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07-07-2014 , 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by well named
No deaths?

Booooooooring
i wanted vig tho
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07-07-2014 , 12:34 AM
ivers
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07-07-2014 , 12:37 AM
First sup bros
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07-07-2014 , 12:37 AM
Alright I spent a while going over the roles. This is a pro-wolf game. Wolves win 60% of V+ already, so we're way behind the 8 ball. But this game is worse due to the wolf killing power and the lack of village seering power. Why do I point this out? Because everybody needs to be on point and not **** around. That's not to say you have to post a billion times, but KNOW THE MECHANICS please.

Our seer is nerfed, which really sucks. It's paramount that people leave seer cover to protect our seer. Doesn't have to be obvious, you can leave it however you want trying to trick the wolves, but make sure it can be found on a careful re-read and it isn't vyk-esque confusion.

Note: the seer had a n0 random village peek, so do not leave a wolf peek.

Only RUNT needs to leave mason cover. And please do leave mason cover. Make sure it's complex such that the wolves cannot figure it out. Rita doesn't need to as she is the one who would be alive in the scenario that Runt is dead (and could explain Runt's mason cover).

Chicken - your "fake reveal" power gets progressively worse. I would strongly consider just using it night 1, if at all. The other power is good, but not great. If you're on the fence about claiming, claim.

As stated in the order of operations, seer protector & seer explodey due to wolf peek can't happen in the same night. So if you haven't seen the seer protector flip, the seer's peek will go through unmolested, w or v.

If the seer protector dies while the seer is still alive, DEPENDING ON THE GAME STATE, consider that everyone should possibly leave peek previews. It needs to be clear and unequivocal: "Tonight I will be peeking domer2." Don't worry about including your past seer cover in the post. It depends on the game state, though, because there is a down side to that strategy. It will eliminate seer possibilities (i.e. you post a wolf, and you don't die, wolves will know if they jailkept you or not, so you could out yourself as non-seer). Either way, all villagers need to protect the seer's identity, and must ensure we get the wolf peek. Seer's life is paramount. Failure to do so is playing against your team. Feel free to discuss seer strategy in the abstract, this is not anti-village.

FYI, the mod posted that flavor of who killed who will be clear, so if the seer gets got from a wolf peek, we're going to know. There won't be any mystery as to who killed him (obviously if the wolves kill the seer, instead of him dying, there's a distinct possibility he didn't peek a wolf).

It's important to know how the wolf godfather is going to operate. This isn't rocket science, but roles that interact with the Godfather need to know this. The Godfather is almost assuredly going to watch during the day, and angel at night. What this means: day-vig, you need to be careful about your target. You don't want to out yourself to the Godfather, who is likely to be watching who he thinks a villager is going to target. Likewise, night-vig, the Godfather is likely to angel at night.

Unfortunately for both teams, so much equity in this game is tied up in the Godfather role due to both his ability to evade peeks and his super powers. There's going to be an element of luck here.

This post is a bit verbose and overly explanatory right now, but will be a decent reference tool as the game progresses imho (or I wouldn't have done it). I may have gotten something wrong, so feel free to correct me.
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07-07-2014 , 12:40 AM
I'm the seer

Ignore domer
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07-07-2014 , 12:40 AM
Nice summary doamer. That saved me some time. I also thought the role set looked a but pro wolf when I skimmed it
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07-07-2014 , 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by domer2
Alright I spent a while going over the roles. This is a pro-wolf game. Wolves win 60% of V+ already, so we're way behind the 8 ball. But this game is worse due to the wolf killing power and the lack of village seering power. Why do I point this out? Because everybody needs to be on point and not **** around. That's not to say you have to post a billion times, but KNOW THE MECHANICS please.

Our seer is nerfed, which really sucks. It's paramount that people leave seer cover to protect our seer. Doesn't have to be obvious, you can leave it however you want trying to trick the wolves, but make sure it can be found on a careful re-read and it isn't vyk-esque confusion.

Note: the seer had a n0 random village peek, so do not leave a wolf peek.

Only RUNT needs to leave mason cover. And please do leave mason cover. Make sure it's complex such that the wolves cannot figure it out. Rita doesn't need to as she is the one who would be alive in the scenario that Runt is dead (and could explain Runt's mason cover).

