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07-09-2014 , 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Top Tier Tom
Who do you think was busing Hoya?
Not really sure considering the vanilla flip could a been a lot of people.

The again what do I know I hard defended a wolf lol
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07-09-2014 , 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by diskoteque
why are you clear exactly?
the most transparently villagery thought processes in the game by someone who is not me

iyam
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07-09-2014 , 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by well named
oh no tom is an obvious villager I think but he still has to die for his effrontery
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Originally Posted by Gadarene
side note: Tom talking about how well named always sounds wolfy is very funny to me

EXTREMELY THIN AND ENTERTAINING TINFOIL THAT I MIGHT COME BACK TO LATER is that Tom and well named are w/w and Tom is projecting there
Not sure if it matters that wn never responded to this

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Originally Posted by Sleeper Service
This is a villager-y post.
Hoya said this about fnord in a similarly weak clearing capacity to him calling me a villager for my "dare I say I am more contemplative" post

Makes me think fnord villa more likely
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07-09-2014 , 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Gadarene
so click through here:



and read this in particular:



and then consider the following:

1) has not posted at all since a burst of World Cup fluff yesterday afternoon

2) did a bunch of posting on d1 and d2 in the morning, but hasn't shown up today

3) finished yesterday with 31 posts (including that fluff)

4) said himself before disappearing that a medium to low post count weights him towards wolf, which is a pretty cheeky way to own his meta while making it easy for people to level themselves

5) has had decentish tone while he's been here BUT HASN'T BEEN HERE BASICALLY SINCE THE MORNING OF D2

6) I don't remember where he finished on the d1 wagons, so I'll check that next

7) but yeah

at the very least I would like people to register affirmative opinions about him
Yeah Hax needs to post.


Monstr why did you say in early early game if Mor doesn't post he's a wolf?

Cuz he ain't posting but you ain't pushin?
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07-09-2014 , 12:34 PM
I also don't think it's as easy as "welp Hoya was a vanilla he must have been bussed a ton"

beyond the fact that BATM's affiliation there is relevant and as yet unresolved, Hoya is smart enough not to sign off on a plan that would be basically "okay, I'm going to be an obvious wolf for two days, so everyone push me for mega villa credit when i die!"
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07-09-2014 , 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Gadarene
can you talk about how he was super villagery on d1 beyond volume?
he had a wolf read on me based on my activity level and general "villageryness" so it showed me that he was at least thinking about my meta and what it meant w/r/t my affiliation. of course, you can argue that him being a wolf and pushing me, a villager, in that manner would make sense but believe it or not in my experiences wolves really havent used that as ammo against me very often. when i'm mailing it in as a villager i get villa cleared by people all the time (villas and wolves alike) because "i dont wolf that way" but i typically not the other way around
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07-09-2014 , 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by diskoteque
why are you clear exactly?
What Gad said

See my "how do you describe a rose" post for more info
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07-09-2014 , 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Top Tier Tom
Yeah Hax needs to post.


Monstr why did you say in early early game if Mor doesn't post he's a wolf?

Cuz he ain't posting but you ain't pushin?
at what point if Hax doesn't post does it make him >rand wolf in your eyes?

and how much posting from him coming back would satisfy you that he's >>rand villa, assuming it was roughly at the same level of substance as his d1 posts (so, average)?
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07-09-2014 , 12:35 PM
Sup people, just woke up and took a shower. I feel freshly invigorated to keep this small bit of momentum we got going.

Honestly though I can't for the life of me understand how Happy was a villager there lol....
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07-09-2014 , 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Top Tier Tom
Yeah Hax needs to post.


Monstr why did you say in early early game if Mor doesn't post he's a wolf?

Cuz he ain't posting but you ain't pushin?
Idk it seemed like he'd likely be the type of player to play like that

However I'm not sure I like who is pushing him so idk

He was like 57% wolfy or some **** but he's probably a villager
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07-09-2014 , 12:36 PM
I want Disko to be a villager solely for speedy responses but IIRC he had this kind of pep in Star Wars
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07-09-2014 , 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by diskoteque
he had a wolf read on me based on my activity level and general "villageryness" so it showed me that he was at least thinking about my meta and what it meant w/r/t my affiliation. of course, you can argue that him being a wolf and pushing me, a villager, in that manner would make sense but believe it or not in my experiences wolves really havent used that as ammo against me very often. when i'm mailing it in as a villager i get villa cleared by people all the time (villas and wolves alike) because "i dont wolf that way" but i typically not the other way around
hmm

turtles
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07-09-2014 , 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Gadarene
I also don't think it's as easy as "welp Hoya was a vanilla he must have been bussed a ton"

beyond the fact that BATM's affiliation there is relevant and as yet unresolved, Hoya is smart enough not to sign off on a plan that would be basically "okay, I'm going to be an obvious wolf for two days, so everyone push me for mega villa credit when i die!"
See now you're over exaggerating my argument.

There was definitely a wolf bussing hoya.
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07-09-2014 , 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by monstrman
Idk it seemed like he'd likely be the type of player to play like that

However I'm not sure I like who is pushing him so idk

He was like 57% wolfy or some **** but he's probably a villager
So... You didn't have experience with him but just soul read him as a slanky wolf?

lol?
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07-09-2014 , 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by killer_kill
Sup people, just woke up and took a shower. I feel freshly invigorated to keep this small bit of momentum we got going.

