whenever i give my opinion on something or point out weird things you call it 'soft pushing', which i still dont really understand

you trying to save your wolf bro from outing himself?

Can you tell me whats wrong with these two quotes?

soft pushing is when you try to subtly imply that someone is a wolf but never actually directly call them a wolf or own up to it

it's wolfy because you are trying to get someone pressured or lynched but when it happens and they flip villager you can say "oh i didn't push him!"

there is a difference between just a vote and hard pushing or tunneling someone for consecutive days

well that settles where my vote will be today

We have to let Leo pick where the votes go, both today and tomorrow, and then we vote first. Sure, we get to have input and all... but the only way to ensure the village votes together is for a villager to pick where the votes go.

It seems crazy to me that anyone would be suggesting voting in any other way

I have a very clear idea of who I think the remaining two wolves are but I want to hear from Bhuber first.

So if Leo decides everyone should vote you should we just vote you?

Since the village must vote together today and tomorrow, we need the last lock villager to tell the village where to place the votes.

If for some reason Leo doesn't want to say anything, I'll probably (right now about 95%) vote bhuber at the last minute tomorrow night.

Then bhuber goes, Leo gets eaten, and it's me, Xkf, and Redd. Again, we need a villager to decide where the votes go, which is why we need Leo to decide that today as well.

Well, the wolves would win... but the village can't win if the villagers' votes get split anyways.

You guys should be focused more on clearing yourself if you are a villager.

Eod is still 24 hours away.

I know I'm a villager
Leo knows he's a villager
Someone else knows they're a villager

How do we all vote the same way unless we have a leader here? We need to both hit both wolves, and do it together. That means we need Leo to decide who to vote for as he's the only person that both villagers will trust to pick. The picks still need to be right, but at least we'll have a chance.

If I knew how to do that, I would. For now, I'm just trying to keep the conversation going as that's the best I can do.

The best case I can make for myself to be the villager is that this is the first game of ww I've ever played, and if I was a wolf playing like this I probably would've given away my role many times by now.

Leo - lock villager - if he's wolf, the game is already over.
bhuber - in my mind, lock wolf

My doubts on Xkf and Redd:

Xkf - You were my #2 pick for a while... and I saw you+bhuber getting thrown around a lot. I'm less sure now though. Your tone today is very villagery imo, but I've found that I'm not overly good at that yet.

Redd - DWetzel said I should never lynch you. Strong words... and yet today you're poking at some stuff I'm saying, and it seems really weak. If you're a wolf, you need either me or Xkf to go down. Part of me thinks it's coming from you testing me for how villagery I am, and part of me is worried you're trying to see if you can sell me as the wolf.

Since I'm not overly good at reading people here yet, I'm hoping to be as open as I can so that someone catches something that I don't see.

I'll respond to all of this and give my thoughts on you, xkf, and bhuber but first I want to see what happens when Bhuber comes in the thread.

Why do you want to wait?

I dont want to give away my thoughts and have it affect how people react to each other. I want to see natural interactions when Bhuber gets into the thread.

lol ask your partner the same question

what are you talking about?

We are lock clear

Obv we want to hear everything that you guys have to say before we vote.

I can spoil it for you

He's going to come into the thread, vote me, call everyone an idiot and try to strong arm everyone into mislynching me

this is the opposite of correct

klairic, any way that drewbie can post some of his thoughts in the thread

and not like, me and klairic think xxx, just what he thinks about xkf/bhuber/redd

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2mqqCMu-LM

Why

You have to find 2 wolves in 4 people

I have to find 2 wolves in 3 people since you're lock clear

i have thoughts

i also plan on doing a full re-read tonight

i bought energy drinks and snacks just for the occasion

i'm not saying **** about who i wanna vote just yet

redd i would like if you and suq could go ahead and just lay out what you are thinking