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alright so database report:

killer_kill has played 9 long games, and only been lynched once

the one time he was lynched, he was a wolf

he doesn't seem like a player that ERRRYONE should be suspicious of on day 1

well in my mind this polarizes domer for me...like if killer is a wolf, then domer is a villa, and the opposite as well.

yes i get that it could be true v/v crime, but I think this is pretty damning evidence.

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07-07-2014 , 06:45 PM

#1928

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Originally Posted by Top Tier Tom

I think the database is missing games because I've definitely lynched his ass as a villager more than once

it almost definitely has because I've been a mislynch in more than one game.

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Originally Posted by diskoteque

And in the game you quoted I was assuming a much more villa captain role than I am here. Read the posts I made around the one you quoted and compare to this game

right, you were more freely able to assume that role because the woalves had a strong foothold to dig into entering the midgame.

it's d1 here and this isn't a mash so a lot is going to rest on securing the first mislynch. you can't rly afford to be super vociferous with your death list but if you manage to sway some UTRs into thinking you're trustworthy it's worth it.

could you comment on my poast about that sort of definitive "ok, we're killing from here guise nowhere else" style list not being particularly helpful/conducive to game-solving?

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Originally Posted by MFFNike

We're 100% lynching a villager tonight

Notice the complete lack of movement on wagons

MFFNike is calling a blowout in a game where we have lead changes every ~2 minutes

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07-07-2014 , 06:46 PM

#1931

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Originally Posted by domer2

bigger, do me a favor

put a placeholder vote on killer_kill while you catch up

this wagon needs to start building somehow

sure

killer kill

disclaimer - haven't read a single post of his

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#1932

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Originally Posted by Top Tier Tom

Right shoulder, Angel: but he seemed villagery this morning when you two were getting along

Left shoulder, Devil: yeah but it's not like people can't fake being villagery, I mean how else do wolves win games

Angel: yes but could he fake it with you on the fly like he did earlier? Is he a competent wolf? I didn't think he had that sort of reputation

Devil: wolfy is wolfy regardless man, he can't just come in and be wolfy as **** and get a free pass for it because of something that happened 6 hours ago

Me: ugh

I mean he certainly wouldn't be the first villager to say something obscenely wolfy.

I didn't read earlier of course.

WW is hard, yo.

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Originally Posted by corycurren

He went away from POG for a while, first time I've seen him back in some time (although I don't play as much anymore), and I enjoy playing with him.

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07-07-2014 , 06:47 PM

#1933

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Originally Posted by monstrman

Why do you only take long games into account? You can learn more from a player by playing turbos with them imo.

Turbos are a lot different from long games

It's why I'm above average at turbos and well below average at long games

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Polarizing anyone is a false dichotomy. I learned that in science class the other day from bhuber.

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07-07-2014 , 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Top Tier Tom

I think the database is missing games because I've definitely lynched his ass as a villager more than once

and then TTT goes and destroys the case completely.

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07-07-2014 , 06:47 PM

#1936

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Originally Posted by J.D.

how can that possibly mean domah has to be a wolf if killah should happen to flip villa?

there is absolutely NOTHING preventing that domah post from being v/v

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Originally Posted by biggerboat

sure

killer kill

disclaimer - haven't read a single post of his

Even though this is wolfy it's actually villagery

lol

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07-07-2014 , 06:47 PM

#1938

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And Tom is now super likely to be villa

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#1939

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Originally Posted by J.D.

not damning evidence

and lol @ "the opposite as well"

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Originally Posted by MFFNike

Villagers:

Telc
cory
disko
domer2
Kruze
killer_kill
Top Tier Tom
xkf
Sleeper Service
monstrman
Gadarene
Mor_Tilt4mePls
Vagos
well named

Not sure:

biggerboat
confirmedtroll
Eurotrash
fnord_too
UAW710
SGT RJ
J.D.
Nofear3838
grant2
iversonian

Wolves:

Zomghax
Happy_Fish
TheBrokenATM! (would have 500+ posts already if villaging)

So your number one wolf candidate is a legit wagon. As is Iversonian who you have no read on yet.

But you're upset cause we're totes gonna lynch a villager? Why aren't you fighting to keep the lynch on BATM over Killer/Sleeper your villager reads? And instead just throwing your hands in the air and calling us bad?

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Originally Posted by corycurren

MFFNike is calling a blowout in a game where we have lead changes every ~2 minutes

TO BE FAIR

Every time I look at the lynch wagons I shudder and go "this would be so easy to manipulate as a wolf"

And then I go

"But they've been wolfy so I can't really comment or defend them that well"

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Originally Posted by Vagos

So you're just underwhelmed by the names on his wolf list, right? I mean, reads are reads. I'm not sure it's wise to apply his, typically YOLO nature as a villager in ITA games, to d1 of a V+.

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And in turn, applying his ITA lists as a wolf to said V+.

I take it you're ignoring this aspect or otherwise find it meaningless?

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Originally Posted by Eurotrash

one final thought:

how is it helpful to the village to attempt to restrict their thoughts to a small list of players like this? it doesn't rly facilitate actual villaging and ultimately comes across as an attempt to lead some lambs to slaughter

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#1943

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Originally Posted by Top Tier Tom

Hoya and Ivers and Killer are all undercurrent wagons waiting to ASPLODE

The longer killer stays away after that freak out the more I'd agree with his wagon irrespective of anything else.

No real opinion on the other two but I'd put Hoya last just because he's the most valuable to the village if he's a villager and losing him is never a good thing.

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#1944

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Originally Posted by Gadarene

And Tom is now super likely to be villa

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07-07-2014 , 06:49 PM

#1945

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Originally Posted by Eurotrash

agree just giving lists with no explanations is not the preferred means of pushing someone but if I think/know current wagons are villagers then it's still plus ev from my perspective.

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07-07-2014 , 06:50 PM

#1946

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Originally Posted by Top Tier Tom

I think the database is missing games because I've definitely lynched his ass as a villager more than once

Meh then.

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07-07-2014 , 06:50 PM

#1947

Gadarene

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confirmedtroll, at some point i hope you answer my question about why you thought my reads list was ****

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07-07-2014 , 06:50 PM

#1948

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Originally Posted by SGT RJ

I'm waiting to see what his EOEOD is like. He usually pops in at 8:30 or 8:40 after waking up from his graveyard shift sleep schedule. He basically never posts before 7 PM. But him being around earlier at like 4 makes me think we won't see him again at all.