlly move things around in teh middle quite a bit i suppose

with the you/tappo read i just kinda didn't like the way he was making reads about players, i think that timi thing is a really easy way for a wolf to attack someone. dunno just something seems off. he does seem to be a very technical sort of player though so i could just be misguided.

i say we lynch the poorly undertitled and go from there

also i think there may be some chance this latest 180 by wn might be some sort of spew play ;p

If we're going down this path, let's lynch iversonian/Donk first. Neither of them have been remotely villagery.

At least fank is "new" (to POG at least, player from elsewhere right?), and well named is full of excuses and such. Iversonian and Donk are both just howling.

erm, what?

If he's actually self-conscious, doesn't he say to himself "hey, I'm forcing reads here, let me take some out/save 'em for later" or something like that?

I'm pretty sure that's a remarkably villagery thing to say, actually.

It could be because there are no reads on day 1 (or until you lynch a wolf)

I'm pretty sure it was basically a guy who lives in Finland going after a guy who lives in god knows what hellhole of a country trying to explain each other in their second or third language.

I'm starting to come around on the last point somewhat. I've just seen WN AIDS up a game as a villager though (no offense WN, and not that I was much better) and I kinda still don't want to but he's probably the best of a not great lot though if I had to vote right now.

My urge to start a wagon on our zero posting masons is building rapidly though. Monk I can forgive on account of Tappo decided to peek him, but two non-posting people is kinda rustling my jimmies.

do you actually believe this? This is a stereotypically wolfy thing to say, but I'm surprised to see it from you and I'm not going to burn your house down just yet. But at best you are way wrong. d1 is a great day for reads typically

blue is for good guys

Nah, I used to think that way, and to think that my tone reading completely sucked. I was wrong, or I got better at it, because the day 1 stuff matters.

I've noticed it's a LOT harder for me to formulate reads on day 1 when I am not in the thread all day and I'm just reading words on a screen. When I can't do that (see: every day of this game), I do suck early on*.





*shut up

i'll repost it in postgame, but i will offer to lay you 2-1, for any game that neither of us are in, that a villager is lynched on d1. run it for the next 10 pog games and then settle the wager.

dwetzel: I disagree with you about wolves and self-consciously awkward posting, but it doesn't seem like an interesting argument to have