Chicken - your "fake reveal" power gets progressively worse. I would strongly consider just using it night 1, if at all. The other power is good, but not great. If you're on the fence about claiming, claim.

As stated in the order of operations, seer protector & seer explodey due to wolf peek can't happen in the same night. So if you haven't seen the seer protector flip, the seer's peek will go through unmolested, w or v.

If the seer protector dies while the seer is still alive, DEPENDING ON THE GAME STATE, consider that everyone should possibly leave peek previews. It needs to be clear and unequivocal: "Tonight I will be peeking domer2." Don't worry about including your past seer cover in the post. It depends on the game state, though, because there is a down side to that strategy. It will eliminate seer possibilities (i.e. you post a wolf, and you don't die, wolves will know if they jailkept you or not, so you could out yourself as non-seer). Either way, all villagers need to protect the seer's identity, and must ensure we get the wolf peek. Seer's life is paramount. Failure to do so is playing against your team. Feel free to discuss seer strategy in the abstract, this is not anti-village.

FYI, the mod posted that flavor of who killed who will be clear, so if the seer gets got from a wolf peek, we're going to know. There won't be any mystery as to who killed him (obviously if the wolves kill the seer, instead of him dying, there's a distinct possibility he didn't peek a wolf).

It's important to know how the wolf godfather is going to operate. This isn't rocket science, but roles that interact with the Godfather need to know this. The Godfather is almost assuredly going to watch during the day, and angel at night. What this means: day-vig, you need to be careful about your target. You don't want to out yourself to the Godfather, who is likely to be watching who he thinks a villager is going to target. Likewise, night-vig, the Godfather is likely to angel at night.

Unfortunately for both teams, so much equity in this game is tied up in the Godfather role due to both his ability to evade peeks and his super powers. There's going to be an element of luck here.

This post is a bit verbose and overly explanatory right now, but will be a decent reference tool as the game progresses imho (or I wouldn't have done it). I may have gotten something wrong, so feel free to correct me.
ok
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07-07-2014 , 12:41 AM
well named i pretty much always read you as wolf

it's problem

but damn if your posts aren't wolfy so far
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07-07-2014 , 12:42 AM
tom if you're a villager, do me a solid and don't cheat

thanks man
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07-07-2014 , 12:43 AM
i think it's totes pro wolf but i randed villager, so we'll be fine.
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07-07-2014 , 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by domer2
tom if you're a villager, do me a solid and don't cheat

thanks man
If I just cause problems I'll spew myself villager faster
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07-07-2014 , 12:44 AM
so, what do you guise say about policy lynching the empty chair on d1?
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07-07-2014 , 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by iversonian
i think it's totes pro wolf but i randed villager, so we'll be fine.
ivers, i will legit be expecting graphs of pertinent information

not even kidding
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07-07-2014 , 12:45 AM
i found that domer2 tldr something woof would do for early villa points domer prolly pr woof
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07-07-2014 , 12:45 AM
iversonian
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07-07-2014 , 12:45 AM
my graphs are so elite that it's pretty much cheating, sibling.
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07-07-2014 , 12:45 AM
ivers
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07-07-2014 , 12:46 AM
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iversonian
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07-07-2014 , 12:47 AM
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Originally Posted by KruZe
i found that domer2 tldr something woof would do for early villa points domer prolly pr woof
yeah i really need those early villa points
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07-07-2014 , 12:47 AM
Barchu et Adonai hamevorach
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07-07-2014 , 12:47 AM
ok. i volunteer for first wagon. do i have a challenger?
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07-07-2014 , 12:47 AM
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Originally Posted by KruZe
i found that domer2 tldr something woof would do for early villa points domer prolly pr woof
The CDL approach huh

Chips would be disappointed
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07-07-2014 , 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by iversonian
ok. i volunteer for first wagon. do i have a challenger?
If anyone, WN
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07-07-2014 , 12:48 AM
i'm pretty sure everyone who said this is a prowolf game is a villager.
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07-07-2014 , 12:49 AM
I believe kruze is a villager
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