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i think he implies that wolves could have voted siu or sun after they noticed that sun was possibly peeked by siu

i dont think it happened, i dont recall siu ever being a solid wagon and sun's wagon had been dissolving for a while when siu dropped his hint

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07-24-2013 , 12:40 PM

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lol
i'm going to give minor villa points for the rant about changing title, which would be quite ballsy to make as a wolf

i definitely think that we should look at who peeked who and list who was a possible NK, regardless of the title thing

SIU should die early as a villa like always in this setup, I think we got really unlucky he randed seer cuz as a villa d1/d2 lifespan for SIU is nearly nothing, in my opinion.

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07-24-2013 , 12:41 PM

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the pm to you was about ptp game bro (which was over) at the time U were on holiday for weekends and I didn't know if u would go back to ptp or not, no biggie thou, I shouldn't have pm'd you during any game anyways.

I took it for what was going on in the GOT thread because it applied to that one as well at the time. I did tell them I didn't think it was a big deal so I'm glad they agreed with me on it. It was more of an FYI for future games because I saw Steph get killed for pming Luckduck in that Marvels game and that was for a bad reason imo.

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07-24-2013 , 12:45 PM

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I guess I can see that but seems unlikely even if a sun or siu wagon did pop up after it.

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07-24-2013 , 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by tmleafs1967

SIU should die early as a villa like always in this setup, I think we got really unlucky he randed seer cuz as a villa d1/d2 lifespan for SIU is nearly nothing, in my opinion.

maybe SIU being considered a strong player was a factor, but i tend to think the wolves' priority is killing the seer before killing a strong player
in the last game i played the seer was killed n1 too, and there was like 5 or 6 villagers who fake-peeked a wolf villager

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07-24-2013 , 12:50 PM

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fake peeks

tmleafs1967
bhuber2010
ihcjay
Sun Tzu
kokiri: luckduck
DividedSky
Kukraprout: kokiri
UAW710
luckduck53
Nicholasp27
tylertwo

feel free to add yours

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07-24-2013 , 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by luckduck53

Popping in for a second.

Jay if you think my vote was based off the UAW thing then you're sorely mistaken about thay and my grasp of this game.

Call it a tone thing that got progressively worse throughout the day. I also thought Ship was on to stuff with you.

I find it completely reasonable to say that you as a wolf could be concerned about someone with a pretty cleae identity coming hard at you.

Him being killed could be just as much because of being clear and where he was at in game solving ideas as it was a seer hunt thing.

I realize this thought process points at me too because ship clearly wasn't a fan of me either but I know I'm villa. You I think it's less likely.

Tone reads are just a BS reason for people to call others wolfy imo. It seems you are starting with a wolf read and doing everything you can to fit what I'm doing into that read. I also did that my first time wolfing. I would never kill SIU there just because he was coming at me and I was ready to lol at him for calling me trolly with his last post.

Trolly is exactly how I am as a villager when people are pushing me for stupid things. Remember my mq of OD in marvels?

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07-24-2013 , 12:52 PM

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I didn't leave one.

I knew kokiri left one on me.

I almost asked how he could tone read me at open when we've never played together but stopped myself because I thought "what if that's a peek? I don't want to out the seer"

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07-24-2013 , 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Kukraprout

I'm totally bad luck, the ****ing seer always dies early when I play in 13ers.

If Siu was being that sneaky I would have to believe it's a strong experienced player that saw what happened there because it flew way over my head.

It also had to be someone who knows peeks are being left that way.

Sun who would you put in that pile in this game player list?

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07-24-2013 , 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Kukraprout

fake peeks

tmleafs1967
bhuber2010
ihcjay
Sun Tzu
kokiri: luckduck
DividedSky
Kukraprout: kokiri
UAW710
luckduck53
Nicholasp27
tylertwo

feel free to add yours

I don't tend to make fake peeks. I had implied I was seer when referring to my wolf lean on bhuber but nothing beyond that.

