seems to me like he's leaving his options open to voting him and having to take no accountability for his vote

So fnord said he was on sleeper... When sleeper was top wagon fnord was on wn lol. And stayed there helping sleeper be tied to wn... Lol caught

Tom quoted part of it. I thought Hoya was wolfy d1 and said so, though I also said I didn't want to lynch him d1 because mislynching Hoya d1 is pretty horrible, so that is kind of a strike against me unless and until batm flips wolf.

If batm is a power wolf I am pretty damn clear, so if you think he's a wolf I should never die before him. If you don't think he's a wolf then fine, but I am a villager.

Talking about fnord bro... U willing to give him villa points. I just showed u he wasn't, he is lying

i haven't done any work all game

I think grant has been wolfy but the thing that bugs me is the defense of hoya. I feel like in the last year or so I've been in situations like ~10 times where I thought that a particular very conspicuous interaction between two people made them w/w and I think I've been wrong 100%. It's literally the only thing that's making me doubt my wolf read on him. I can elaborate on this later

Nice to join us. Good start.
I think u are a villager too, thanks for thinking straight

Thoughts on all this?

I think Kruze is TOO confident about BATM

So he's either busing or BATM is a villager

However we know Hoya was a counter wagon to BATM at first and he's a vanilla wolf

So it makes 0 sense to bus a power wolf over a vanilla wolf if Kruze is a wolf

So if Kruze is a wolf I think BATM is a villager unless Kruze went deeeeeeep with his bus

Let's kill u know. I'm not a wolf

Except you didn't and are ignoring big details to fit your narrative.

Grant voting for BATM at eod1 "because he doesn't want a Disko wagon" is pretty shady

But BATM sounds like a villager as he's getting lynched on EOD1

The comments about how "this sucks" and nike and wn are villas

No reason to do that as a wolf IMO

I think if we Vig Kruze and he flips wolf we can give BATM another day

And yeah I'm serious about that

Ok another lock clear? Sure lets kill kruze to prove it. But then again he's kruze and prob a villa here.

It would be great if kruze would kruze back on in here but doesn't his "are there ITAs in this game?" thing sound like the kind of unfeigned derp you'd expect from his village game? I still think it is.

Lol another day? How about I'm lock cleared 3 diff ways? Lol u mean wolves give me another day?

Kruze started pushing BATM hard when Hoya was top wagon

FYI

It means nothing to me. I don't expect him to derp. I expect him to play. He chose to not play yesterday.

What did you find so villagery about Hoya batm?

What I ignored?

That u called so,done a wolf and didnt vote them?
Or that u called so,done a wolf and when it was tied with the person u were on u stayed on it?
And didn't try to kill the wolf u called a wolf?

This is called soft pushing and then u were like oh ****

He defended me and pointed out I was a villager. There

I'm actually interested in your answer, not just asking to be a jerk.

The part where I said he had been wolfy but mislynching Hoya d1 is a huge blunder and that I thought his role would become clearer as time went on.

quoting this to encourage additions/discussion and to provide an initial tally

and i just realized i missed fnord's post where he said that his first choice is BATM and his second choice is Mor_Tilt

BATM (Gad, fnord)
ZomgHax (Gad, JD)
Mor_Tilt (Gad, fnord)
killer_kill (Tom, UAW)
diskoteque (UAW, Tom)
Telcontar (UAW, JD)
KruZe (Tom, JD)
grant2 (UAW)
well named (JD)
fnord_too (JD)

so seven players with 2+ "votes" so far (irrespective of the affiliations of the people nominating them, obv, which we can deal with once we've had more discussion) -- let's see if we can come up with a leaner list of three or four

of the people named, I have a mild objection to disko and a medium-ish objection to Telc/grant/well named/fnord

Ok. But no credit for saying that. U are defending him lol... So who is a wolf other than me?

So now here is where you need to learn to not judge people simply by whether they call you villager or wolf, but I think you already know that. Iirc in hidden agendas you held of on getting kruze I think it was because even though he thought you were wolfy you thought he was villagery.