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Old 10-22-2013, 05:10 PM   #351
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Re: Battle of Hyrdas Werewolf Game

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the implicit assumption is that that is a wolf tell, not posting what you consider real content. if you knew that it was not, would you then change your vote?
bad argument
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Old 10-22-2013, 05:12 PM   #352
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Re: Battle of Hyrdas Werewolf Game

tbh i'm really only confident in my top and bottom piles

and maybe feeling pretty decent about tappo/dwetz as a wolf
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Old 10-22-2013, 05:13 PM   #353
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i would also like to say that i think it's a bit against the spirit of the game to share specific things that you have talked about in mason chat

i know the rule is just that you can't post mason chat in here, but i also think it's something that is difficult to replicate as a wolf if people start spouting off about the theories or whatever stuff their mason said, which is basically why the rule for not posting the chat was made
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Do you ever post this as a wolf?
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Old 10-22-2013, 05:13 PM   #354
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xkf i sorta forgot about the musketeers game(can you blame me? ;p)

you were very talkative and engaged in that game, i was more thinking of the one where you got lynched d1 that we played.

plus no matter what meta you have it's best to just call it a villager if it looks like a villager

so i think you might be a villager
im trying to forget too

i was talkative and engaged and wrong about pretty much everything ;( feeling better here tho since there's only 13
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Old 10-22-2013, 05:14 PM   #355
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Re: Battle of Hyrdas Werewolf Game

Just to make this very clear in advance, I won't be here for EOD. I have no idea about fank

I'll finish reading the thread for reals before I leave for the day and see if I can squeeze anything out of it. I'm finding it hard to context switch but I think kokiri's response to our cross post does seem wolfy. Too pat. Anyway, I accept that you may lynch me. It's mostly a matter of dumb expectations on your part and inability to multi-task well on mine. I'll do my best to leave you something to remember me by. beyond that though, I'm not going to get much done today, and I don't expect my reads to be great.

I'll be back when I manage to finish reading
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Old 10-22-2013, 05:14 PM   #356
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Re: Battle of Hyrdas Werewolf Game

i always like to think i'm capable of making any post as a wolf

i think i would have the balls to make that one but i also think it might be unlikely i think it up ;p
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Old 10-22-2013, 05:15 PM   #357
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One glaring weakness in my WW game: I don't really like going toe to toe, so I tend to back down when directly confronted, or at least rethink/second guess/w-e. Together with the fact that I'm rarely if ever around at EoD, I am used to and prefer to observe the thread from without, rather than being in the middle and work by interaction.

Also, I actually 180 like a pro, that's a strength in my game.

I pretty much stopped reading the whole thingy derail since it was so deraily. I guess I want you to be a wolf, but I'm not sure anymore, and so it's a put it to one side and revisit when less biased sort of scenario.

Let's lynch WN.
it's not just the part about lynching me, this whole post is pretty wolfy
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Old 10-22-2013, 05:15 PM   #358
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when you finish reading? there are 350 poasts and you have been in the thread for a good portion of the time
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Old 10-22-2013, 05:17 PM   #359
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Exclamation Vote Count 1 to 358

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5 well named/fank009 bhuber2010/timistere (27), gtpitch/kokiri (30), HerbieGRD/Thingyman (48), iversonian/DonkDonkDonkDonk (29), LeonardoDicaprio/gambit8888 (40)
3 iversonian/DonkDonkDonkDonk Felix the Cat (11), Forsythio/metsandfinsfan (26), Xkf (31)
2 gtpitch/kokiri ReddBoiler/SuqAta8 (32), well named/fank009 (40)
1 bhuber2010/timistere tappokone/DWetzel (35)
2 not voting Klairic/notyouravgdrewbie (0), monk2310 (0)
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Old 10-22-2013, 05:18 PM   #360
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Re: Battle of Hyrdas Werewolf Game

Must say I'm kinda shocked to be down that low Leo, but whatevs -- I agree with the top four of the list (maaaaybe not pitch/kokiri but I'm splitting hairs), I'd put bhuber/timi a good bit lower, probably swap them with Herbie/Thingy, and then once that's done squish your bottom three tiers excluding myselves into one big pile of "not exactly villagery".

Is it bad that I don't really have any even moderately solid wolf reads at this point? Or is that because the wolves basically haven't posted yet? (Or, again, I offer the "no, you just suck at werewolf especially on day 1" option.)
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Old 10-22-2013, 05:18 PM   #361
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when you finish reading? there are 350 poasts and you have been in the thread for a good portion of the time
there's skimming and posting and then there's trying to read. They aren't the same thing at all.
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Old 10-22-2013, 05:19 PM   #362
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Ok, some early lolreads:

Mets is a villager, Iversonian, too (so stop squabbling Mets/D4), Tappakone too,

Thingy, Leo, Fank009 all seem wolfy

Thingyman/HerbieGRD

That's way more reads than i normally have, wtf
self conscious in a wolfy way
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Old 10-22-2013, 05:21 PM   #363
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the implicit assumption is that that is a wolf tell, not posting what you consider real content. if you knew that it was not, would you then change your vote?
I'm having trouble following your argument, but it sounds like you're basically conceding that you can see why someone would believe you are not posting content (you may or may not actually be posting content in your opinion, but apparently it's not important to you to point out any of said content in rebuttal) but challenging the notion that people who are not posting content are good votes?

errm.

wut?

