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07-08-2014 , 05:02 PM
highly confident that fnord will flip wolf given that BATM probably will not
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07-08-2014 , 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Sleeper Service
highly confident that fnord will flip wolf given that BATM probably will not
wut
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07-08-2014 , 05:04 PM
it seems way likelier that the wolves tracked him and knew he was a PR than it is likely that they just pulled an elite tone read out of thin air and binked the seer
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07-08-2014 , 05:05 PM
if i'm dead tomorrow someone should also take a look at one of those postcount by day charts on d3 or d4 to see if anything jumps out

prob more utility in a big mash, but i definitely remember getting wolves that way in the past

(of course it should be balanced against the likelihood of general loss of WIM after this afternoon)
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07-08-2014 , 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by KruZe
no tears now
The only tears induced by soccer are tears of laughter.
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07-08-2014 , 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Vagos
disko, you gonna admit you were BS'ing about the "I never post at EOD as a wolf" being a LOCK TELL - seeing as I took the time to (on your command) to go find two examples of it happening? One of them being I believe your most recent wolf game?
i know you're a villager so it's very frustrating for me to be dealing with this issue still (since it can easily be resolved by you taking the time to actually go through my games and confirming that i'm telling the truth)

i know how i play when i'm a wolf. there's no doubt in my mind that my activity levels as a wolf at EoD are very low relative to my activity level as a villager. i think there is a huge discrepancy, actually. if you're only willing to look at 3 or 4 nights and roll with that, small sample size be damned, then what am i supposed to do? if you want to be a good little lock clear village captain and spend the 30-60mins it takes to clear a villager, that would be awesome.
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07-08-2014 , 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Sleeper Service
it seems way likelier that the wolves tracked him and knew he was a PR than it is likely that they just pulled an elite tone read out of thin air and binked the seer
i feel like a halfway competent wolfteam would ~never use the tracker action n1, and i feel like you should know that too

which is not very consistent with your construction of a megaelite wolf team composed of me, domer, and fnord
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07-08-2014 , 05:07 PM
My wagon is in the running for least pure wagonomics of all time
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07-08-2014 , 05:08 PM
that makes no sense, you either watch or you track, if track whiffs you get more info than you do if watch whiffs, which is what will usually happen with either one
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07-08-2014 , 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by diskoteque
i know you're a villager so it's very frustrating for me to be dealing with this issue still (since it can easily be resolved by you taking the time to actually go through my games and confirming that i'm telling the truth)

i know how i play when i'm a wolf. there's no doubt in my mind that my activity levels as a wolf at EoD are very low relative to my activity level as a villager. i think there is a huge discrepancy, actually. if you're only willing to look at 3 or 4 nights and roll with that, small sample size be damned, then what am i supposed to do? if you want to be a good little lock clear village captain and spend the 30-60mins it takes to clear a villager, that would be awesome.
disko, this sort of seems like a silly endeavor

how many of your games would you propose he go through to collect enough data points? what level of difference in posting volume would be statistically significant to "clear a villager"?

if it was the case that you legit NEVER post much at EOD as a wolf, that would be one thing (and you'd be blowing up your own spot for future games), but given that the assertion is apparently not true for literally your most recent wolf game, i'm not sure why you're still asserting that it's a fruitful line of inquiry
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07-08-2014 , 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Sleeper Service
that makes no sense, you either watch or you track, if track whiffs you get more info than you do if watch whiffs, which is what will usually happen with either one
either i'm misunderstanding something or you are (or you're pretending to)

one sec
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07-08-2014 , 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by diskoteque
i know you're a villager so it's very frustrating for me to be dealing with this issue still (since it can easily be resolved by you taking the time to actually go through my games and confirming that i'm telling the truth)

i know how i play when i'm a wolf. there's no doubt in my mind that my activity levels as a wolf at EoD are very low relative to my activity level as a villager. i think there is a huge discrepancy, actually. if you're only willing to look at 3 or 4 nights and roll with that, small sample size be damned, then what am i supposed to do? if you want to be a good little lock clear village captain and spend the 30-60mins it takes to clear a villager, that would be awesome.
This is what you said:

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i have a super secret disko wolf tell that im gonna let you investigate overnight and clear me tomorrow morning

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as a wolf i am almost never around at EoD
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no its actually quite incredible how rarely im around even a couple hours before EoD (and especially on days 1-3). please actually go look into it, shouldnt be too long/time consuming.
I looked at maybe 5 games and found 2 were you posted during an early EOD as a wolf. You realize you don't rand wolf all that much right? There's not a huge sample to work with here.