Honestly though I can't for the life of me understand how Happy was a villager there lol....
with quickness, please name the three or four people that you would want the villa day vig to rand their shot from among

also if you could then explain in a decent amount of detail your thought processes behind your EOD posts yesterday, that would be awesome
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07-09-2014 , 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Top Tier Tom
I want Disko to be a villager solely for speedy responses but IIRC he had this kind of pep in Star Wars
AND im eating a delicious sandwich
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07-09-2014 , 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Gadarene
at what point if Hax doesn't post does it make him >rand wolf in your eyes?

and how much posting from him coming back would satisfy you that he's >>rand villa, assuming it was roughly at the same level of substance as his d1 posts (so, average)?
I don't know

Xkf thought he was a very likely villager D1

That's all I got
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07-09-2014 , 12:38 PM
Alright I tried to get to work early but a massive car wreck made that impossible. Still I'm already late so another five minutes won't hurt. This will be my only post until my first break. For those who don't know, Monday and Tuesday are my weekend, and I have a job with no internet access except on break. So if you want to make a case on me bear in mind anyone citing my much lower involvement from here on out is either brain dead or has an agenda.

As much as I want batm to be a wolf because it would lock clear me, his posting today (I skimmed most of it in the massive traffic jam) is what I would have expected to see all along from a villager batm, so I'm now feeling less confident about him. I think there's still a chance he's a PR wolf who is now summoning his best village facade because he knows he a a target and how close the wolves are to a win. So yeah I'm waffling on him at the moment.

We need to strongly consider there's at least one more wolf in the "obvious villagers" like Gad or monstr or TTT. I find it hard to believe the remaining wolves are all in the slankers or middling posters. Your "refuse to consider" lists should be very small at this point.

Finally vig should IMO shoot from killer/hax. Talked about why yesterday for both. Also consider Kruze/bigger/mor.

Out until first break.
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07-09-2014 , 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by monstrman
See now you're over exaggerating my argument.

There was definitely a wolf bussing hoya.
i wasn't intending to exaggerate your argument. i've seen a number of people today talk about how Hoya being vanilla makes concerted bussing seem logical

i don't doubt at all that there was at least one wolf bussing Hoya, though I'd need to go back and read (and prepare sufficient eye scrubbing materials to wade through some of the stinkiest stuff) to try and figure out the most likely candidates
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07-09-2014 , 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Top Tier Tom
So... You didn't have experience with him but just soul read him as a slanky wolf?

lol?
I've had experience with him?

Just never seen his wolf game and it didn't remind me of his villager game

Lol?
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07-09-2014 , 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by diskoteque
AND im eating a delicious sandwich
what kind of sandwich?

ANSWER NOW

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Originally Posted by Top Tier Tom
I don't know

Xkf thought he was a very likely villager D1

That's all I got
okay

do they have particular history that you're aware of, or?
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07-09-2014 , 12:43 PM
do are the wolves most likely out of angels at this point?
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07-09-2014 , 12:43 PM
so*


if not, BATM is probably still the beneficiary of one. or at least a watch.
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07-09-2014 , 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by well named
fnord: I see you got there before me but I'm reading it now. He defended him in a way where earlier I said I was worried it was the kind of thing where it turns out it's never a wolf doing it, in my experience. But it does still seem incredibly wolfy to me in terms of the way he goes about it. I have to decide what to do with it
First blush on those posts is that they are wolfy. I only grabbed his posts off the page your original quote was on, not sure if he had anything after those. I'm getting a headache from him wanting to go batm. Actually that original was from 90 minutes before night I think, not 30 I think. I'm going to look at eod. I am especially interested in grants progression and the attempted happy cfd.
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07-09-2014 , 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by SGT RJ
Alright I tried to get to work early but a massive car wreck made that impossible. Still I'm already late so another five minutes won't hurt. This will be my only post until my first break. For those who don't know, Monday and Tuesday are my weekend, and I have a job with no internet access except on break. So if you want to make a case on me bear in mind anyone citing my much lower involvement from here on out is either brain dead or has an agenda.

As much as I want batm to be a wolf because it would lock clear me, his posting today (I skimmed most of it in the massive traffic jam) is what I would have expected to see all along from a villager batm, so I'm now feeling less confident about him. I think there's still a chance he's a PR wolf who is now summoning his best village facade because he knows he a a target and how close the wolves are to a win. So yeah I'm waffling on him at the moment.

We need to strongly consider there's at least one more wolf in the "obvious villagers" like Gad or monstr or TTT. I find it hard to believe the remaining wolves are all in the slankers or middling posters. Your "refuse to consider" lists should be very small at this point.

Finally vig should IMO shoot from killer/hax. Talked about why yesterday for both. Also consider Kruze/bigger/mor.

Out until first break.
the paranoia and assertion of pretty obvious statements as if they were new thoughts is slightly villagery but the use of "massive" twice is slightly wolfy

and maybe given "how close the wolves are to a win," focusing on low-equity targets because one of them might be a wolf seems suboptimal, when the best thing to do would seem to be go after the people who aren't being villagery and try to stem the tide

but then the actual proposed shot list is fine and in keeping with the latter strategy

and the post shape is villagery

conclusion: SEEMS FINE I GUESS IDK, NO CHANGE TO PREVIOUS READ, ASK AGAIN LATER
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