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07-24-2013 , 12:54 PM

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These two posts seem quite pointless to me. I'm not even sure what you are getting at with the second post tbh.

If a wolf sees a good seer candidate then they'd rather lynch them or the peek than have to nk them so if someone pushed for either siu or sun after his peek post then they get wolf points

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07-24-2013 , 12:54 PM

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Call it instinct or intuition then if you don't like the word tone.

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07-24-2013 , 12:55 PM

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Call it instinct or intuition then if you don't like the word tone.

That's not to say I can't change my mind on you today.

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07-24-2013 , 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by tmleafs1967

I def agree with this. There are some experienced wolves in this game. I know bhuber leaves his peeks like this but don't know of anyone else. I don't even look at the titles either since half the time I phone post and the other half I'm too concerned with what's being said in the post to think to look for them.

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07-24-2013 , 12:58 PM

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If a wolf sees a good seer candidate then they'd rather lynch them or the peek than have to nk them so if someone pushed for either siu or sun after his peek post then they get wolf points

I don't totally buy this but I don't think I've ever been in a game where the seer was lynched.

If anything I think it'd be the opposite since if they have an idea of who the seer is they don't want him to claim since it may be harder to find the peeks and therefore it'd be better to nk him.

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07-24-2013 , 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Kukraprout

fake peeks

tmleafs1967
bhuber2010
ihcjay
Sun Tzu
kokiri: luckduck
DividedSky
Kukraprout: kokiri
UAW710
luckduck53
Nicholasp27
tylertwo

feel free to add yours

pickles

I didn't leave one because I wasn't totally sure how. I was going to leave you, because you were the only person that I had a strong villa lead on, but then I thought that maybe that was not how you do it. Hey, it's my fifth game! Next game, I'm vowing to leave one...

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07-24-2013 , 12:58 PM

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By the way all this talk about how the way the peek was left and how there's "no way" you guys would have seen it....

It looks bad for you guys imo.

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07-24-2013 , 12:59 PM

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I had Kukra peeking Kokiri villa so usually they'd get Wolfe points for not getting nked, but seer made super obvious title change so assuming they saw it they were killing him every time so u can't really give Kukra and Kokiri wolf points like usual

Seer should never make such an obvious peek leave because we not only get dead seer but don't get info from who they didn't kill

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07-24-2013 , 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by luckduck53

That's not to say I can't change my mind on you today.

It doesn't seem like you want to though.

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07-24-2013 , 01:00 PM

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bhuber2010--another player strong enough to see a title peek

DividedSky--if divided is who I think he is (and he should be) he is also a leading candidate for seeing that peek

Kukraprout--def strong enough

UAW710-def strong enough to see what Siu did there, Plus if he's a wolf divided is also a wolf (kuka, what's your math on that?)

Nicholasp27--apparently good but hasn't played in a while so I'd be skeptical if he saw that peek.

the rest I would put in my group as prob the first time seeig a title peek so I didn't include anyone else.

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07-24-2013 , 01:01 PM

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I should add that I didn't leave a peek becasue in my last two games as seer I left none d1 first time and 1 very vague one d1 second game followed by more definitive stuff d2.

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07-24-2013 , 01:01 PM

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Imagine siu wasn't seer, just faking

By killing him last night they clear sun

They'd rather pressure him to see if he claims

OR just kill the peek

Seer locks up game with 3-4 live peeks so lynching peeks is very helpful

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07-24-2013 , 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by luckduck53

By the way all this talk about how the way the peek was left and how there's "no way" you guys would have seen it....

It looks bad for you guys imo.

Luck, I get that you're a duck and all, but I would think ****ing a chicken like this would still be frowned upon in the barnyard community.

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07-24-2013 , 01:01 PM

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It doesn't seem like you want to though.

I don't think I'm wrong but I never want to mislynch someone.

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07-24-2013 , 01:02 PM

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Huber never left seer cover this game yet unless I totally missed it, not wolfy but strange as he usually does leave cover every game.

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