Did you have any thoughts on what I said about your voting earlier - that, though you're talking a lot about wanting wagons (which strikes me as red-herringy btw - nobody has suggested that we shouldn't have wagons), you don't seem too concerned about who the wagons are, just so long as we have them - which also gets a wut?
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Old 10-22-2013, 05:21 PM   #364
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Re: Battle of Hyrdas Werewolf Game

yeah i could prlly move things around in teh middle quite a bit i suppose

with the you/tappo read i just kinda didn't like the way he was making reads about players, i think that timi thing is a really easy way for a wolf to attack someone. dunno just something seems off. he does seem to be a very technical sort of player though so i could just be misguided.

i say we lynch the poorly undertitled and go from there
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Old 10-22-2013, 05:22 PM   #365
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also i think there may be some chance this latest 180 by wn might be some sort of spew play ;p
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Old 10-22-2013, 05:22 PM   #366
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If we're going down this path, let's lynch iversonian/Donk first. Neither of them have been remotely villagery.

At least fank is "new" (to POG at least, player from elsewhere right?), and well named is full of excuses and such. Iversonian and Donk are both just howling.
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Old 10-22-2013, 05:23 PM   #367
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self conscious in a wolfy way
erm, what?

If he's actually self-conscious, doesn't he say to himself "hey, I'm forcing reads here, let me take some out/save 'em for later" or something like that?

I'm pretty sure that's a remarkably villagery thing to say, actually.
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Old 10-22-2013, 05:23 PM   #368
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Must say I'm kinda shocked to be down that low Leo, but whatevs -- I agree with the top four of the list (maaaaybe not pitch/kokiri but I'm splitting hairs), I'd put bhuber/timi a good bit lower, probably swap them with Herbie/Thingy, and then once that's done squish your bottom three tiers excluding myselves into one big pile of "not exactly villagery".

Is it bad that I don't really have any even moderately solid wolf reads at this point? Or is that because the wolves basically haven't posted yet? (Or, again, I offer the "no, you just suck at werewolf especially on day 1" option.)
It could be because there are no reads on day 1 (or until you lynch a wolf)
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Old 10-22-2013, 05:25 PM   #369
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If we're going down this path, let's lynch iversonian/Donk first. Neither of them have been remotely villagery.

At least fank is "new" (to POG at least, player from elsewhere right?), and well named is full of excuses and such. Iversonian and Donk are both just howling.
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Old 10-22-2013, 05:27 PM   #370
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yeah i could prlly move things around in teh middle quite a bit i suppose

with the you/tappo read i just kinda didn't like the way he was making reads about players, i think that timi thing is a really easy way for a wolf to attack someone. dunno just something seems off. he does seem to be a very technical sort of player though so i could just be misguided.

i say we lynch the poorly undertitled and go from there
I'm pretty sure it was basically a guy who lives in Finland going after a guy who lives in god knows what hellhole of a country trying to explain each other in their second or third language.

I'm starting to come around on the last point somewhat. I've just seen WN AIDS up a game as a villager though (no offense WN, and not that I was much better) and I kinda still don't want to but he's probably the best of a not great lot though if I had to vote right now.

My urge to start a wagon on our zero posting masons is building rapidly though. Monk I can forgive on account of Tappo decided to peek him, but two non-posting people is kinda rustling my jimmies.
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Old 10-22-2013, 05:27 PM   #371
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It could be because there are no reads on day 1 (or until you lynch a wolf)
do you actually believe this? This is a stereotypically wolfy thing to say, but I'm surprised to see it from you and I'm not going to burn your house down just yet. But at best you are way wrong. d1 is a great day for reads typically
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Old 10-22-2013, 05:28 PM   #372
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Did you have any thoughts on what I said about your voting earlier - that, though you're talking a lot about wanting wagons (which strikes me as red-herringy btw - nobody has suggested that we shouldn't have wagons),

yet at the time i made that post and voted herbie, there was nobody with more than 2 votes.

you don't seem too concerned about who the wagons are, just so long as we have them - which also gets a wut?

no, i don't, for now. i believe that information comes from seeing how people react to wagons. now that we have some consolidation, we can start probing into how much people really want to lynch the guys they're voting. even still, it's hard to understand what it really means until later, after we see some bodies.
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Old 10-22-2013, 05:30 PM   #373
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It could be because there are no reads on day 1 (or until you lynch a wolf)
Nah, I used to think that way, and to think that my tone reading completely sucked. I was wrong, or I got better at it, because the day 1 stuff matters.

I've noticed it's a LOT harder for me to formulate reads on day 1 when I am not in the thread all day and I'm just reading words on a screen. When I can't do that (see: every day of this game), I do suck early on*.





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Old 10-22-2013, 05:31 PM   #374
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do you actually believe this? This is a stereotypically wolfy thing to say, but I'm surprised to see it from you and I'm not going to burn your house down just yet. But at best you are way wrong. d1 is a great day for reads typically
i'll repost it in postgame, but i will offer to lay you 2-1, for any game that neither of us are in, that a villager is lynched on d1. run it for the next 10 pog games and then settle the wager.
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Old 10-22-2013, 05:31 PM   #375
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dwetzel: I disagree with you about wolves and self-consciously awkward posting, but it doesn't seem like an interesting argument to have
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