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07-10-2014 , 11:23 AM
BTW I'm more clear than Domer since i don't have godfather equity.

If you guys can trick bigger or mor into counterclaiming, then they'll have insta-outed themselves as a wolf & we'll have to thunderdome that situation.
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07-10-2014 , 11:24 AM
I think the game officially ends around 1:30 today when wolves achieve parity though. So kinda moot.
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07-10-2014 , 11:25 AM
If that's the case why are we here? My assumption was it would already be called if so. There is no way to prevent the wolf day vig afaik. My guess is parity is evaluated at EOD
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07-10-2014 , 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Top Tier Tom
Killer is a lock wolf on tone, by the way. Realized that last night.
i am super-fine with disko/killer wagons

pending what happens with the day vig and what (if anything) we can glean from it, my preference is probably going to be disko, but it's not like bigger where there's a nagging thing that says he could easily be villa

that being said, killer is one of those people who honestly i wouldn't be surprised whatever they flip (so i guess it's a different kind of nagging thing) if he's a villager he needs to get here and he needs to post
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07-10-2014 , 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by well named
If that's the case why are we here? My assumption was it would already be called if so. There is no way to prevent the wolf day vig afaik. My guess is parity is evaluated at EOD
At 6-6 wolves can just force a rand lynch if they want to, and that's assuming we are perfect.
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07-10-2014 , 11:27 AM
oh right

lol

lol
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07-10-2014 , 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Top Tier Tom
I think the game officially ends around 1:30 today when wolves achieve parity though. So kinda moot.
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If that's the case why are we here? My assumption was it would already be called if so. There is no way to prevent the wolf day vig afaik. My guess is parity is evaluated at EOD
why are we here regardless, honestly

but yeah, i think the OP talks about how/when parity means a wolf win
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07-10-2014 , 11:28 AM
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Win conditions
The wolf win condition is as follows: The wolves win when they have reached irrevocable parity with the village team. (Mod note: normally, achieving parity will be sufficient to win, but we can envision some situations where the village has a lot of vigging power and such and might be able to dig their way out. Basically, we'll let you know.)
fwiw

I don't know if "a vig" constitutes "a lot of vigging power," but we'll see what we see
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07-10-2014 , 11:29 AM
"irrevocable parity" is a good phrase

i might coopt it
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07-10-2014 , 11:29 AM
I guess the thing keeping the wolves from doing the bloc voting to force a flip is we could then hopefully get a vig off tonight and then it ends up at a traditional must lynch where they are all outed?
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07-10-2014 , 11:29 AM
yeah "irrevocable parity" clearly indicates it doesn't end at a day vig today because we can catch up with lynch + vig
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07-10-2014 , 11:30 AM
Domer currently writing a 10000 word treatise on how dwetzel should be perma banned from modding for allowing such a PR sweep
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07-10-2014 , 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Top Tier Tom
At 6-6 wolves can just force a rand lynch if they want to, and that's assuming we are perfect.
We get a revenge vig tonight.

If they hit, it's 5:4 tomorrow.
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07-10-2014 , 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by biggerboat
Yeah, I kinda remember that's the way it went down.

This bothers me more tbh. When people say stuff like this
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Nike had softclaimed but the softclaim seemed increasingly fake when it was not followed by a hard claim when people asked for it (or any more posts at all)

BATM was BATM and had significant BATM equity

I wish Nike had posted again; the gamestate would probably be completely different
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Bigger going over EOD of d1 right now (and calling me and Tom potential wolves because of it) is head scratching
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I'm assuming batm is a wolf and since he's the consensus lynch tonight I'm doing some work.
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Okay

What are your conclusions based on my post about why I did that?
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My conclusions are that my face is skeptical.
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Can you elaborate?
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You put a late vote on a villager. But it wasn't the vote, it was the comment. It skepticized my facial region.
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Right

What about the comment?
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Are you a lawyer or something?

Spoiler:
I keed
anyway, this bugged me at the time last night

not the work or the professed skepticism but the evasion of any actual explanation of why my response made him skeptical

i connected it just now with how easy it could have been for wolf bigger to throw out that Vagos/Hoya w/w tinfoil comment on d1 and then respond with something similar to the above if asked to expand on it
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07-10-2014 , 11:33 AM
and with that i need to leave again
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07-10-2014 , 11:35 AM
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Killer is a lock wolf on tone, by the way. Realized that last night.
Hi, welcome to my opening statement.

At work eating lynch before shift.

And everyone is pointing out what I already did - there MUST be at least one wolf if not more in the people no one is suspecting. One of Gad/vagos/TTT/Kruze is a wolf and we need to wrap our collective brains around that or just give up now.

We aren't at tinfoil with Vagos yet so only he and Grant should be considered completely off limits.

I'm not advocating we lynch Gad or something, I'm saying we need to reevaluate our reads. All of them. If not this instant then very very soon.
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07-10-2014 , 11:35 AM
i mean, from my perspective it seems nearly a lock that bigger is a wolf. But it also seems nearly a lock that disko is, or killer, or basically everyone on my wolf list

Or at least, I can't even begin to imagine that I'm wrong on more than one wolf at this point.

My opinion is the only thing that really has to happen for us to win this game is

1) don't go prematurely full ****** on conspiracy theories (re: gad/tom/grant/vagos)
2) don't lynch me!
3) profit
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07-10-2014 , 11:39 AM
RJ eats lynches for breakfast
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07-10-2014 , 11:39 AM
I'm guessing Kruze is a wolf after all and summoned his max WIM.

Which is impressive for him.

So kudos.
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07-10-2014 , 11:41 AM
I mean someone is just having a stellar wolf game.

Pro wolf set too no doubt but unless the wolf team is like exactly killer/disko/bigger/mod/Kruze/and one of UAW or well names or JD then wtf? And Kruze would be having a pretty damn good wolf game in this scenario. JD or UAW too according to those with more meta on them.

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07-10-2014 , 11:44 AM
we kind of have to hope that the wolf team IS exactly killer/disko/bigger/mortilt/kruze/JD

what are the odds we're going to successfully lynch a gad-wolf, tom-wolf, grant-wolf, or vagos-wolf before we mislynch? like zero?

My opinion is we just concede the game for those cases and take our shot. I don't think there is a better way to play this. Obviously we're still huge underdogs to win since we have no room for error, but it's because we have no room for error that we have to play the probabilities and hope for the best
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07-10-2014 , 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by well named
RJ eats lynches for breakfast
I'm not sure what you mean by this but thanks I think?
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07-10-2014 , 11:46 AM
Also realized phone auto corrected mor to mod.

The mod is probably a wolf here too.

Sick phone smarts.
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07-10-2014 , 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by well named
we kind of have to hope that the wolf team IS exactly killer/disko/bigger/mortilt/kruze/JD

what are the odds we're going to successfully lynch a gad-wolf, tom-wolf, grant-wolf, or vagos-wolf before we mislynch? like zero?

My opinion is we just concede the game for those cases and take our shot. I don't think there is a better way to play this. Obviously we're still huge underdogs to win since we have no room for error, but it's because we have no room for error that we have to play the probabilities and hope for the best
I'll second this. Though I don't know how to clear you.

My suggestion is lynch Disko and shoot from killer and mor.
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07-10-2014 , 11:47 AM
you posted that you were "eating lynch before your shift" so I make funny joke ahahah
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