I mean, ya, you slank away from EODs as a wolf - more often than not even

But you were posting terribly at EOD and I think you knew that and brought this up - and now that I've actually looked into it, we discover it's more of a tendency than a super secret wolf tell that can clear you - and so you don't really wanna talk about it anymore

which leads us back to your EOD, with your wolfy posts and your off wagon vote - and it will be especially damning (imo) if BATM flips wolf
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07-08-2014 , 05:13 PM
So you never angel n1 Hoya? Like if the second wagon, batm, is a wolf you don't angel him n1?
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07-08-2014 , 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Toon Mod
You are the Wolf Godfather watcher/tracker/3x angel. Starting n1, each night AND each day, you may choose to watch someone to find out who visits them, track someone to find out who that person visits, or angel someone to prevent their death. You may not target the same player with the same action on either consecutive phases or on consecutive days or nights (so if you watch target X on n1, you may not watch them on d2 or n2, but you could for instance track them d2 and then angel them n2). You have only three uses of your angel ability, so use them wisely. Day angeling someone will NOT prevent their lynch.
so no, tracking is pretty trivially not the optimal choice among the three

i guess you weren't familiar with the role though, huh
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07-08-2014 , 05:13 PM
this is the part where the wolves cling to their dying hope that I'll get lynched and wind up CFDing some hapless villager for nothing

today it'll probably be BATM
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07-08-2014 , 05:14 PM
I mean, you told me to look into it - I did, and I found that you are in fact capable of posting at EODs as a wolf. So it was a stupid defense on your part last night, and I think it's one you used because anyone who looks at your EOD posts would
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07-08-2014 , 05:14 PM
what does angeling have to do with watching or tracking
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07-08-2014 , 05:14 PM
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you could easily be 0 for 4 here


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I mean, if this game is you being villagery, is your wolf game just really that desolate?
Wow, you make it sound like I've made 10 posts and only given one read in the entire game.

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I think Gad is a villager and I could see fnord being a villager.

I now think Telc is a wolf after he turned on Gad so easily.
well thats ridiculous! If I'm a wolf, I never turn on Gad like that. I'd be so terrified how that might look that I would just never do it. If i had Gad villa early, it would take me about 4 days just to switch it, not two posts!

Plus i gave good reason for my thoughts, but you seem to have ignored them entirely and gone looking at the low hanging fruit.

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also, anyone possibly doubting domer's affiliation should take note of his utter deflation this afternoon

this is a broken man


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Originally Posted by diskoteque
my wolf reads have been pretty consistent throughout the game i think. i haven't read anything since ~1:30 but as of then my hit list was:

grant
sgt rj
mor

i was wrong on ivers. wrong on vagos. might be wrong on domer but i dont want to go down that road yet, especially since i've been wrong on him a lot recently. i'm kinda feeling better about WN and Killer today. BATM too though there's a chance we unlock a lot of info with his death. maybe its time to throw telcontar in too.
ftr, wolves are the kind of people who worry about their reads being consistent. Villagers are not afraid to change.

I'm definitely watching you now.
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07-08-2014 , 05:15 PM
oh I see
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07-08-2014 , 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Sleeper Service
what does angeling have to do with watching or tracking
wat
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07-08-2014 , 05:17 PM
angeling on n1 still seems pretty bad to me but I guess if BATM were a wolf you'd kinda have to

I don't think he is so probably I'm right still, I think
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07-08-2014 , 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Sleeper Service
what does angeling have to do with watching or tracking
Unless I'm mistaken, gf can watch track OR angel. He can only angel 3 times all game though.
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07-08-2014 , 05:17 PM
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Wow, you make it sound like I've made 10 posts and only given one read in the entire game.
well, I mean, I've perused your posts a few times and I don't see anything you're not (to my knowledge) capable of doing as a wolf
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07-08-2014 , 05:17 PM
I didn't realize the angel was exclusive of the watch / track, I don't know dude
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07-08-2014 , 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Sleeper Service
angeling on n1 still seems pretty bad to me but I guess if BATM were a wolf you'd kinda have to

I don't think he is so probably I'm right still, I think
Why do you think batm is a villager again?
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